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The other Bordeaux

First Rouge de Bordeaux of the season today, I enjoyed hope you do to.

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When I first heard of this cultivar I thought people were just miss spelling Ron lol. How does it compare to Ron de Bordeaux? Also is it just as cold hardy? I'm trying to build a cold hardy collection and don't know anything about this particular cultivar

Hi Nick,
I'm not sure how cold hardy it is. I would imagine it to be in the same ballpark as Ronde.
In the UK it is recommended as a greenhouse fig not because of its lack of hardiness but because of insufficient summer heat to ripen outside. For me Rouge ripens about 3 weeks after Ronde main crop so if you can ripen Ronde and still have a month of summer left you should be okay.
You could definitely grow it in a greenhouse as I do.
Tastewise it is similar to Ronde but it is a larger fig.
It is a maincrop only fig.

Hi,
Rouge de bordeaux is the other name of Pastiliere.
Happy for you that you get figs out of it.
Mine dropped all figs for the third year...
I may try to move her to a sunnier spot as a last chance, or I may toss her before that. I need to check if something wrong is happening in the rootball .
Rouge de bordeaux is in the class of suitable figtrees for container culture.
I'm wondering if it needs the wasp ...

Hi jdsfrance
It doesn't need the wasp, but yes for me as well it is prone to drop figs, however the ones it holds on to are good.
I have a second year plant, which was a cutting from my original Rouge and this is also ripening a few figs now, so it fruits early pot grown.
Yours should benefit from a sunnier spot so probably worth another chance.



I absolutely love this fig.
I usually give a fig at least 5 years to prove itself or end up on the burn pile. 2 years to grow (at least) then 5 years to produce fruit.
This one dropped every fig for a couple years then started to produce wonderful bluish fuzzy figs of very high quality.
Once it stopped dropping figs it stopped dropping figs. I have not seen a single dropped fig under this tree in at least 2 years.
As I sold all my starts of this one very quickly, I'll have to take cuttings as I am certainly going to add another one to my orchard.
A great producer and a very attractive fig.
Ronde de Bordeaux
Rouge de Bordeaux
Violette de Bordeaux
All three are worth keeping.

Hi Michael
I have Ronde as well and agree that the Bordeaux family are definite keepers.
Rouge roots from cuttings easily in my experience, I took two from my mother plant two years ago and both the young plants will ripen some fruit this year.
All three of my Rouge trees are pot grown and I suspect that the reason for the mother plant dropping fruit this year was more down to cultural stress than anything. The greenhouse can get very hot at times. I will have to provide more shading next year. To extend the fruiting season I will grow my two younger Rouge trees on the patio next year and just bring them in to the greenhouse to finish off if necessary.


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Hi Elruge. Where did you get the Rouge de bordeaux from in the UK? I am based in the UK and bought a plant named Rouge de bordeaux but it seems the same as a ronde de bordeaux. I think some sellers are mixing the names up so I am looking for a reliable source. Also could I have a picture of the leaves of your plant please?

Mix-ups happen all the time in the Bordeaux family.

Rouge de Bordeaux is also known as Pastilière and is main crop only. pastiliere.jpg 

Ronde de Bordeaux has no other names to my knowledge and is also main crop only and very early:

rondedebordeaux.jpg 

Negronne is the third Bordeaux fig and is also known as Figue de Bordeaux and bears fruit twice:

negronne.jpg 


Hi Stormy,
Ronde de Bordeaux was definitely not maincrop only for me. It was my earliest breba. I picked it's first breba May 18, its last breba at the beginning of July and it's first main July 27. I don't know if this atypical of the variety but I am confident that I have a genuine Ronde.

Hi Denditz,
I got my Rouge de Bordeaux from Deacons Nursery Isle of Wight. They still have it listed.
RV Roger of Pickering have a good fig collection. I got my Col de dame blanc from them last year.
I will post the leaf pictures of my Rouge later, as I'm off out now.

Thank you Stormy and Elruge for the helpful replies.

Here are the leaf pictures, the first two are Rouge the third is Ronde for comparison.
I found both Deacons and Rogers very helpful over the phone when I had some questions about my orders. Both deliver bare rooted.
I would advise ordering early especially with Rogers if you want to be sure of a particular variety and size. I got my Col de dame blanc, but a younger plant than I ideally wanted as the three year old plants had all gone. However the two year old was cheaper and it's carrying three figs so I'm happy.

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Thank you for posting the pictures. It confirms that what I thought, that the rouge de bordeaux I have is in fact a ronde de bordeaux. This kind of thing has happened so many times, so frustrating. Ah well, I guess one of the things that come with fig buying.

Good pics stormy

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Good pics stormy

I snapped them off the site of Pierre Baud, a French fig pro.

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