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Wanting Blackberries

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I was astounded at the requested cost of the Nettleton Creamy that I got.

 



I can save some seed of both for you in you'd like some?

**edit** sorry didn't see you already have some plants coming.
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I know that I am replying to this thread 6 yrs later, but I'm so interested in all your comments in regards to blackberries. Presently I have Navaho. In which I have planted in the RGGS kiddie pool, it does fantastic, love the sweetness too. I tried to grow Ebony, [Jacyln, Jewel, Ann, and Brandywine-raspberries] in the ground. All did poorly and I ripped em out. Now I have a Black Satin in the pool this year. But reading that they are tart to bitter.
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I was thinking of the Arapahoe or Prime as sweet.. with all the varieties posted here.. I'm lost.
I would prefer thornless, and sweet. Those are most most important factors. If upright great. If disease resistant, greater..
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please help advise.

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Plus curious, texascuckadoos. . Did you accomplish your plan?
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Plus those white, like "snowbank. Does anyone like that?
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Knowing where you are and something about your soil would enable better responses.  Triple Crown has been a great berry for me in OR and MO.  I have some prime ark travelers for sale.  This is my first year growing them.
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Cathy - I am in DFW area and grow Natchez, Kiowa, Triple Crown, and Navajo.  Natchez is in Texas Super Star list and it is super productive and healthy.  Kiowa has the most vigor and produces a lot - I mean a lot.  I have them in ground on a trellis.  I think putting in a large pot is feasible but I didn't try that.   Ison's Nursery in GA has good reputation and I think they have many varieties.  

I must say - if thorns do not bother you - get Kiowa for sure.  And you must get Natchez.  It's so productive  - I am very happy.  
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Natchez is an early Blackberry that in E. TN has been producing for two weeks now......very large and juicy but not very sweet.
Navaho and Triple crown are the star performers, not as large as a Natchez they both have a much better flavor and sweetness. When perfectly ripe they resemble a blackberry syrup. Prime Ark is a productive plant but stickers will eat you up. It is a Primo cane (1st year) bearer where the others are flora cane (2nd year) producer.
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Hello everyone, I'm in zone 7b long island. I prefer the sweeter tasting blackberry to having a large crop. I've read your posts which seem divided on the Triple crown varietal. Anyone here growing the Silvan, Krakauer or Snow?bound varietals? It looks like I might just look into Arapaho..
.. but yes, only in a containertia situation as I use the RGGS system.

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Prime Ark Freedom and Traveler are thornless.
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My Prime Ark are the "45's" great berries but VERY thorny. Berries are very good but the plant is only one year old and already will produce 50-100 berries this year. I also purchased a Prime Ark Traveller that is still in a pot but really showing vigorous growth. 

Next year I will pick and freeze the Natchez berries and make a cobbler as they should be great with the added sugar. I will also plant another one as they are productive and huge!

The Triple Crown and Navajo are spreading into each other with new ones popping up, guess I will have to dig them up this fall along with many Raspberries spreading out of the patch!


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This mornings harvest, Top left is Natchez, middle is Pink Lemonade blueberries, top right Prime Ark 45 and bottom is various Raspberries.  
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Go to backyardgrowers.com
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Great looking fruit JMRTSUS.
My berry bushes are full of fruit but not ripe yet.

BlueAngelDiver where are you on LI? I have Arapaho blackberry piece I can spare.
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It's been several years since I started this thread.  The report on my blackberries is that they are alive but don't thrive.  Not sure if it's our soil or them being in large pots.  They look like beginner, first year plants and the berries (if produced) are about the size of a dime.

I'm in the Texas hill country that is mostly limestone with only a few inches of topsoil.  Any recommendations for a good variety that does not require me to amend the soil each year with an acidifier?
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Originally Posted by texascockatoos
It's been several years since I started this thread.  The report on my blackberries is that they are alive but don't thrive.  Not sure if it's our soil or them being in large pots.  They look like beginner, first year plants and the berries (if produced) are about the size of a dime.

I'm in the Texas hill country that is mostly limestone with only a few inches of topsoil.  Any recommendations for a good variety that does not require me to amend the soil each year with an acidifier?[/QUOte 

i just read where black berries like a 6-6.5 ph and i would get those berries in ground if you could ,they would do a lot better ,my tripple crown berries are huge berries probably 1.5"x" 1.5" +. if you don't have a ph tester go to amazon and get one, they are not expensive ,and i have used them for years with great success ~if you have access to pine needles mulch with them ,or make a tea out of all spent coffee grounds and water them with that weekly ,or aluminum sulphate,or sulfur will lower ph also


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I'm in the city with limited ground space so I have mine in raised bed that's on cement patio for 80% with small edge on driveway. It keeps them from running wild and manageable for me.
I lined the bottom with mesh and Better than Rocks so I wouldn't lose so much soil to erosion. I used Dr Earth Acid lover soil as base with added peat, pine bark, perlite, compost and turface. The first year I think the soil ph is important for roots to establish but once they do get used to local conditions they adjust. I've gotten huge sweet berries from my Arapahos for years and have only added some small top dress of either compost or berry fertilizer and mulched with pine bark or pine straw (stripped needles from decorative pine bough rope after christmas).
Hope this helps.
(First wave of picking along with raspberries last year)
first wave blackberry rasp mix 2016.jpg 

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I'm guessing you spray those black berries with pesticide to get them to look that good. If I wait until the berries are at their peak ripeness it's already too late! Bug city!
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I've never sprayed any of my berries. Allergies, I cant even take the smell of neem.
If critters, birds or bugs get to something, its theirs.
I have had an ant and bird problem in past so I only got 2 baskets when the bushes were loaded to the max last year, should have been more but the smell of sugar in fruit had them lined up for the buffet.
But this year other than putting ant stations on the side of yard and partial cover crop netting over top, its been organic(or in my case lazy?) way to grow.  
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