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Tam

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The Greek owner said many years ago, his friend from Madeira Islands gave him a few green fig trees. His trees are very old. This is White Madeira No. 1. These figs were extremely sweet, jammy like dried date fruits and with a sweet, ripened strawberry flavor. They had crunchy pulps and also little crunchy on the skins. The taste and textures were extremely good and they were a little sweeter than the sweetest Smith figs that I had eaten so far. The leaves and fruits are similar to my Black Madeira. 

























































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I'm not a light fig fan but that looks really good Tam.
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Tami: These figs have excellent taste.

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I have started to eat the main crops since August 15. The breba crops were the same, but larger in size and also had excellent taste.

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Looks great  and tasty.
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Tam, very nice pics. Thanks for sharing. I am becoming more of a light fig fan.
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Your welcome to everyone. Thank you for watching.

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Very nice pictures, looks delicious.  I would be interested in some cuttings someday if you ever have any available.

Thanks for posting.
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Tam,
Thanks for posting the pictures and commentary.
That looks like a healthy productive tree. And the figs look tasty.
How large or small are the eyes when they ripen? Thanks.
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Pete: They have medium open eyes on the skins only, but not through the pulps. We had a lot rain here during spring and summer. A few ripened figs had closed eyes. The breba crops had closed eyes.

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Thanks for sharing, Tam, they look great!
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Love the interior, looks really tasty!
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When I have a time, I will post a few more different White Madeira trees (they have different taste and variation in leave shapes) . All of them taste excellent. One of them had a complex taste and a nice, spicy flavor. After eating these ripened figs, my mouth had a sensation for a few hours.

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Tam, it is interesting how the leaves and shape of the fruit is very similar to Black Madeira except that it is a green fig rather than a dark fig.  Does the Greek gentleman have his tree growing in-ground in the Wash. DC area?  Or is it in a container?  I'm wondering how cold hardy it is.  Thanks for posting.
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This looks like a great fig. As Rewton noted, the leaves are very close to Black Madeira. The fig pics look great. Thanks for posting
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Tam, I was just sharing the photos with my dad and uncle (my grandparents immigrated from Madeira). We'd like a cutting! :)
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When I have a time, I will post a few more different White Madeira trees (they have different taste and variation in leave shapes) . All of them taste excellent. One of them had a complex taste and a nice, spicy flavor. After eating these ripened figs, my mouth had a sensation for a few hours.

Well now Tam , that one has the most interest for me ! Would love to see more pics of the "spicy " one!
If ever there are cuttings available , I'd love to get in line !
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Great find Tam, next year I will be going to Madeira island for 2 weeks to
Visit family hope to go fig hunting.

Ps If cuttings are available I would definately be interested.

Thanks for posting the pics

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Nice pic Tam ,beatiful light fig with excellent taste.I need to add this to my wishlist .Thanks for sharing.
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Tam, those look and sound VERY interesting, especially the spicy one.  Pattee and I have the same taste.  =)  I would love to buy some cuttings of the one pictured and the spicy one if you have any available this fall.  Thanks for sharing the pics and descriptions with us.  
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Hi Tam, thanks for the pictures. The color of the pulp is very beautiful. The taste description sounds as beautiful as it looks.
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Steve: All of his fig trees are growing in the ground in the Washington D.C. area, zone 7a. They have no winter protection for 20 plus years. Many members have asked me the cuttings of White Madeira No. 1; however, I currently do not have any cutting of White Madeira No. 1 yet. Thank you.

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Great pictures!  Thank you for sharing Tam.
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Here are more photos on White Madeira No. 1:


















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That just looks and sounds great.  Thanks for sharing

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looks very enticing to eat, have to visit my friend in Maryland, and go fig hunting...
please put me in line for some cuttings...if you can get to some.
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Thank you for watching my photos. White Madeira No. 1 still has excellent in taste even though we had a lot of rain here in the spring and summer. White Madeira No. 1 is more superb than the following figs that I have been eating this year so far: Hardy Chicago, Hunt, LSU Scott's Black, Marseilles VS Black, Smith, Negretta, Chris Black, Paradiso, Peter's Honey, Ronde de Bordeaux, Sal's EL, Sicilian Black, Violette de Bordeaux (Negronne), White Marseilles, Portuguese Celeste, Petit Negri,  Atreano RR, English Brown Turkey, Brunswick, Filacciano, Grantham's Royal and Black Mission.

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looks very good. nice pictures,thanks for posting
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Thanks for sharing more beautiful photos of beautiful figs, Tam!
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That's a beautiful fig!  Great pics. I can almost taste them
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Do the birds stay away from it or is protection usually needed for them?
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Thank you for watching. 

Chivas: Birds, bees and flies are not bother them. I have not seen any fruit damage or eating by them so far. There is no protection for all his fig trees.

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Hey Tam, thanks for sharing, this is a great looking fig, if you can get cuttings and you want to trade send me a PM
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Hello Tam,

Your fig could well be one of the best Common, small Portuguese white figs, still cultivate by old connoisseurs in Madeira as well as in continental Portugal.
Bears the name of 'BACORINHO' in both regions.

May I invite my good friend Nelson to verify this... He may already have in his rich collection at least one Bacorinho.

I have two small trees rooted this Spring but no figs yet.

It is a delicious fig with a red pulp with purplish tones.
If I find pictures , will post them.

Francisco
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Tam
Those figs look great. That's the way I remember figs as a kid! Thanks for posting.
If there is a possibility to buy or share some cuttings, please put me on your list.
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Francisco: Thank you for your comments. Please post your photos. I did not see any purplish tones in the pulps of these figs. 

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I have noticed the eyes of these figs are getting smaller as the weather becomes more dryer (less rain).

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By the way, I forgot to mention that a few real ripened figs did have a little spicy flavor. 

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Francisco you beat me, I was just going to say just that this fig is more than likely Bacorinho and I had my cousin driving around madeira Island for 2 years to find one. He sent me 2 cuttings but unfortunately both eventually died.

Bacorinho is a very rare fig in Madeira today sadly, considering they are probably the best white figs on the island.

I will try to get new cuttings next year of the bacorinho and hopefully locate an Anjinho fig tree while im at it.
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That is a beautiful fig, I would also ask to put me in line for cuttings but the list is pretty long, lol
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Hi Tam,

Found the pictures I mentioned before.
These figs are 'Bacorinho' taken from an old and sick in ground tree. The owner is trying to tender it as best as he can but the signs of improvement are not yet there.
These figs may have been pollinated and never been artificially irrigated.

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Francisco: Thank you for your photos. Bacorinho figs have purplish red pulps. Skin on Bacorinho figs are thicker and more round at the base. The necks are more shorter. Do you have pictures of the leaves.

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Will see if I may still get any leaves and send you pictures.

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Francisco: Can you please let me know the taste of Bacorinho figs? Thank you very much.

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Francisco the pics you posted look more like the bacorinho as I remember been a long time since I ate them atleast 23-24 years but I remember it having a short neck and red pulp. Also makes an early breba that is very good flavored.

Tam it's a strawberry type fig, the closest fig I had to date even leaf was very close from what I remember was strawberry fig from almostedenplants I lost that plant over winter and definately want a replacement.

http://almostedenplants.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=1008



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Well it is an amazing looking fig, I like the looks of the leaves too and find many excellent tasting figs have this plainer looking leaf. I'd be willing to trade cuttings of just about any fig I have for this one.
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Tam,

I am not keen on these sort of descriptions, although I can distinguish between several cultivars where the best fruits are. On the other hand my ideal ripeness gauge for tasting figs is probably not similar to yours, once I do not let the fruit  go over-ripe for the effect of tasting. For me, the moment to taste a fig is right under the tree, early morning, minutes after sunrise, select the one with soft but firm body, some skin cracks already evident, may be a tear on the eye, the fruit starting to bend on its foot...

From what I recall, Bacorinho is a sweet, fruity and flavor rich fig, aromatic , leaving a lasting souvenir on your palate.
Long ago it was a must in every orchard or backyard... now very difficult to find

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I hope your survive Fransisco, I want to see more pictures of this one it looks very very delicious even if it isn't the same as Tams.
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Francisco: Thank you for your information. So, you think White Madeira No. 1 is 100% Bacorinho?

Nelson: I have the Strawberry tree from Almost Eden Nursery. The leaves and fruits are not the same. The fruits on Strawberry have shorter necks and long stems vs White Madeira No.1 has longer necks and the very little to no stems. Strawberry's pulps are purplish red and the skins have a little light purple. Thank you.

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Hi

Tam,  I got a promise for one or two (late) , end of season Bacorinhos . Hope they will get ripe before the rain coming stronger..(already started), will then get additional pictures of fruit and leaves.

The purplish hue on the pulp color, according to a friend, comes from the caprification process.
The standard pulp color is exactly as shown on those Tam's  excellent pictures.

Nelson, from local contacts there has been not many Bacorinho brebas. The trees are small, about 6' high, same on round.  It's somehow a delicate small tree.
I bought two rooted trees earlier this year and they seem to be OK. I have to wait for the first fruit to be sure of what they are....the nursery 'surprises'.

There is another fig called Bacorinha, (feminine word)  also a Common . It's a totally different fig, yellow skin and amber pulp... and

One more variant, dark green skin, with carmine pulp very similar  in shape to Bacorinho and BM, called 'de Pé Comprido' ... translates to ... ´Long Foot' . Have a promise for a couple of rooted trees next year.

Francisco
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