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Which single fig tree would you keep

Thanks John,

I'd like to hope that older trees can fight off scale, as it's pesky to deal with.  I've only had a problem with hard scale that looks like tiny reddish-brown barnacles and that can be harder to get rid of.  I use alcohol to spray on the trees, then spray them with an insecticidal soap with, or without pyrethrin in it.

noss

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Originally Posted by Elruge
Hi Noss Good question. The pests I see in my greenhouse are red spider and scale insect. My figs don't usually get the spider, my peaches are more susceptible, but they are prone to scale. My white marseilles never suffers. This might not be entirely variety related as it is also my oldest fig and my verte which is my second oldest also seems scale free. It may be that as my other figs age they will also become scale resistant. If that does happen then my single fig choice could change.

I have the same set up, plants in pots inside my greenhouse and on most of the varieties I have scale bugs as well. I noticed that when you see ants on the branches or leaves, you will discover some scale bugs when looking attentively.
Elruge, do you act against the bugs or do you just leave them as they are?

My favorite so far is the Cendrosa (at least I think that's what it is), it ripens very late, starting Sep but goes on until sometimes end of Nov, weather permitting. The taste is very good, good size as well, not very handsome but who cares?
My Negronne gave me one breba, but it is still very young, we will see later on when the main crop ripens. I still have the Madeleine as well, with lots of main crop figs getting huge by now. But I haven't tasted one before and all the brebas fell off.
I also have a honey type fig which resembles a white Marseille but it will at best produce 10 brebas, so I don't think it is one. The main crop though is very good as well, very sweet, small size, about 40g.

Are your figs growing in pots inside your greenhouse? We have a similar climate, so we might share experiences here?
 

Stormy, I do act against the scale. I am reluctant to use chemicals, so I use regular inspection followed by any manual action necessary. I crush the scale using thumb and finger being as careful as I can not to tear the leaf. This process is quite therapeutic but can be a bit time consuming. It works for me. It helps that pot culture keeps my figs small so fewer leaves to check.
Relating to ants, they are regular visitors to the greenhouse but since I put pot feet under all my pots I have not seen any climbing up the pots to get at my plants. In previous years before the pot feet this was not the case.

The ants are the worst offenders when you have aphids, or scale, or mealybugs because they "farm" them, encouraging them to prosper so the ants can eat the honeydew from them.  Keeping the ants killed off will aid in getting rid of the scale and other pests.

It's the tiny "sugar ants" we have here who are the worst offenders of all and they may have done in one of my Key Lime trees.  I had to cut it down quite a way to try and save it and there are several sap runs that I'm worried are borers, but I don't know how to tell about that.  Other than that, there are all new sprouts that look healthy, which are coming from right above the graft line to about a foot above it.  I'm hoping the tree is saved, but am concerned about the sap runs.

noss

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Originally Posted by Elruge
Stormy, I do act against the scale. I am reluctant to use chemicals, so I use regular inspection followed by any manual action necessary. I crush the scale using thumb and finger being as careful as I can not to tear the leaf. This process is quite therapeutic but can be a bit time consuming. It works for me. It helps that pot culture keeps my figs small so fewer leaves to check. Relating to ants, they are regular visitors to the greenhouse but since I put pot feet under all my pots I have not seen any climbing up the pots to get at my plants. In previous years before the pot feet this was not the case.

First time this year I wrapped glue paper around the trunks of the biggest plants to keep the ants away. It works great, provided there is no other contact between the plant and the ground off course, like with sticks or a wall for instance.

What's glue paper, that's not tree grease is it?
I have used tree grease on some in ground fruit trees and ended up over the following weeks, as I forgot it was there, regularly getting it on my clothes. It's really difficult stuff to clean off, impossible to get rid of the black marks completely. After that I decided not to use it any more.
So is glue paper something different?

Noss, hope your key lime recovers. It's not a tree that what do well in my climate. Not enough sun and heat in the summer and although it would probably survive the relatively mild winters it would I am sure lose its leaves.


Hey John, Spray your greenhouse trees with sb invigorator. It feeds your plants also. Great stuff and you'll never see a bug.


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John,

What are pot feet?  Do you have any photos, or can you let me know a link to them so I may go see them?

Thanks,

noss

Hi Vinny, I've got some of that stuff and have used it in the fruit cage. You reckon it's good in the greenhouse as well. Would you use it at the normal application strength for plants under glass.

Noss,
They are just small manufactured pieces of clay or plastic designed to be placed under a pot to raise it slightly off of the ground, primarily for drainage. If you Google images "pot feet" all will be revealed.

Thanks John.  I'll go look for pot feet, then.  I'd like to get some of those to raise the pots a little off the ground.

Sounds like a good thing to me.

noss

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Originally Posted by Elruge
Stormy, I do act against the scale. I am reluctant to use chemicals, so I use regular inspection followed by any manual action necessary. I crush the scale using thumb and finger being as careful as I can not to tear the leaf. This process is quite therapeutic but can be a bit time consuming. It works for me. It helps that pot culture keeps my figs small so fewer leaves to check. Relating to ants, they are regular visitors to the greenhouse but since I put pot feet under all my pots I have not seen any climbing up the pots to get at my plants. In previous years before the pot feet this was not the case.


Hi, john:  How can pot feet help to prevent ants from getting up to the plants for honey dew?

I like the words you use, "manual", "therapeutic", to eradicate scales, aphids, and mealy bugs. I tend to use direct, far less elegant descriptions on them: squeeze, pinch, and crush, and sometimes with #$@% curse words. :-)  To some extent, it does have certain therapeutic effect, but not if one has to do it every day for three weeks...As a matter of fact, I am still doing it for my Satsuma orange tree, after I was out of the country for 6 weeks during this spring.  These bugs exploded on the tree branches and leaves.  Neem oil is supposed to help but not as effective in my case.  Happy gardening.

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A very effective control for aphids, mealybugs and other 'suckers' is a simple soap solution.

Almost any real soap can be used, (soap, not detergents) but you don't need moisturizers, scents and so on, so that will limit your soap choices when dealing with bar soarps.  But it has been shown that potassium based soaps are even more effective than sodium (Potassium hydroxide lye as opposed to sodium hydroxide lye used to make the soap), which generally means a liquid soap...liquid castile soaps and Murphy's Oil soap fall in that category.

Mix 1 TBS of the soap (liquid...if bar soap, it needs to be liquified first) per quart of clean water in a spray bottle and cover the bugs well.  Test a small leaf first, as some plants are more sensitive and can suffer from leaf burn.

Also, a strong jet of water can be used to wash minor infestations away.

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Originally Posted by Elruge
What's glue paper, that's not tree grease is it? I have used tree grease on some in ground fruit trees and ended up over the following weeks, as I forgot it was there, regularly getting it on my clothes. It's really difficult stuff to clean off, impossible to get rid of the black marks completely. After that I decided not to use it any more. So is glue paper something different?

It is green paper covered in glue at one side, so you wrap it around the trunk base and fix it with cord. Any ant or other bug trying to climb the trunk will be stuck.

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Originally Posted by Elruge
What's glue paper, that's not tree grease is it? I have used tree grease on some in ground fruit trees and ended up over the following weeks, as I forgot it was there, regularly getting it on my clothes. It's really difficult stuff to clean off, impossible to get rid of the black marks completely. After that I decided not to use it any more. So is glue paper something different?

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Thanks Stormy, I can get glue bands in the UK and might try them if ants become a problem.

Schang, I am not recommending pot feet as a protection against ants and I am sorry if I gave that impression. I was making an observation that since I have started using them for my greenhouse pots I have only seen them on the floor not on my plants. I bought the pot feet as a drainage aid not as an ant deterrent. It's completely possible that the ant scouts just haven't discovered my pots are off the floor now.

I would second Figgysid1’s vote for Figo Preto/Black Madeira. It’s a heavy bearer with large, delicious fruit that are always the 10 standard in flavor. Mine isn’t as vigorous a grower and likes to branch out rather than up which is fine for pot culture as well as in the ground. It wants to put all its energy into figs rather than growth.

I almost would almost agree with Frankallen about Strawberry Verte except that its brebas were disappointing in taste considering how wonderful the main crop is. No fig tree is perfect but FP/BM and SV come close. 

BM / FP it is..... now all I have to do is get them to grow..... get them to grow in quantity and get them to ripen to full maturity..... That is all that I am asking for.... if I plan on 1 good fig from each plant, that means that I have to successfully grow about 25 BM's and 25 FP's..... Can I do it?

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Ronde de Bordeaux would be my choice for great, all-around fig.  Ripens sooner than all my other varieties, delicious, and plentiful, although on the smaller side.

Preto has always been my favorite tasting fig and still is.  Just needs some heat.  I've seen figs stay on for 4 months before ripening.  Well worth it though!

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BM / FP it is..... now all I have to do is get them to grow..... get them to grow in quantity and get them to ripen to full maturity..... That is all that I am asking for.... if I plan on 1 good fig from each plant, that means that I have to successfully grow about 25 BM's and 25 FP's..... Can I do it?


I keep multiplying mine, Tony.  I do get ripened Pretos every year but they're usually last.  I have got some as early as September in zone 7.  Mine all grow very well with clusters of figs at a time.  Well...let me explain..  They grow branches and set their figs until around July, then the tree is at a complete stand-still, showing no activity and just sits for months inactive until the figs are ready to ripen.  Well worth the wait.  But as you mentioned, the more trees you grow, the better your chances to indulge.  Good luck my friend.

Thank you, Frank! I remain eternally hopeful!....   :-)

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