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Had my first main season PN today. It was about 21g and picked black but unripe. I had low expectations, but it was mostly like eating a dry raspberry (tho' that's not the flavor--I was too surprised to really taste). Tart and sweeter than acid, for the win! Birds have started their harvests of anything that remotely looked ripe. These are waaaay early fruits, so I think.
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Shah8, you right these are very early figs. That black one shown on pics does not produce brebas and they become ripe as I said mid July. It is their average size, that one was a 59 g fruit. What I like in this fig is its pulp color which always shows marked orange traces when ripe. Apparently some members in this forum do have a problem getting this sort of fig ripe.
Francisco
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All my black figs are now ripe. Sweeter and tastier than last season...
Francisco
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Dieseler
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Lampo i looked at you zip file of the fruits what type are those ?
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Martin they look good dont they.
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lampo
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Dieseler,
Thank you for looking at my 'black figs'.My fault for not identifying the pics.
Well, nrs 12-13-14 - Smyrna Black (Euchário Preto)in pots.
Have shown before at varios stages of maturation, before and after 'wasp service'.
nrs 15-16-17 - This potted young fig tree I was given by a close friend this winter,indicating the variety as Curia. A San Pedro type fig.Have further inquired about its origins and was told that it could well be an Iberian ancestor of the Mission variety. Not sure, I have to dig further. Leaf cut is very similar to Mission but its texture is quite different, approaching the color and thickness/touch of the loquat leaves.
I am sure that this fig was caprified and have reserved one fruit to dry and test its seeds.
Thank you Nelson for your kind words
(1 euro coin in the pics is 22.3 mm approx 7/8 ")
Cheers
Francisco
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The local variety 'TRES NUM PRATO' described by early authors and in Nelson's list of Portuguese figs is now becoming ripe and with the help of my neighbor I could lay my hands on a couple of them and send the attached pictures. My trees are still too young, may be next year I shall have one or two fruits. I am convinced that here we are talking of a COMMON type fig, although erratically, these trees may in some years produce a few brebas. Their size is above average, around 60+ gram, very sweet and flavored. Variations on skin colors may be a result of the location of the fruit in the tree, getting more or less sun light, wind..etc To my question if this variety always shows these nice and big fruit, the grower said : yes, providing they get the assistance of the 'wild fig'! By the way, he also gave me some guidance on how to substitute the caprifig and assure me that 'IT WORKS'!! -will talk about that later. This fig has a strong popular demand in rural markets and always fetch high prices (around $7.5 per Kg). Cheers Francisco
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7-14-2012 Celeste Alma Ginos 7-21-2012 BT 7-28-2012 Texas Everbearing LSU Purple St Jerome 8-4-2012 Hardy Chicago Conadria EL
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Long expected 'branduras' in a scalding Summer are bringing softness to the still hard but ripening figs, accelerating their maturation. This is typical of this place facing the southern coast with the sea always in view. The word 'brandura' (Spanish - 'blandura') with us, means exactly the very light cool sea breezes, loaded with humidity, appearing in the early morning hours and being generally lifted late in the morning. This time I am bringing up a fig we call 'OLHO DA VINHA' or 'FIGO DE PADERNE' (COMMON type) and I wonder if I may find through the lot that has been written, discussed and shown, its similar or close variety somewhere. I have to thank my neighbor for his offer of a plate of figs from where I took the ones for the pictures. This variety is one of the best I have ever tasted. Very sweet and juicy, with a reddish full pulp. Size above average, with fruits presenting various shades of red/brownish skin. Francisco
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Another black fig reaching full maturation now. This variety is known by 'COLAR' and is becoming very popular every year in both Portugal and Spain. A San Pedro variety producing the first brebas by mid June. The main crop (shown now) does not require caprification. A bulky fruit well in excess of 60 gr. Very sweet and tasty. Francisco
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PHD
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Lampo, thank you for the great pics. In particular the "Violet de Sollies" looks amazingly good. Pete
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Pete,
Thank you for your kind comment. This variety is known for its productivity of top quality fruits. Its sweetness is always associated to a light and tasty acid flavor.
Along the years and after visiting many farms and orchards I came to the conclusion that the best Black and White Bourjassotte's are the ones growing on sites close to the sea shores.
Francisco
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This variety called 'BEBERA PRETA' is cultivated all over Portugal. It's a bulky fig of the Common type, sweet and flavored . Francisco
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Another common type fig, called 'DOIS À FOLHA'. Fruit of average size, roundish turbinate, with green skin. When fully ripe tends to crack around an open ostiole. Through the final stages of maturation, pulp changes from pinkish to dark amber, becoming extremely sweet, compact and syrupy. Very good for the fresh market as well as for drying. Francisco
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Chivas
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Lampo, I love the figs you can grow there, they look very delicious. 08/16/2012 Colisanti Dark Main crop Celeste
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Thank you Chivas for your nice comment.
I am lucky to live in the right region for this fruit and my contribution to the forum is to identify for you the local names illustraded with the corresponding pictures as these varieties become ripe.
Francisco
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Figs of the 'SOFÊNO' variety (black) as I was told. Old and abandoned tree on a country road side in deep valley, getting direct sun light until 4 PM in Summer, then shaded by steep hill on its SW side. All shown figs were taken today from last year's wood. Few fruit, size bellow average, dark violet skin until gaining full ripeness, then blackish. Pulp dark red with many seeds with good flavor, thick but not as juicy as other varieties. It is not a very sweet fig. These are possibly late brebas, this being quite unusual in this type of climate (Hardiness 10+). This tree does show a very limited following crop with fruit still green. Nearest caprifig 3 mile distant. I invite your comments please Francisco
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This has to be my favorite looking fig of all the ones you have posted on the forum. I can only imagine the seed crunch this figs brings which is something i enjoy when eating a fig. I'm off to bed and hope that fig is in my dreams. Thanks Lampo for sharing those pictures.
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They are beauties, Francisco!
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Martin,
Thank you for your nice comments about my post on the so called SOFÊNO black fig. Hope you had a restful sleep.
What I would like to stress in that post is the fact that this particular tree is now producing what seems to be 'off season' brebas. This is quite unusual here. The other consideration is that the variety name I was given does not seem to be correct. I believe this is an imported fig accidentally planted there long ago.Never saw anything similar.
Ruben,
Thank you for your nice words
You encouraging me to post more pics..here they go !
All the best
Francisco
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These are COMMON local figs of the variety 'PRINCESA' Very light flavor, fruity and sweet. Good for salads and light meals, going very well with fresh goat cheese on slices of yellow corn bread. Cheers Francisco
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Variety: PÉROLA or MARTINETE This a COMMON fig native of this district which on some years displays Brebas in small quantities (June). Average size, occasionally displaying quite big figs. Thick skin, showing a variety of colors from brownish chocolate to light bronze/green. Reddish pulp, sweet, very juicy, flavored and very delicious. Typically eaten fresh picked straight from the tree in early morning, and in salads and desserts. As a dessert, traditionally, it goes very well in a family lunch of grilled sardines, 'al fresco', under the shade of an old carob tree. Best wishes Francisco
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Variety: BRAÇAJOTE BRANCO or OLHO DE PASSARINHO or REGALO Common fig, highly productive tree. Average size, round with light ribs green skin, changing to yellowish when over ripe, closed ostiole, short or almost no stalk, pulp blood red, sweet and with a particular perfume. This fig is one of the best for jellies. Francisco
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nelson20vt
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Great pictures Francisco the são luiz figs look allot like figo preto and black Madeira do you have any pictures of the leaves?
Obrigado
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lampo
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Hi Nelson,
Hope everything all right with you.
Thank you for your appreciation. Some people call this fig San Luiz but it is not correct. San Luiz is shaped differently, more turbinate and its pulp is yellowish (straw colored). If you look at the paper written by Manuel Bivar Weinholtz in 1883, he describes the San Luiz fig precisely as it is.
Will try and get leaf shapes for you.
The Violeta fig pictures sent, relate to caprified figs. These figs do not need the wasp, as they are common type, but once they have caprifigs nearby, they get wasp visits which make them firmer, bigger and change the pulp colour to almost blood red. It also make the fruit sweeter and syrupy.
Non caprified Violeta has light red almost orange pulp.
If I may say so, Violeta figs, in many respects are almost similar to Pastillière.
Take care
Francisco
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One more of the heavy weights, variety CASTANHAL. This is a San Pedro type, flavored and juicy, very sweet. Francisco
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08/26/2012 Colisanti #3
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09/01/2012 DiRedo. It has a great seed crunch and if no rain, syrupy sweet, but with even a big of rain it seems to go watery over night. I will have a few more before I decide to kill it or try another year. I didn't like the flavour of any more figs so I killed it, I felt bad for about 5 minutes.
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demonick
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I planted a Desert King and a Violetta in August 2011 and to date have harvested 3 DKs and a single V brebas. Got about 2 more DS and 2 more V brebas coming on. Each tree has about a dozen main crop which are not likely to ripen. Seattle
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Colosanti White (aug 10) Colosanti dark , Grimo BT(not)(probably a celeste) Melanzanna Merdescola (MM) not mm, now an unknown English Brown turkey (looks like another celeste not EBT) Violette de Bordeaux : breba which formed after the main ripened during main ripening period and tasted the same, only the breba were smaller than the main and Oregon prolific/marseilles the unknown red, leafs make it to be a mount etna type Grimo's Natalina. a white italian petite negri EL, taste improved when nights turned cooler. unknown green/yellow.... looks like a kadota, but maybe not since it tastes no where near as bad as glue and a brillo pad, and is the best tasting light coloured fig I have this year. hardy Chicago sept1 lattarulla ripening now, panachee sept 14 sicilian red almost ripe ate last of the white italian today, and one left on both VDB and PN
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Chivas
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Panachee Sept 8, it split bad and needed 5 more days but it tasted like raspberry so I am hopeful for next year.
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September 22 Black Maderia, first fig off the tree, tough skin, rich flavour no picture because we ate it too quickly. If it ripened sooner I imagine it would be much more tasty.
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Hi Not sure if anyone can advise me but i have a mature fig tree I want to move,just wondering if anyone could give me some advice on how to do this Thanks
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Hello MTJ1968,
Please give a bit more detail
How big is it ?..potted or in ground ? Age ? Can you provide pictures ?
Is new location too far from present position ?
This will help to get a clearer picture of your problem and to provide help.
In theory all fig trees, big, small, potted or in ground can be transplanted.
Yours should not be an exception
Size/age will dictate feasibility and best method, steps to achieve it. Some costs may also have to be considered.
Francisco
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Two months ago I had shown my first Bourjassotte Noire (VDS) taken from an isolated small tree in a 4 gal pot (see post #61 on this same subject), following a drastic treatment against an invasion of ants.
Now I am sending these pictures from a much older grounded tree.
This variety, may still be ripening figs well through the month of November and beyond.
From last year season I picked up the last ripe fig (from the potted tree) on January 12th/2012.
Francisco
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Originally Posted by Artfuldodger I'm in Las Vegas, NV and the first harvest of Brown Turkey figs have arrived. June 13th.
Are all brown turkey figs this big?
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Hi everybody! Just want to remind you that I will be selling cuttings this winter as well as potted Fig trees and even bare root ones. My varieties are Italian, Portuguese and Russian origin and grow in Connecticut and give me delicious fruit !! Email me with your any questions .
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This may or may not help anyone but I offer it as general info. I did not list those young figs unless they were ones that showed tremendous growth and produced multiple figs. I normally do not allow my plants to produce until they are 2 or 3 (usually) years old. Obviously this info is going to be different for those in other areas. I offer this as a rough guide to my fig's performance only. This list represents the first ripe fig off the first plant -- I have certain varieties like Negronne (VdB), Cavaliere, the Col de Dames, JH Adriatic, etc. where I have numerous plants. Also there is an age difference as some of these plants are as old as 9 or 10 years and their figs have that advantage. It was also an odd year as the spring was very dark and rainy here in Northern Virginia, zone 7. All my figs are in pots. Ripening Order: August 6th Pananas Purple - ripened only one fig until 9/5 and then produced another 15 8/9 Marseilles Black VS 8/11 Ronde de Bordeaux Celeste Brown Turkey 8/12 Alma LSU Purple 8/16 Hollier Florea LSU Tiger 8/17 Texas Everbearing 8/18 St. Rita 8/19 Scott's Black Gino's Black 8/21 Texas Blue Giant Negronne 8/22 Atreano RR Hardy Chicago 8/26 Monticello Marseilles Vista 8/29 Peter's Honey Blanche de Deux Saisons Petite Abique 8/30 White Paradiso Longue D'Aout 8/31 Lemon Emerald Strawberry 9/1 Cavaliere Bourjasotte Gris LSU Gold 9/2 Binello Zingarella 9/3 Capelas Mahvra Sika Conadria 9/4 Baskinta Purple Sal's Corleone 9/7 St Jerome 9/8 Skardu Black Mary Lane Seedless Battaglia Green Conadria #2 9/9 Green Ischia 9/11 Vicenzo Brunswick 9/12 Brooklyn White 9/14 JH Adriatic 9/15 Col de Dame Blanc Archipel 9/24 Red Lebanese 9/29 Black Greek 10/1 Col de Dame Noir 10/18 Vernino 10/19 Dauphine 10/22 Bissiri Dark The 10 fig's I thought were the best: The order here is random - it just represents the 10 figs that I thought were excellent. Rhonde de Bordeaux Col de Dame B Col de Dame Noir Battaglia Green Longue D'Aout Cavaliere Baskinta Purple Vista White Paradiso Monticello Marseilles Vicenzo Fig Ripening List 2014
103 varieties
8-3
Florea
Brown Turkey
8-5
Lemon
8-6
Ronde de Bordeaux
8-12
LSU Gold
Hardy Chicago
Hollier
8-13
Saint Rita
Celeste
Gino’s
Alma
8-14
Peter’s Honey
8-15
Black Greek
Nero
Dotatto
8-16
Red Sicilian
Zingarella
Smith
Petite Negri
8-17
LSU Tiger
Black Marseilles VS
8-18
Israeli Red UNK
Scott’s Black
8-19
Emerald Strawberry
Texas Blue Giant
Brogiotto Nero
8-20
Capelas
Longue D’Aout
8-21
Lebanese Red
Marseilles Monticello
Fracazzano Bianco
Dauphine UNK
8-23
Salce
Bourjasotte Gris
8-24
Makedonian Dark
Atreano RR
Baskinta Purple
8-25
Takoma Violet
8-26
Egyptian
Improved Celeste
Negronne
Sorbello Red
8-27
Valle Negra
Latarolla
Petite Abique
8-29
Cavaliere
Stella
Conadria
8-30
Fico Branco
Adriatic JH
Blanch de Deux Saisons
8-31
Black Jack
LSU Purple
9-1
Col de Dame Noir
Brooklyn White
St. Jerome
Monticello Mystery Purple
Pananas Purple
Vista
9-2
Paradiso “Gene”
Vicenza
9-3
Camuna Small
9-4
Col de Dame Blanc
Sal’s Corleone
Brooklyn Dark
Abebereira
Battaglia Green
Lange
9-5
UNK #1
Monstueuse
Bisirri Dark
9-6
Mary Lane Seedless
9-8
Nordand
Beale
Enrico
9-11
King
Maltese Beauty
9-13
Archipel aka Osborn Prolific
Maryland Berry
9-21
Green Ischia
9-23
Binello
9-24
Angelique
9-26
Genovese Nero
Marseilles White
9-28
Calvert
10-4
Morena
10-5
Royal Vineyard
10-6
Bremo
Filacciano Bianco
10-7
Macool
10-11
Black Madeira
10-16
Sucrette
10-17
Macool
10-27
Carini
Verdal Longue
10-28
Melanzana
10-29
Preto
10-31
Vernino
11-1
Panachee
11-2
Qalaat al Madiq
Jolly Tiger
11-13
Skardu Black
11-15
LSU Thibidaux
I hope this has some value. mgg
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2014Week of 08.24.14 English Brown Turkey - in potWeek of 08.31.14 Sweet Diana (Unknown) (Most likely Celeste) - in groundWeek of 09.14.14 Maltese Falcon - in pot
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