Sultani Fig = Fayumi Fig?

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Steven_tang17

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Posted 1462329624	Reply with quote #1

Is it Fayumi Fig Egypt also called as Sultani Fig? Anyone know about this?

figpig_66

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Posted 1462335147	Reply with quote #2

I found this. Your right Attached Images 2016-05-03_23.07.48.png (201.36 KB, 80 views) __________________ RICHIE BONI HICKORY LOUISIANA ZONE 8B WARM HUMID WINRERS ARE VERY MILD LOW 20'S BUT WARMS RIGHT UP DURING THE DAY. SUMMER IS EXTREMELY HOT & HUMID 100 degrees 100% humidity fig tree grow like crazy but some split from rain & humidity Wish list. Col de dame blanc Col de rimada Lsu numbered figs

Steven_tang17

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Posted 1462343171	Reply with quote #3

Thanks guy.

Steven_tang17

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Posted 1462345317	Reply with quote #4

Any know about German have any variety of fig? Because my friend will go to german at July, I would like to request him to buy some cutting fig back to Malaysia. (^^).

Steven_tang17

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Posted 1462365810	Reply with quote #5

Anyone have fayumi fig leaf photo? I need to review the leaf.

figpig_66

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Posted 1462369561	Reply with quote #6

There is sultani photos. Search this site. __________________ RICHIE BONI HICKORY LOUISIANA ZONE 8B WARM HUMID WINRERS ARE VERY MILD LOW 20'S BUT WARMS RIGHT UP DURING THE DAY. SUMMER IS EXTREMELY HOT & HUMID 100 degrees 100% humidity fig tree grow like crazy but some split from rain & humidity Wish list. Col de dame blanc Col de rimada Lsu numbered figs

binbin9

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Posted 1462381970	Reply with quote #7

a quick search in this forum will bring this up Egyptian sultani is as below: Condit Sultani (syns. Fayoumi, Ramadi, Barshoumi, Sidi Gaber, Hejazi). Described and figured by Badie and Ghamrawi (1931) as the most common and widely distributed variety of Egypt. The following all proved to be identical in the variety plot at Riverside: P.I. No. 80,299, introduced into California in 1929 from Palestine as Sultane; No. 81,678, from the Tarring Fig Garden, England, in 1929 as Madagascar; and No. 80,152, from Ariana, Tunisia, in 1929 as Bidh-el-Atrous. The fruits show characters very similar to those described for the Sultani of Egypt. Therefore, all of the above will be treated here as one and the same variety. Bidh-el-Atrous is treated by Guillochon (1913, 1927, 1929) as a small, violet fig, with green ribs. Madagascar is briefly described by Spence (1846) as a small, globular, green sort, with narrowly lobed leaves, found in a West Tarring orchard. J. L. (1890) stated that the name Madagascar, “evidently a misnomer,” was attached to a very large fig, frequently met with at Lansing, England. Trees in Egypt and in California are vigorous, producing two crops. Leaves large, commonly nonlobed. The following description is from fruits produced at Riverside since 1940, in comparison with the account by Badie and Ghamrawi. Breba crop fair; figs above medium, pyriform; ribs prominent; eye large, scales pink; color green, flushed with chocolate brown; pulp coarse, strawberry in color; quality poor. Sultane: Condit "Sultane (syn. Grosse de Juillet). Described by Duchartre (1857), Du Breuil (1876), Mazières (1920), Bois (1928), and Simonet et al. (1945); the last with illustration of both first- and second-crop figs. Simonet and Chopinet (1947) described and illustrated this variety as Noire de Juillet. The following account is after that of Simonet et al. (1945) from fruits produced at Sollies-Pont, in southern France. Tree very productive. Brebas medium to large, pyriform to turbinate, with short neck; average weight 85 grams; stalk up to 1/2 inch long; ribs prominent; eye small, closed, sometimes slightly depressed, scales violet; skin firm, black on apex and body, shading to reddish brown toward the stalk; meat violet; pulp red; quality fair. Season late July. Second-crop figs medium, turbinate; average weight 57 grams; stalk 1/4 inch long; skin unusually firm, resistant to injury during transport; color black, with prominent, pruinose bloom; meat white; pulp dark red, of fine texture; quality good, Season September. SULTANE (synonymes : Noire de juillet, Bellone bifère) __________________ Renton, WA My Seattle Garden Blog \| Fig Addiction WISH LIST: Genovese Nero Rafeds \| UCR 187-25 \| Black Tuscan \| Black Triana \| Jack Lilly \| Barbillone \| St Rita \| Tauro \| Jin Ao Fen \| Lampeira Preto \| Any fig over 100grams =)

figpig_66

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Posted 1462384761	Reply with quote #8

I have a in ground tree. I will post some pics. __________________ RICHIE BONI HICKORY LOUISIANA ZONE 8B WARM HUMID WINRERS ARE VERY MILD LOW 20'S BUT WARMS RIGHT UP DURING THE DAY. SUMMER IS EXTREMELY HOT & HUMID 100 degrees 100% humidity fig tree grow like crazy but some split from rain & humidity Wish list. Col de dame blanc Col de rimada Lsu numbered figs

elin

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Posted 1462385257 · Edited	Reply with quote #9

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/show_single_post?pid=1288381323&postcount=11&forum=0 One of the most speciel trees a fig collector can grow. __________________ Eli ,Israel ,Zone 10? Too humid and hot, yada yada yada https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1298814119 Growing: Sbayi, Hmadi, Black Portugal, Black Brazil,Excell, Flanders, Hmari , RDB, Niagra Black,Natalina, CDDN,Maya, Preto Torres, Preto Arge

akrouus

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Posted 1462415869	Reply with quote #10

for those who recall Aaron started a thread on his sultani which was of Persian decent/origin. Bass, in the same thread informs Aaron that there is another sultani variation from syria. The sultani cited by richie, eli, and binbin is the fayoumi synonym, of egyptian origin/decent. however there may be two additional varieties, one from Aaron and one from Bass, which may not be the Egyptian fayoumi. Or are they? hmmmmm see thread the sultani fig __________________ Nick Southern California

Steven_tang17

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Posted 1462426818	Reply with quote #11

I just bought yesterday but unable to upload photo due to file more than 1mb.

Steven_tang17

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Posted 1462426879	Reply with quote #12

Quote: Originally Posted by figpig_66 There is sultani photos. Search this site. which website?

Steven_tang17

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Posted 1462427115	Reply with quote #13

I will try upload by tonight because my leaf is difference compare to this http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/show_single_post?pid=1288381323&postcount=11&forum=0. Thanks you for you all sharing.

Steven_tang17

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Posted 1462433888	Reply with quote #14

This is just bought yesterday, but not sure is real Fayumi or not!!!

Steven_tang17

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Posted 1462433988	Reply with quote #15

(^^)

Speedmaster

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Posted 1462448151	Reply with quote #16

Here are pictures of mine. The real deal from Egypt. Attached Images 20160222_094601-600x600.jpg (97.34 KB, 48 views) 20160222_094801-600x600.jpg (38.88 KB, 44 views) 20160222_094811-600x600.jpg (36.93 KB, 40 views) 20160222_094850-600x600.jpg (59.47 KB, 51 views) 20160222_095000-600x600.jpg (97.22 KB, 53 views) 20160304_122448-600x1067.jpg (254.70 KB, 49 views) __________________ Weather: Winter: 10C+ Summer: 42C+ Growing: Syrian Unk., Atreano, Egyptian Unk., Lebanese Unk., Col de dame Gris, Beall, Negronne, Ronde de bordeaux, Brogiotto Bianco Wish List: Panache.

Steven_tang17

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Posted 1462498640	Reply with quote #17

Quote: Originally Posted by Speedmaster Here are pictures of mine. The real deal from Egypt. The leaf are difference. Emm....need to wait it have fruits. Anyway thanks.

figpig_66

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Posted 1462498806	Reply with quote #18

The one i got from Aaron looks like robs. Going to get fruit this year so hope its like robs. ;-)) __________________ RICHIE BONI HICKORY LOUISIANA ZONE 8B WARM HUMID WINRERS ARE VERY MILD LOW 20'S BUT WARMS RIGHT UP DURING THE DAY. SUMMER IS EXTREMELY HOT & HUMID 100 degrees 100% humidity fig tree grow like crazy but some split from rain & humidity Wish list. Col de dame blanc Col de rimada Lsu numbered figs

Steven_tang17

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Posted 1462501701	Reply with quote #19

From my post leaf is it anyone will know is which variety of FIG? Seen it look difference from Fayumi Leaf. I search photo for sultane I found this leaf but not sure is real or not. Hope all expert here can help to find out ;) !!! this leaf look similar my leaf but I not sure real or not.

newbie

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Posted 1462523838	Reply with quote #20

Quote: Originally Posted by Speedmaster Here are pictures of mine. The real deal from Egypt. Wow... look very nice __________________ Wishlist: Everything that look delicious

electromie

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Posted 1462526738	Reply with quote #21

My Sultane fig leaf is similar as your posted picture. __________________ Wishlist: Galicia Negra, Sanguinato, Maltese Beauty, LSU Red, Genovese Nero

Steven_tang17

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Posted 1462527886	Reply with quote #22

Quote: Originally Posted by electromie My Sultane fig leaf is similar as your posted picture. Your leaf also same as mine? Also is Fayumi or Sultane?

elin

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Posted 1462533924 · Edited	Reply with quote #23

The sources i know are reliable and say that fayumi- sultani -cop- rmadi- are all the same. Sultane is different. The fayumi has Non lobed large leafs with gelatinous texturesd interior of fruit that ripens in the fall. Attached Images image.jpg (178.23 KB, 22 views) __________________ Eli ,Israel ,Zone 10? Too humid and hot, yada yada yada https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1298814119 Growing: Sbayi, Hmadi, Black Portugal, Black Brazil,Excell, Flanders, Hmari , RDB, Niagra Black,Natalina, CDDN,Maya, Preto Torres, Preto Arge

Speedmaster

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Posted 1462535249	Reply with quote #24

Quote: Originally Posted by elin The sources i know are reliable and say that fayumi- sultani -cop- rmadi- are all the same. Sultane is different. The fayumi has Non lobed large leafs with gelatinous texturesd interior of fruit that ripens in the fall. Those look just like mine. I have 3 lobed leaves too in mine. __________________ Weather: Winter: 10C+ Summer: 42C+ Growing: Syrian Unk., Atreano, Egyptian Unk., Lebanese Unk., Col de dame Gris, Beall, Negronne, Ronde de bordeaux, Brogiotto Bianco Wish List: Panache.

elin

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Posted 1462536613 · Edited	Reply with quote #25

Its funny Condit says that the quality of Sultani is poor but they are among the best of figs even better than Sbayi on some days. Condit is for commercial growers!!!!!!! __________________ Eli ,Israel ,Zone 10? Too humid and hot, yada yada yada https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1298814119 Growing: Sbayi, Hmadi, Black Portugal, Black Brazil,Excell, Flanders, Hmari , RDB, Niagra Black,Natalina, CDDN,Maya, Preto Torres, Preto Arge

Speedmaster

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Posted 1462553703	Reply with quote #26

Quote: Originally Posted by elin Its funny Condit says that the quality of Sultani is poor but they are among the best of figs even better than Sbayi on some days. Condit is for commercial growers!!!!!!! I think it is because it needs heat more than any other variety. Mine kept its figs green for about 4 months which is much more than other varieties in my area. __________________ Weather: Winter: 10C+ Summer: 42C+ Growing: Syrian Unk., Atreano, Egyptian Unk., Lebanese Unk., Col de dame Gris, Beall, Negronne, Ronde de bordeaux, Brogiotto Bianco Wish List: Panache.

sorata

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Posted 1463735350	Reply with quote #27

i'll show you my sultane fig leaves..which part of malaysia are you living? __________________ lurking around...

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