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Happy New Year! May 2013 bring you an abundance of figs!

I am seeking fig trees from Israel. Does anyone have any? If so, send me a PM.

thanks!

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I think Durio sells a few
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Thanks. I already checked and the Shar Israel he has listed will never be available. I visited Dalton's nursery twice in the past 2 years. His web site is not up to date and hardy ever is. He won't have any fig available till February. I drive down again next year and pickup a few others though. Thanks!
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you find some let me know i would like to get some as well but am unsure where to get from.
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Off the top of my head:

Nazarti (may need caprification?)
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Schar Israel.

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An old Belleclare nursery fig BC.96 listing (sp?)

#96 Shar Israel-A large semi-pear shape fig, dark purple/brown to purple/black w/ hollow red center.
Cuttings came from Haifa, Israel by way of a NAFEX member.


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http://figs4fun.com/Links/FigLink006f.pdf

seems to list lot of figs. not sure if any of them are available anywhere.
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I have an unknown I believe may be Khurtmani. It's basically a rain-resistant Brunswick.
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http://s1008.beta.photobucket.com/user/Vito12831/media/Pictures%20of%20figs/DSC00878.jpg.html

picture of Schar Israel
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Thanks for bringing this up Dennis. I was looking for additional info on Schar Isreal. 

If you happen to find a source for a few Isreali variants, please let me know. I would also be interested.
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Thanks guys. I think some members have some Israel fig tree. One reason I am seeking some is I met a lady at the farmers market. She told me to compare USA figs to Israel figs. She said, they are awesome. So, I'm trying to find some.
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Dennis,i do have a white fig(cuttings) from the small city of Kedma,near Netanya,Israel.Looks like a "medium yellow fig,red flesh,good testing"...I do have 6 cuttings,i can send you 2 of them.If interested,send me a pm. Happy Holidays !!   Marius
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thanks Marius, you have mail!
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Dennis, if you are here you can have a Shah Israel tree. Try Jon or Richard Watts. I know
they have this variant.
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thank you very much for the response guys! A friend sent me a PM and cuttings will be sent. Many thanks!!!

Thanks Paully! I will touch base with Mr Watts this weekend.
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I grow some Palestinian/Israeli figs. I spoke with commercial fig growers from Israel, and mentioned that the commercial type they grow is Black Brazil, Brown Turkey, Black mission, Bursa, Green Nazarati, but the ones that are known to be native and perhaps the best ones is Khurtmani and Sbayi. I was given a cutting from an American grower who obtained a it from a 100 years old  khurtmani tree growing in Bethlehem, Palestine. I'm still experimenting with them. I'm looking forward to these figs. 
Fig trees originated in that region, the heirloom varieties of Syria, Lebanon, Israel, and Jordan should be among the best in the fig world.
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Nice bass,

We look foward to your report. Good luck

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I've just recently received cuttings of what is called Israeli Red. Don't know anything about it, but if I am able to root it, I'll be happy to share with you Dennis. 
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Just wondering if the lady at the Farmer's market grew figs from Israel.  If so, maybe you can get cuttings from her?  Also, your climate may be much different than that of Israel, and climates definitely influence the taste of figs!

Good luck, and let us know what you come up with!

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Reports are starting to appear in the scientific literature about the genetic relatedness of common cultivars from many countries. Hopefully, a common typing method will emerge that allows comparison of cultivars from around the world.

I am attaching three publications looking at different cultivars with some overlap. Palestinian cultivars examined are: Biadi, Dafori, Eswadi, Ghzali, Hmadi, Kbari, Khdari, Mwazi, Ruzzi, Sfari, Shhami, Smari and Swadi. Jordanian figs examined in one publication are: Ajlouni, Byadi, Khartamani, Khdari, Mwazi and Zraki. In another publication on Jordanian figs, the cultivars examined are: Ajlounee, Byadee, Hmaree, Kdaree, Kortomanee, Mwazee and Zrakee. This last publication is pretty clearly using a different spelling for figs found in the other 2 publications.

I am interested to hear how these cultivars, which appear to be common commercial cultivars, mesh with Bass's knowledge.

 
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Posted Reply with quote  #20 

Good to know Bass.

Suzi, this lady told me should did not have the room to grow them at her place.  She comes to the market a lot like me.  She's a nurse at my doctor's office.  She's Israeli.  She said, Israeli people love their figs!  I believe her.

DWD2, thanks for the input!  Perfect timing with the names.  I got Byadi and Hmari.  I'm just curious about others you just don't hear too much about on the forum plus this lady spiked my interest.  I'll add the names of these figs to my database.  If I make a trip over there, you can bet I will have fig cuttings in my bags somewhere!
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Dennis, I recall that Bass is a big fan of Byadi. What is your opinion of it and your Hmari? Thanks!
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Well, my tree is barely 2 feet tall but it grew a lot last year. I got 2 medium size green figs, dark red center, excellent flavor. I think this is going to be an excellent fig.
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Dennis,  any thoughts/reports/tips on growing Byadi in the humid South? [My employers are Lebanese and I've been looking for a Levant-area fig to grow for them for future gifting. Bass's Red Lebanese keeps eluding me, but I requested Byadi from Jon.]
Thanks!
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It grows fine in our climate. I don't winterize my tree. I should but if we have a hot and early Spring, it will produce a huge crop.

IMHO, I think its the same as Marseilles White. Both ripen the exact same time, leaf patterns are the same and they taste the same. Both are very sweet and taste like rich honey. With all that same, it's an excellent fig. Makes a nice honey flavored jam when canned alone.
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Thanks, Dennis. 
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Swadi! Why must you tempt me so dearly but elude me completely?
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Dennis, if you have room for another tree, you should plant an Anna Apple.  It was bred in Israel for their climate and loves heat!  There was one on this property when we purchased it, and we warily tasted one.  Oh my gosh!  It was the BEST apple either of us has ever had.  Ripens here in June/July.  It's very crisp and sweet with a nice apple tang.  Makes great pies!!  We just planted another tree, so now we have two Annas!

Sorry to go off topic.

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Suzi,
I agree, the Anna is awesome. I tried my first at Jon's a few years ago and was hooked. That was the first fruit tree I purchased when I bought my home. I'm going to build a strong cage around it this year. Some critter always eats them when they get the size of a half-dollar so I've yet to eat one in 4 years. My tree has blossomed and is setting a ton of fruit this year.
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Sue, they aren't even ripe half dollar size!  What could be eating them?  YIKES!  Ours is next to the chain link fence, so maybe that protects it from some critters.

We pick ours when they have a blush of pink, and we go down every day to check.  They keep well in the fridge.  I just make a ton of pie filling, and line pie tins with seran.  Freeze the filling in the pie tin, and then just make crust and pop those frozen fillings already pie shape in there.

I really hope you get to taste yours this year.  There is not a better apple!!

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Posted Reply with quote  #30 
Dennis,i do have a black fig from the city of Beit Shemesh(Mahseia)-Golan garden.
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israeli fig would be nice. one of my best friend is a jewish. other one is only known as "american". his family goes as far back as civil war and beyond, they never really determinded where they originated from. i gave him a Israeli Red, but he kill it. doesn't have any green thumb on him... then again, i killed all mine too.
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sent you pm dennis
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Suzi & Sue, over the past few days. I've been thinking about an Anna apple tree. I do have a place for it but contemplating growing it in a huge container on my 30 acres. But I want that dude inches from my the house. Hmmmmm. I've already got rid of my Kumquats and Pineapples. I need to think about it some more.

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