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Super rooter Scarlett unknown! Help me name this fig

This variety has rooted so well, better than my other varieties! The best part is that this unknown fig is one of the best figs I've tried so far! I call it the Scarlett Unknown, after my daughter! The flavor of this fig is unbelievable! It's a dark fig, with a dark red interior, and is medium in size, Def one of my top five! It's a winner all around, it's hard to start to get rooted, but once it roots it roots strong, the mother tree is absolutely loaded with figs! I successfully rooted 2 of about 10 cuttings. I can't wait for others to try it!

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I am game if you are....   :-)


    The name fits it...   you aught to keep it.  

  ...Maybe just a small tweak,  call it Miss Scarlet, Unk to endear it a little?

Count me in when you have cuttings available.

And a great name too!  No need for a new name.  

I would like to be on the list.
Vito

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I would like to be on the list.
Vito

No Problem! Are you the Vito that was at Bass's over the weekend?

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Count me in when you have cuttings available.

And a great name too!  No need for a new name.  

I should have them this year for sure! Extra ones anyway the mother tree is getting very large!

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    The name fits it...   you aught to keep it.  

  ...Maybe just a small tweak,  call it Miss Scarlet, Unk to endear it a little?

Cool happy you like the name, I guess it is kind of a nice name for a fig

Just having fun here -- how about Sweet Scarlett (I like the alliteration)?

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Do you have pictures of the mother tree and fruit?

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Do you have pictures of the mother tree and fruit?

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I'm in line Justin!

Yes ,that was the same vito.😁

Both Blue's Miss Scarlett Unk and Bethens' Sweet Scarlett Unk are great names for your tree. Bet your daughter is proud that you named it after her!

Looks like many hope you will have cuttings available to trade come dormant season. We all love a tasty Unknown!

Looks like Celeste to me.

I agree with Dennis. Looks a lot like a celeste. Unless it's a hybrid or truly a new discovery, Let's not add to the million of other names/synonyms already out there for existing fig. It's too exhausting to keep track of. =)

Hummmm, that is opposite of what I have seen in many posts about unknowns that "may" be a particular variety. Some people get very passionate that unknowns should not be renamed from what the discoverer /owner of the tree called them. Of course, it is up to Justin to do with his tree as he sees fit.

Nice Celeste.

Nice, i have a couple local unknowns to trade when your ready..

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I guess you can call me one of those passionate about keeping the naming of discovered figs in check. Its fine to call an known fig "xyz" unknown but if I or anyone finds a tree that is a clearly a celeste, or any other identifiable variety, I think it will muddle things to rename it and perpetuate further confusion.

To be honest even the "Olympian" discovered here is probably an existing variety related to others in the old world. The DNA testing is not fool proof because the the DNA of it can only be compared to what they have in their database. I'm sure they do not have a complete DB of existing figs to compare it to.

There should be steps taken to IDing figs before giving it a NEW name. It's quite possible Justin has discovered a new fig but the chances are quite low and in my eyes it looks like a celeste.

Care should be taken to compare unknowns to a known variety. Do the leaves look the same? Do the figs look the same? Do they ripen at the same time as an existing variety within your climate?

Now climate has a lot to do with how figs will grow and ripen, so someone in California who has the same fig as me may have different texture leaves or even slightly different fig color than someone like myself in Seattle.  

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Here are the reasons why I'm passionate about this subject. 

The brunswick has about over 20 synonyms associated to it. These are the names that have been associated with the fig throughout the decades.

IE: Brunswick = 1. Dalmation, 2. Dalmatia, 3. Clementine, 4. Vashon Violet, 5. Magnolia, 6. Black 7. Naples, 8. Black Triana, 9. Brunswig, 10. Castle Kennedy, 11. Broad White Turkey, 12. Madonna, 13. Khurtmani, 14. Bayswater, 15. Brown Hamburgh, 16. Clare, 17 De Saint Jean, 18. Hanover 19. Belle Dame, 20. Baidi 21. Belle Dame Blanche 22. Col Di Signon 23. Dor

Another example is Kadota
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I have a couple problems with this ongoing practice of "Naming Figs" without trying to at first verify it's ID.

1. Confusion:
Unless you've done your home work, navigating all the figs that are put on sale on forums and ebay can be daunting. Fights have broken out over naming conventions and friendships have been broken up over these matters. I've stayed away from the forums lately because every week there seems to be some sort of drama that breaks out that causes members to quite. It's quit sad really. Figs are fun and not suppose to be a source of stress.

2. Money
My biggest complaint is that it's misleading to new hobbyist and one can spend thousands of dollars to grow their collection only to realize that when they finally fruit, that they have 5 of the same plant. IE "This guy" Pointing my thumbs to my chest.

But in this case knowledge is power and so there are a few of those that know of the many names that take advantage of this and sell the same variety under different names to make more money.

I recall going to Portland nursery and bought 2 figs. Oregon Prolific and King Fig. The Oregon Prolific turned out to be Marseilles which I already had 3 plants of. The king fig I'm still trying to figure out.

I hope I'm not alone in this thinking. Just trying to lessen the confusion and save folks $$ by not buying multiples of the same fig.


Feel free to google "Celeste Fig"

and see how many of those photos resemble the one that Justin has.

Justin this is not an attack on you just speaking my mind about a topic I'm passionate about.


First off, this is just my opinion. I think it's okay to name figs.  To me, his fig look just like the 5 or 6 unknowns I have that turned out to be Celeste.  Most local nurseries will get cuttings from a neighbor's tree and just to sell that fig, they will put a tag on it that says, "Brown Turkey" or "Celeste".  I'm excited for Jsavkov.  But a good majority of fig trees out there that are unknowns, truly are Celeste.

Just go to your local Walmart right now.  You will see around 20 or 30 fig trees.  Most will look exactly alike by their left patterns but there will be different tags on them!  But only one or 2 will have a completely different leaf pattern.  Just about all will be Celeste.  Celeste is very easy to point out especially if you have a picture of the tree's fruit.  My friend Jon in LA has 9 or 10 different named figs for the exact same fig.  All are Celeste.  He sells them by the name the person whom gave him the cuttings.  But in his description, he does state the fig is a Celeste.  

Celeste isn't a bad fig.  It's an excellent tasting fig!  However, every once in a while, we get lucky and find a very rare fig.  I found a few and I'm lucky today to have them in my possession.  

How bout those figs!!!!!!

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I guess you can call me one of those passionate about keeping the naming of discovered figs in check. Its fine to call an known fig "xyz" unknown but if I or anyone finds a tree that is a clearly a celeste, or any other identifiable variety, I think it will muddle things to rename it and perpetuate further confusion.

To be honest even the "Olympian" discovered here is probably an existing variety related to others in the old world. The DNA testing is not fool proof because the the DNA of it can only be compared to what they have in their database. I'm sure they do not have a complete DB of existing figs to compare it to.

There should be steps taken to IDing figs before giving it a NEW name. It's quite possible Justin has discovered a new fig but the chances are quite low and in my eyes it looks like a celeste.

Care should be taken to compare unknowns to a known variety. Do the leaves look the same? Do the figs look the same? Do they ripen at the same time as an existing variety within your climate?

Now climate has a lot to do with how figs will grow and ripen, so someone in California who has the same fig as me may have different texture leaves or even slightly different fig color than someone like myself in Seattle.  

____

Here are the reasons why I'm passionate about this subject. 

The brunswick has about over 20 synonyms associated to it. These are the names that have been associated with the fig throughout the decades.

IE: Brunswick = 1. Dalmation, 2. Dalmatia, 3. Clementine, 4. Vashon Violet, 5. Magnolia, 6. Black 7. Naples, 8. Black Triana, 9. Brunswig, 10. Castle Kennedy, 11. Broad White Turkey, 12. Madonna, 13. Khurtmani, 14. Bayswater, 15. Brown Hamburgh, 16. Clare, 17 De Saint Jean, 18. Hanover 19. Belle Dame, 20. Baidi 21. Belle Dame Blanche 22. Col Di Signon 23. Dor

Another example is Kadota
[57_zps1fzmonih]

I have a couple problems with this ongoing practice of "Naming Figs" without trying to at first verify it's ID.

1. Confusion:
Unless you've done your home work, navigating all the figs that are put on sale on forums and ebay can be daunting. Fights have broken out over naming conventions and friendships have been broken up over these matters. I've stayed away from the forums lately because every week there seems to be some sort of drama that breaks out that causes members to quite. It's quit sad really. Figs are fun and not suppose to be a source of stress.

2. Money
My biggest complaint is that it's misleading to new hobbyist and one can spend thousands of dollars to grow their collection only to realize that when they finally fruit, that they have 5 of the same plant. IE "This guy" Pointing my thumbs to my chest.

But in this case knowledge is power and so there are a few of those that know of the many names that take advantage of this and sell the same variety under different names to make more money.

I recall going to Portland nursery and bought 2 figs. Oregon Prolific and King Fig. The Oregon Prolific turned out to be Marseilles which I already had 3 plants of. The king fig I'm still trying to figure out.

I hope I'm not alone in this thinking. Just trying to lessen the confusion and save folks $$ by not buying multiples of the same fig.


Feel free to google "Celeste Fig"

and see how many of those photos resemble the one that Justin has.

Justin this is not an attack on you just speaking my mind about a topic I'm passionate about.




Hey man no offense taken, it was from a old tree I got from my old Italian landlord where I used to rent my business building from, he had it for decades and had no name for it it was just a favorite fig of his, all I know is it's a strong berry tasting fig similar to my Angelos dark, a little sweeter though not necessarily better just sweeter, it's a great fig, and if it's a Celeste it's a Celeste, I have a Celeste from bills figs and it's different! Bottom line is it taste great, and that's really all I care about! So no problem on venting your opinion man it's all good!

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Here are a couple of early ripening Celeste figs that I picked yesterday.







To each his own. An opinion is just that, an opinion. You said it Justin, bottom line, what matters is, is it a good tasting fig.

How 'bout them figs Dennis and I'll take a plate of those Sas! 😋

Jsavkov, no offense.  I was just stating my opinion.  I apologize if my comment upset you.  That was not my intent.  Congrats on your find!

How bout those figs!!!!!!

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