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I bought a small green ischia from Petals from the Past last spring and got a few delicious figs to ripen. From reading the forum posts it seems like JH Adriatic, Green Greek, Battaglia green, Verte, Paradiso and a few others are the top tier figs in this category and I would like to get the very best for a North Carolina climate. What do you recommend?
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Vasilika Sika,Izbat an Naj and Hollier.
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I had never heard of that Izbat an Naj but I looked up some posts about it and it looks amazing! Is it very late ripening for you usually? What is its cold hardiness like? Ideally I would like to grow varieties that do not need winter protection in my climate. Thanks for the information.
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I'm in Ohio,zone 6b,is doing well for me,in ground(protected in winter),or in a 25 gal pot,a very sweet fig.
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Is there a good source for that Izbat you can recommend? I am very interested by the " pineapple banana" description.
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for this year my  peloponnisiaka aspra and my tseligato

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Andreas, those figs look exactly like what my mind was picturing except maybe more so. I am going to have to start stalking ebay.
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Brian i did list some for the first time last week and i will probably list some this week
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I see that you are in Greece. Have you shipped them without issue to the U.S. before? I need to research some local laws.
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@ Brian
i think its best you do some research...
i have some info that could help but you have your messages turned off

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peloponnisiaka aspra:
It is absolutely Identical to Vasilika Syka,I have from Greek Gardener in Mount Laurel New Jersey.
It does need a totally sunny spot in order to ripe all fruits here in NJ, otherwise a very cold hardy fig cultivar,that spent last harsh Winter,(2014)in ground ,without protection.
Otherwise to answer the topic question,:
The best cultivar here,when we consider,the taste flavor and ability to ripe fruits in difficult climate,
Adriatic JH shines, every time!
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@ Herman2
i have Vasilika Syka as well as peloponnisiaka aspra here in greece and it is not the same fig
but if you have one you are very lucky. i hope you enjoy it.

@ Brian
you just gave me the extra push i needed to re list the cuttings
they just went up with vasilika mavra and skoura vavatsika

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Even when north-central Ohio weather doesn't let Green Ischia ripen properly, I still get good, sweet figs from her.
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You are free to have your own opinion, and I am free to have mine.
I grow similar figs side to side in order to eliminate multiple names ,that makes the new gardeners so confused.
And all my trees are in ground in the open, naturally grown without artificial fertilizer.
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@ Herman2  this is your fig

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and this is my fig.
i dont think you are right.
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yours is a small fig with long neck my fig is larger and rounder with short neck.
so it is safe to say you do not have peloponisiaka aspra sika or i do not have vasilika sika misnamed as peloponisiaka aspra sika.
i hope this cleared things up for you.


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I have turned on my messages. I didnt realize they were off until now.

@mussilid yes I do like my green ischia very much. Mine is still very young and I would like to have a couple of similar varieties to compare and enjoy. I will definitely grow JH Adriatic next year and I think I will have to look into these Greek figs as well.

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Adriatic JH one tree is not enough absolutely delicious! 

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I agree w Dave. I have 4 Adriatic JH babies right now. Someone should mention Col de Dame Blanc as well here. It meets the criteria you mention, and is an outstanding fig.
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Andreas thanks for posting the pictures. Its pretty convincing that your fig is indeed different from Vasilika Sika

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Andreas,
If you can post a photo of the Vasilika Syka leaves that would help.
Thanks

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I put in a vote for Panache. My climate isn't similar to North Caroline, but the tree does very well here in the desert. It is the most vigorous and productive tree I have, either light or dark and the figs are top notch. I have a couple JH Adriatic and a couple strawberry verte (green Ischia) in pots and they are also very good figs, probably on a par with Panache for flavor. They can't come close to matching in vigor or production though. Plus the little striped hot air balloon figs look cool.


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My potted figs : Vista, RdB, Strawberry verte, Atreano, Black Madeira
Tissue culture plants: Hardy Chicago, "Blue" Ischia, Desert King, LSU Purple, Kadota, Celeste  
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You're in Raeford, that's only 3hrs or less East of me in Chrlotte. Don't waste your time with Panachee. It splits and sours here. I got 3 giant Panachees and may get one or 2 good one worth eating every year.

Get these...
Adriatic JH,
Verte
Strawberry Verte
Strawberry
Paradiso
Col de Dam
V Silka
Green Greek
and Battaligia Green are my favorites and do quite well in NC.
Some say Strawberry is the same as Verte, it is not. Strawberry came from Lousianna and is an heirloom and wonderful tasting fig! Put these figs in an all day sunny spot and you will be dancing every day!

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I see that you are in Greece. Have you shipped them without issue to the U.S. before? I need to research some local laws.


If you buy on ebay from outside the US, you will get a call or visit from USDA, and the cuttings/trees will be confiscated.  In fact, if you are unlucky, they will take all of your fig trees.

Moral: do not buy cuttings or trees from out of the US on ebay.

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Snaglpus, I think our climates are probably the most similar so I will probably start with your recommendations. I think you have more Green fig with red interior varieties than I have in my entire collection! I think my green ischia and two or three more varieties will do it for me..... for now. Thanks for your advice.

DrPhil, thanks for your advice as well.

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Dave, I just ordered some JH Adriatic. It seems that nobody has anything bad to say about that variety. It looks similar to my green ischia except better. Nice pics!
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Just a few of my green-reds......difficult to say what is the best...you say!

Common fig nr 1

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Smyrna fig nr 2

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Common fig nr 3

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Seedling fig nr 4 ( could be a Smyrna, but not yet sure)

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A true Smyrna ( believe it to be the most crunchiest white fig in the world)
Not good for the 'seedless' lovers

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Those look amazing, Francisco!  I love the puddle of syrup in the middle.
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for this year my  peloponnisiaka aspra and my tseligato

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Beautiful pictures, Andreas. Thank you!

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This is becoming a beautiful fig picture thread! It would be nice to know the name of those common figs.
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I read somewhere(unable to recall where) that Blansche Alasche has blood red interior. Hope someone has
a picture.
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That is making my mouth water!  Looks delicious!

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Andreas - this may be a stupid question, but do you have the wasp in your area?  Your figs and Lampo's look out of this world.

Any votes for Battaglia? 

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so far.  Hollier.
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@ pino    I do not have a photo in my pc, I will try and take one for you.

@ Francisco  great looking figs my friend.

@ Joe  thank you!!!

@ joann1536 thank you, I would soooo love to taste one at this time myself J

@ Mike   yes we do have the wasp in Greece. in fig orchards they plant one Capri / 10 trees. I never bothered with anything like that. But like I said we do have it here…  I think Francisco does something like that (he has awesome figs)

@ Yeehova here is one that is not green, but its not dark….

ohra tabahanosika

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Too bad the wasp doesn't live in NC. What is the coldest area the wasp is known to inhabit? I dont think it could live here, but I have a brother in central Florida....
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Outside a greek church here they have a tree where the fig exterior is lime colour with blood red interior. No
one knows its name. Going by hardly any figs drop to the ground, it could be a great tasting fig. I manage to sample
a couple of brebas that were not fully ripe. It was a productive tree and fig size is large. The office people at the church
tells me many people comes to get cuttings.
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@ paully22
it looks like you found youself a great fig.
good luck with it 

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Thank you fellows for your comments on my post with those fig pictures

Brian,

The names for those figs are:

nr1 - Côtio/Verdeal , Common

nr2 - Inchario Branco (strain SV), Smyrna

nr3 - Bebera Branca , Common

nr4 - Seedling (temporarily called Jade fig),  probably Smyrna

nr5 - Inchário Branco (strain AP) , Smyrna

They have all been repeatedly shown and talked about on this forum and there are more pictures on my (lampo) picture file with flickr .

Regarding the question on wasps, I must say yes, we do have wasps...(all over my District) with a full  Med climate... between 10 and 11 as per your standards.
In the country as well as in urban areas it is easy to find fig trees on back and front yards and of the best varieties, be they Common, Smyrna or San Pedro.

To make pollination easy and 'automatic' , people do bud or graft a pair of Caprifig scions on a branch or two of their figs and when the proper time comes (mid June) the wasps from the Caprifigs on the grafted branches will spread in the area and pollinate all figs

On established orchards of hundreds of trees, farmers grow several Caprifig trees in the middle of the other figs in a rate of 1 to 20 or 25 Common or Smyrna.

On Mike's question of what climate for Caprifigs (carica) , I can  say that long...long time ago they were available in Texas and Florida...Western Australia, South Africa,..
The wild fig may stand as all other figs, rather low and/or high temperatures ,however the insect developing inside the wild syconiums will be killed by continued temps bellow 0º C and above 35ºC.

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Battaglia Green
Blanche de Deux Saisons
Col de Dame Blanc


Adriatic JH
Monstrueuse
Brooklyn White
Paradiso "Gene"
Panachee


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Excellent pic's and collection Lampo. I think my friends here have nr1 and 3 here.

@Andreas -- I hope so too. It has a beautiful deep red interior inspite of the sampled fig about 60%
ripe.
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Paully22,

Thanks. Lucky friends you have!
When the time comes please let us have a look on that 'church fig'. From your description it looks that it is a San Pedro.
Have a list of popular San Pedro figs in Greece but cannot find it
On some hand written notes found these two: but there are more..
‘Μαύρη Βοτανικού’  ,   ‘Φρακασάνα’
May be Andreas can help with the correct translation

Francisco
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Dear Andreas (Andreas-Pastras)
Saw pictures of your Peloponnisiaka and Tseligato Figs fruit you posted on Fig4fund. Can I buy a cutting each of these figs from you? Let me know. lebichhop@wowway.com , Thanks Linda

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