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Suspected eBay scammers with F4F ties

Harvey, you have mail.

wow! I just got this from Korina-2009 on eBay....

Dear dee-jay-n-jackie,

"Harvey, you have mail. "
Agree that Harvey is a " paste tense" it is a new blood of fig growers.
Live with it, stop going to your "mummy" to wipe you behind every time.

- korina-2009

I know I shouldn't but I have to laugh. Nice public relations way of selling, must be the new blood way.

Well, all I can say is very careful folks. I don't know who Korina-2009 is but this person is emailing me on eBay about my posting here. They're mad I posted their replies to me on this forum Well, that's OK. I'm glad they're reading these post. All I asked is to see either fruit pics or mother tree pics and I got none.

I think it's time I call eBay and report this person. Again, buyers, please beware.

Dennis, get them on Facebook, twitter.  I am a lost soul today.  Pretty sick with this bronchitis thing.  They are there if they sell anything.
Suzi

Will do! Thanks Suzi!

Trust me, this person is reading every word written on this forum. and that's good! I just hope anyone wanting to buy cuttings from unknown sellers ask a lot of questions before buying from them. In the future, I will not sell cuttings or trees to this person on eBay or here.

From korina-2009-----

Dear dee-jay-n-jackie,

How fast you get polite, too bad I already sent all your comments here and on forum to eBay- let them see how you provoking me for nothing and spreading rumors about me.

"In the future, I will not sell cuttings or trees to this person on eBay or here. "

By the way, thank you, but I do not need more cuttings or fig trees- I have my suppliers, many of them from F4F. Why they are not joining your action of ignoring me ?



- korina-2009

Yikes.  Customer service at it finest.  I think a lot of guests come here to see what people are saying.  I read a bunch of posts and looked a tons of pictures before I ventured into the treacherous waters of fig buying.  I looked a long time growers who seemed helpful and knowledge and seemed to have a real passion for what they were doing.  Lots of great comments from other members helped too which is why I always try to leave a note here for people I've had good experiences with.  I think this year my collection will have grown to 70 plus varieties and I feel that most if not all came from people who tried their best to send accurately labelled and identified figs. 

Things are getting "interesting" but I'm hopeful of it all working out eventually, but will withhold details until such time.  In any event, taking some hits is worth it for the helping make the marketplace safer for those wishing to buy or sell fig cuttings.  I'm certainly not doing this for my own benefit.

Thanks for putting forth such effort to alert the fig enthusiastic community of these bad sellers on eBay. I buy and sell on ebay as plant-creator and surly do not want to receive any mis-labeled material.

Another ebay seller to look out for would be plant1onme. Bought bare root trees from seller and they ended up being something totally different than description. Tried to contact seller and no response. BE AWARE ! Thank you harveyc for your investigative work. I also take this kind of stuff seriously, we don't need more confusion with fig varieties. Shame on these crooks!

I got screwed by them too.

Thank you Harvey for the post. It's very frustrating buying from eBay especially as a newer fig collector when you're in that "I just gotta have every variety" mindset. We all go through it and sometimes it just never goes away.


Come ' on bud break!

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Originally Posted by brianm
I got screwed by them too.


Who?

plant1onme

Wow!  Lots of feedback with this seller.  They answer all of their negative feedback, too.  Was going through some of their
auctions and some of their pictures are hijacked from other websites.  Don't know if they're a nursery or what.  For the
amount of stuff they sell, they should be.

How did you get screwed, Brian?

Feedback isn't really a good measurement for fig verification.  Why?  Because it may take months to find out that the cuttings they sold isn't the real deal.  And you can't go back and change your feedback!  This becomes a problem for serious fig nurseries and collectors because they could sell trees from those fake cuttings poisoning the community.  I believe this is what has happened to the confusion between Brown Turkey and Texas Everbearing.

You're absolutely correct, Dennis.  eBay's feedback system is a good system of measurement for the seller, though.  It's a useful tool that helps paint the picture of what you hope will be a good transaction.  But it should not be used as a voucher for figs at all.  eBay is definitely a good tool for hobbyists and professionals.  What's the answer?

The answer is go with your gut feelings, if it sounds too good to be true it probably is. I buy and sell, and only buy from people that I see on here that have good reputations. I believe that anyone who sells cuttings on ebay should back them up with good customer service, if the cuttings fail and the buyers contact me I try to accomodate them as best I can, it's the right thing to do, and I would expect the same from those I buy cuttings from, in fact I have been sent new cuttings when the ones I bought failed. 

Scott - I have to agree and disagree with you.  

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Originally Posted by rookie
The answer is go with your gut feelings, if it sounds too good to be true it probably is. I buy and sell, and only buy from people that I see on here that have good reputations. I believe that anyone who sells cuttings on eBay should back them up with good customer service,


Absolutely!  If everyone followed these rules this thread would not be 4 pages long.

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Originally Posted by rookie
if the cuttings fail and the buyers contact me I try to accomodate them as best I can, it's the right thing to do, and I would expect the same from those I buy cuttings from, in fact I have been sent new cuttings when the ones I bought failed.


Can't completely agree with this and believe it's part of the problem.  Here's my feelings; When you agree to buy cuttings from someone, be it on eBay, from someone on this forum, a nursery, etc, you are buying a product, not a contract.  When cuttings fail, we all know that most of the time it is the fault of the grower.  How can the seller be on the hook for that?  If, on the other hand, a buyer receives cuttings that are of poor quality, dead, etc, then sellers should definitely be held accountable.

On the flip side, if a seller chooses to guarantee rooting or to back up his/her cuttings at a later date, that is completely up to that particular seller and should not be the norm.  Most of us are hobbyists and do not make a profit selling cuttings or extra plants.  Growing figs is a very expensive proposition and we only hope to make enough money to cover the cost of a little soil or perlite.

I purchased an expensive variety back in Oct or Nov of 2014.  I posted about its demise on this forum recently.  Without any prompting, the seller was kind enough to reach out to me and asked if I wanted cuttings, a replacement, etc.  I refused because it was not his fault.

Of course none of this has anything to do with the scammers at large.  Very upsetting :(

Hi

I think I agree with both of you to a degree.
The scammers are dirt no matter what their reasons.  There is always an honest way to do something and they have not picked that path.

I think many of the sellers here would help out if someone lost their cuttings because they are good people with a real interest in seeing people succeed at this hobby.  I think in the long run it is good for business.  Who would you be more likely to go back to for your next cutting?
That being said I don't think everyone replaces cuttings and certainly it is not implied in any sale unless they use something will grow or your money back.  It wouldn't stop me from buying a cutting if I really wanted it.

If the cuttings arrive in poor shape then I think that the seller should replace them unless there are other circumstances.  Like your spouse put them in the freezer to keep them fresh.

I feel that so many of the sellers do go way above what is expected.

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Originally Posted by brianm
plant1onme


Sent them an email regarding their CDDG for sale.  No response.  Feel bad for the person that won it.

Yea i already fell for the cddg recently. The cutting only had two nodes with one cut through so its a goner. No response either.

Please keep this thread on track by discussing the group of scammers that are working together (see post #1) as it's already confusing enough to follow. plant1onme has nothing to do with this group of sellers and there are no apparent ties to F4F. Thanks

There's a thread, Looking for figs cuttings wholesale price!! It's got a lot of views but no replies (unless as PM). I suspect that this thread is the reason no one is replying. I was wondering if Sofia had been mentioned in this thread but don't have the patience to wade through four pages of comments. I would like to see a simple list of problem sellers that would be easy to refer to if a question comes up. I don't have cuttings to sell so it's just idle curiosity at this point. I do, sometimes, buy cuttings and it would be nice to have a quick reference when something I want comes around.

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