newnandawg
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and how long have they been there? Where are you located, zone etc? Celeste three years. Zone 8a, Newnan Ga.
DesertDance
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Not sure mine count. New property in Zone 9B, Southern California (fig country Mediterranean climate). Older figs. VDB x 2. Air layer 3 years old planted last June. Mom, 4 years old moved a month ago and is now in ground. Both have many new green sprouts and figs. Verte: 5 months in ground and growing like the weed it is! LSU Gold: 1 year in ground and very healthy. Paridiso: BIG grower in ground 8 months. Adriatic: In ground 8 months. Small, but healthy with big growth potential. Borjosotte Gris: In ground 1 month. Showing good growth. Marsailles VS: 1 month in ground doing well. Panache, 1 month in ground and growing well. Hardy Chicago, 1 month in ground and doing well. RdB, 1 month in ground and doing well. One unknown in ground and doing well. Desert King, 1 month in ground and looking good. The most vigorous of all is Verte! It never went dormant. Every day, I stand in the same place and watch it reach growth goals I set for it. You can almost watch it grow!! It's next to a deck, and it's almost to the black bar. Next goal is to the white deck. Next to the top of the rail. Next to the 18th limb on the pine below......... I am very sad about the figs I lost to fungus gnats, and those I planted in ground too early. Hard lessons learned. I had some really good cuttings die from many members here. I can hardly look at the list of rooted cuttings the gnats got. Some day, I'll face it, and see if they can be replaced. I have Galbun in a container, and I know it lives, but there is no green on it, and I am waiting to see that prior to putting it in-ground. Suzi
__________________ Zone 9b, Southern California. "First year they sleep, Second year they creep, Third year they leap!" Wish List: I wish all of you happy fig collecting! My wishes have been fulfilled!
newnandawg
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Suzi, I am interested in seeing all the trees that are in ground. I do have the most interest in those in a little colder climate than yours. You do get frost and occasional freezes, don't you? What was your lost temp you can remember this winter? Thanks for sharing the varieties you have in ground. I am sure there are others who would have interest in yours.
DesertDance
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Mike, our lowest temp was 28 degrees F. It was only for a couple days. This was a year of little rain, so no frost or snow. In other years like last year, snow fell, but it didn't stick. Heat rises, but in the valley below the commercial citrus orchards have these turbines to keep the citrus from freezing. We heard those go on (they are loud) about 5 nights. We do have low chill days and zone 9b is able to grow things like Avocados, Pomegranates, Olives, Guavas, Citrus, Wine Grapes, Macadamias, Pistachios, and low chill varieties of peaches, pears, plums and apricots. I would love to have every fig out there, and we do have a lot of property in which to plant them. All in good time! Suzi
__________________ Zone 9b, Southern California. "First year they sleep, Second year they creep, Third year they leap!" Wish List: I wish all of you happy fig collecting! My wishes have been fulfilled!
greg88
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Gino's Bl and MB VS, both 3 year old trees, both in ground this past spring, so first winter in ground. Both close to S. wall of house and thus protected from N winds but not NW winds and both wrapped. We will see what this exceptionally cold winter has done.
__________________ Greg North West Arkanasas Zone 6b Wish list: any SPECTACULAR cold hardy figs, and/or perhaps a Niagra Bl., Laradek EBT, Kathleen's Bl, Hunt, a great UNK or anything anyone wants me to have???
snaglpus
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In the ground 5yrs +
187-15
143-36 aka Emerald Strawberry
LSU Purple
Los Lunas
De La Senyora
Sal's
Sal's Corleone BC31
Weeping Fig
LSU Champagne
Stella
Cato Bella
Improved Celeste
Sweet Charlotte
Mezelan Merlandosa (sp)
Strawberry
Ronde de Bordeaux
Susser Georg
JH Adriatic
Celeste
White Triana
Hunt
Raspberry Latte
LSU Everbearing
Marseliies Black
Marseilles White
Black Celeste
Atreano
Atreano Gold
Martin's Unknown
Pananas Purple
Hardy Chicago
Don Fortiss
Italian 258
Smith
Votata
Lamperia
Green Greek
Encanto
Deanna
GM#9
Alma
Petite Negra
Violete de Bordeaux
Negronne
Byadi
LSU Hollier
Tacoma Violet
Desert King
and a few others that I cant remember at the moment...don't have my map with me at the moment
Charlotte, NC zone 8a
__________________ Dennis Charlotte, North Carolina/Zone 8a
newnandawg
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Dennis, very impressive list. Same zone as I, so I need to get busy.
Do you protect those in the winter?
FiggieFive_0
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Aloha, Dennis. Goodness! That is truly a testament to the passion you have for figs! How big is your yard? Nate
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snaglpus
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Posted 1393039848
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I protect only 3---- De la Senyora, Smith and I258. Two years a go, I winterized the all and all the hard work completely wore me out. I wrap with burlap and stuff with leaves.
It's an one acre lot, all are on a hill.
There's a couple more that I forget. I want to add more but the wife says no.
__________________ Dennis Charlotte, North Carolina/Zone 8a
bullet08
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dennis, how's soil around your area?
__________________ Pete Durham, NC Zone 7b "don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher ***** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. ***** ***** and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...*****
Rewton
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Dennis, you said you protect De la Senyora, Smith and I258 but many more are unprotected. I had heard Smith is sensitive to die back in the winter but hadn't heard the other two are particularly cold sensitive. Can you comment on how these two do in colder areas?
__________________ Steve MD zone 7a
paully22
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4 Yrs & Over Desert King Latarrula Elana Nebo Osborne Prolific Yugo Yellow Conadria Hollier Barbillone Melanzana Enrico Some Unknowns Vincenzo Large Dark Greek Nardi Blk Lounge d'Aout3 Yrs & Under RdB Granthams Royal Dauphine No winter protection for any of my in-ground figs except the less than a year old Dauphine.
Feigenbaum
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Bayernfeige Violetta, about 7 years old, 5 years in ground, no protection. Location: Northern Germany, zone 7b. In cold winters (up to -17°C) little dieback at last years groth. In mild winters like this one (low of -10°C ) no dieback at all. Picture taken 15min ago. -10°C =14°F -17°F =1,4°F
__________________ Hi from Germany! (Zone 7b) Christian
FiggyFrank
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Posted 1393091029
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Most of the 2nd year trees are probably dead to the ground. I might have a few come back to life. I did not protect any of these. Lots more varieties in pots, safe and sound in my garage.4th year 2nd year Dark Portuguese VdB MBVS Bari Atreano Long d' Aout LSU Gold Negronne
__________________ Frank zone 7a - VA
shah8
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Just a pair of Petite Negri ~20 years. Only one or two years with any tip dieback at all in NAtlanta.
__________________ Especially desired figs: UCD 187-25, UCD 200-48, UCD 157-17, UCD 309-B1, Princesa, Black Madeira, high quality sugar fig that ripens Sept-Oct. Probable desired fig: Smith, St Jean, JH Adriatic, CddB, Gulbun, Pastilliere, Sucrette Rooting: Smith, CDDB--this pretty much means I have my fun tries (tho' important since they are truly desirable), and only interested for this year: Gulbun, BM, 187-25, or something wildly exotic or precious that nobody has any good reason to send me.
willwall
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The only fig in ground is a desert king. It has been there for 5 years. Vancouver, BC, Canada. It produced more than 300 brebas last year.
jdsfrance
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Hi, Here is the list of my inground tree in zone 7 Eastern France Europe- with -25°C as the lowest night temps some years: Gone/fried in Feb 2012 , one 6yo and six 5yo unknown from the Italian, 1 Sultane, 1 brownturkey lost to rodents 5 years : 1 unknown from the Italian - a strain that could be related to dauphine 4 years : Dalmatie tree1 - not very productive , longue d'aout - not productive in 2012 and 2013 3 years : "Goutte d'or" tree1 , Unkown 2 - never fruited , Unkonwn 3 - never fruited , Brownturkey 2 years : 4 unknown from the Italian, Dalmatie tree2, "Goutte d'or" tree2,"Goutte d'or" tree3 1 year : Sultane ( again) , Ice crystal, madeleine des deux saisons , dalmatie tree3, unknown 4 - never fruited , unknown 5 ?BT/Brunswick? - never fruited
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Climate from -25°C to + 35°C
Only cold hardy figtrees can make it here
Rewton
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Paully22 - where are you located and what zone are you in? Thanks! I have two in-ground trees: an Kathleen's Black and Sicilian Red. Both are 2-3 years old and were put in ground last Spring. They are protected and so far they look like they should survive this winter though the Sicilian Red (not protected as well as KB) does show a little die-back on one branch.
__________________ Steve MD zone 7a
nullzero
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Figs in ground for 6 months, zone 10a. Vista, Dark Portuguese, Capelas. Sandy soil moderately fast draining.
snaglpus
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I should protect my all of my trees, but I don't. I like to wrap the tree with burlap and stuff it with leaves. Last year, I did not plan accordingly and I ran out of burlap. I could have used thin fencing wiring but I didn't. I just covered my most sensitive trees and said a prayer.
Atreano is too big to cover. It's a monster! But I messed up years ago and cut my trees too low. Today, they are at the stage were they are thick little bushes. Yes,
Smith is very sensitive to cold. I mean real sensitive! In my research, without protection, it will die back very hard and only produce a handful of figs when summer comes. So, I have to protect it.
I258 only gives me figs when it is protected the previous year. Otherwise it will only give me figs every 2 yrs and I have to hope for a hot Fall.
For those who want to grow these 3 up North better protect it if you want figs.
My soil is loamy clay. Some spots were loamier than others. Some spots were hard pan clay. Before I planted each tree, I tilled up the hole and added cow manure. But some needed more sand or no sand. But I tested the pH of every hole I dug.
__________________ Dennis Charlotte, North Carolina/Zone 8a
newnandawg
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scott_ga
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I have currently have Alma, Hunt, Hardy Chicago, Col de Dame (white), Celeste, and Sal's EL in the ground --all about 4-6 years old. A few more have been given away as not suitable for the climate. Black Madeira, Peter's Honey, Enderub, Violette de Bordeaux, Marseilles Black VS, and Col de Dame Noir are in pots. We got down to 10 F this year which was a little colder than normal for us. Just damage to last year's growth on most figs. Supposed to be 7b.
__________________ Scott North Georgia Zone 7b
omotm
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Posted 1393197258
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Smith and Celeste. Agree with Dennis, even here in the Houston area my 2 year Smith is very sensitive to cold. I've probably lost 25% of last years growth due to cold. Do good intentions count? Here's my spot from late last November where I was planning to plant my LSU Tiger in ground before it got way to cold way to quick. Oh well, maybe in a couple of weeks.
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__________________ Steve
Houston, TX
Zone 8b
Wish List:
Zingarella
newnandawg
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Thanks Steve. Please remind me about zingarella in spring.
paully22
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@ Rewton, I am located in Canada, British Columbia, near Vancouver, Zone 6/7.
rafed
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I have a couple. I think a BT ( Jons Favorite ) and I think a Black Jack. Both never produced and if they did they would not ripen in time. They would die to the ground and grow back. Couple years ago I started to better wrap them but still not good enough. They would be all moldy and dark. I guess from sweating during the warm winter days? Last year I placed half inch pipes to expose the top for venting but this still didn't help. Finally I said to heck with it. I am planning on selling the house and try to find a bigger house with a bigger yard so I am holding off on planting any more in the ground. I have seen a few in ground trees here in Michigan and they look great. One is Uncle Theos tree. That's Johns uncle but out of respect I too call him uncle Theo. His tree is huge. Here's the link to uncle Theos tree,http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/huge-fig-trees-in-sterling-hights-mi-6418916
newnandawg
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Rafed, thanks for your post. All these post will help me decide whic 15-20 I will plant
in ground this spring.
rafed
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Mike, "Florea" I think Vasile (herman2) named it after his father. I believe he said this tree is very cold hardy and will do good in the ground. Look into it. Added,http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/florea-fighas-ripe-breba-inground-in-new-jersey-5377863
rcantor
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Hardy Chicago, with plans to try Florea, Nordland and Bayenfiege Violetta if I can. :)
__________________ Zone 6, MO Wish list: Galicia Negra, De La Reina - Pons, Genovese Nero - Rafed's, Sbayi, Souadi, Acciano, Any Rimada, Sodus Sicilian, any Bass, Pons or Axier fig, any great tasting fig.
Chivas
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Colisanti Dark seems to be fairly hardy as well for me, the cover blew off it yesterday and I saw some tip dieback on younger branches, but the older ones seem fine, 3rd winter for me in ground. This year all I did was put bubble insulation single layered and a blanket over the top bit covered with several tarps (too big for the other tarps.) We will see how the Niagara Black does, as well as the col de dama noir and RdB. If the dog had chewed up the MBVS I would have a better idea on this one as I left it un covered but it looked promising as it didn't show die back as of beginning of January.
__________________ Canada Zone 6B
johnwalterhanna
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Celeste three years in ground. Coldest temp was this winter at 5.9F. Nine year average low temp 10.5F. Will look at the damage(?) this spring. If you have a fig that you want tested in northern Idaho please send me a cutting. :,) John Lewiston, Idaho zone 7b, sandy loam soil Wishlist: Cold Hardy Figs
pino
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Originally Posted by newnandawg Rafed, thanks for your post. All these post will help me decide whic 15-20 I will plant in ground this spring.
Some good suggestions on this thread! Wondering what 15-20 figs you decided to plant in ground and how they have fared?
__________________Pino, zone 6, Niagara, JCJ Acres Wish; Peace on earth and more figs Italian 258, Galicia Negra, Luv, trade suggestions welcome.
Lewi
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Lemon fig..cold sensative, 4th year in a row it grew back from base.(drought/neglect or cold dep. On the year)..hope to grow trunk thicker this year.
One to two year old trees:
Agristarts "ischia" x2 (leaves resemble Joe m.'s white triana)
Florida Hill nurseries (agristart?) Italian Honey parent and scion (baby) tree...these went into hibernation well.
Wellspring's tx everbearing now 1.5 Y.O.( x2)
ALL TREES MODERATLY PROTECTED. 5ga buckets, pic sewer pipe, and the lemon fig is big so it's has freeze cloth, cardboard box,sheeting when temps go below 31 F. ALL larger TREES have rebar driven into ground to support the protection.
Protection taken off as soon as it warms up...so far this will be the fourth time we put back protection.
This year has been mild compared to the 12F lows of the last couple of years...but we are not done yet...will breathe a sigh of relief in March.
__________________ West Florida (West of the Apalachiola River as defined by the proclamation of 1763). zone 8a winters can get cold for figs...down to 12 F twice in last four years. Lewi = Levite