O'Rourke Improved Celeste Leaf pic.

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xgrndpounder

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Posted 1248881916	Reply with quote #1

Hi everybody, Can someone post a picture of the O'Rourke Improved Celeste leaf? Thanks very much. If you don't want to post the pic please email me the pictures Ok?

xgrndpounder

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Posted 1248899491	Reply with quote #2

Many thanks Dan! I looked and looked, it was right under my nose all the time, Duh

fignut

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Posted 1248986071	Reply with quote #3

Dan, Is the leaf shown for O'Rourke in the press release the same as your O'Rourke's leaves? I got one from Mr. Robin with a completely different leaf than the one shown. Nobody I've communicated with seemd to have a leaf that matches the LSU picture.

xgrndpounder

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Posted 1248987813	Reply with quote #4

I hope to be able to post pictures of the O'Rourke Improved Celeste leafs by the middle of Sept. Time will tell.

genecolin

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Posted 1249074259	Reply with quote #5

When I bought my Improved Celeste I thought it was the one named O'Rourke, that they were one and the same. Seems like I have just an IC and not the O'R. Does anyone sell the O'R with the leaves as shown in the pictures in Dan's link? Does anyone have comparison data on the two different figs? I wouldn't mind growing them side by side to see and compare. __________________ From the bayou, "gene" zone 9 Houma, La.

xgrndpounder

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Posted 1249075205	Reply with quote #6

Gene you have email

2007_giants

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Posted 1249080107	Reply with quote #7

I am also interested in a true O'Rourke are there any sources out there. I read that they were going to be available to a few select nurseries has that taken place yet. If there are any forum members willing I will gladly pay. Please pm me __________________ SAL zone 10b-9b FL PSL growing in pots

fignut

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Posted 1249090203	Reply with quote #8

Given the confusion among fig varieties, I shouldn't be surprised that there are multiple versions of the LSU figs around. But I am. It makes sense, though - these figs went out the back door of LSU and were passed around. There is no way to know if they are really even the same figs that were in the program. It is so easy to make mistakes with cuttings. Everyone else that I've asked about O'Rourke seems to have a leaf that does not match the LSU press release. I don't know of any commercial sources for the O'Rourke LSU pictured. I had gotten some cuttings this year, that had been taken directly from LSU, but they didn't make it - I lost them all before they leafed out. This is the leaf from the plant Mr. Robin has. It is very different from the LSU photo. My plants haven't produced yet.

gorgi

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Posted 1249091512	Reply with quote #9

fignut, I too just got a new (O'R) from JR and so-far the leaf looks like a typical Celeste - not (O'R); most probably another good IC from O'R's Celeste breeding program. __________________ George, NJ_z7a.

2007_giants

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Posted 1249092376	Reply with quote #10

Dan do you know of any commercial sellers of a true O'Rourke or if LSU has a program for obtaining cuttings like UC Davis. __________________ SAL zone 10b-9b FL PSL growing in pots

2007_giants

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Posted 1249166511	Reply with quote #11

"There have been very few new releases of named fig varieties from a public breeding program in the past fifty years. One of the largest benefactors of a new fig release will be tree nurseries in supplying trees to homeowners and hobbyist." Again I am confused. This is a quote from the LSU release what exactly does that mean? Did they or didn't they make these varieties available to nurseries and who has a true O'Rourke other than LSU? 2007 You would think it would be being marketed by now true to cultivator. __________________ SAL zone 10b-9b FL PSL growing in pots

Dieseler

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Posted 1249168325	Reply with quote #12

I do not seek the LSU figs of any sorts but perhaps if one was interested in what was released or not released or any future releses couldn't they somehow contact someone from there that has the information to talk directly too? Just a thought not sure if that would work or not.

2007_giants

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Posted 1249171466	Reply with quote #13

Martin as I am new to fig growing this is very confusing I also read posts about Sal's fig which I still can't fig-ur out. I see some sellers list that they have an I/C or even list it as an O'Rourke, same with the Sal's. I guess what I'm trying to say is I would like to get what I'm paying for and also don't want to put the time and effort into something and later find out I was duped I'm sure you can relate. Also when my trees get large enough I would be interested in trading or what I give away I would like to have proper labeling. I would hate for someone to come back and say this isn't what I traded for. __________________ SAL zone 10b-9b FL PSL growing in pots

Dieseler

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Posted 1249182019	Reply with quote #14

Sal, yes it happens often , i got duped indeed. There are different sals from the now closed Belleclare Nursery i believe 2 types and one from Edible Landscaping and perhaps others called sals. Many members have 1 or more what they call unknowns or mislabeled i have 1 unknown out of 15 total types. It can be frustrating to purchase something other than what you truly wanted. Luckily im done with what i have wanted unless there is one out there that grows money or i get rid of one because of taste or lack of production then i might seek another type. ; )

Bass

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Posted 1249233526	Reply with quote #15

I got a Celeste from Texas that has the same pointy leaves that the O'Rourke has. No fruit on the tree yet. __________________ Pennsylvania http://www.treesofjoy.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/Trees-of-Joy/110193909021138

xgrndpounder

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Posted 1249233749	Reply with quote #16

That is great Bass Keep us updated.

Jackster

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Posted 1249243550	Reply with quote #17

Quote: Originally Posted by Dan_la I know of no current commercial source for the O'Rourke cultivar. Like I stated in an earlier post, many nurseries just assumed that the Improved Celeste that they were marketing was the same as the O'Rourke......and that assumption is not correct. LSU does not have a fig cutting distribution function like UCD. Dan So how do they 'officially' release them? Just commercially?

xgrndpounder

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Posted 1249244843	Reply with quote #18

Good question Jackster, I have literally spent hours searching the web for that answer.

Dieseler

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Posted 1249248665	Reply with quote #19

Here is an article about Ed O'rourke and how fig received his name, the article is 4 paragraphs down the page. Interesting to read i think for those whose interest are in Lsu program. It only a few paragraphs long .

xgrndpounder

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Posted 1249248799	Reply with quote #20

No link Martin

Dieseler

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Posted 1249250273	Reply with quote #21

Im sorry the misses was rushing me off the new fancy do dad machine a quad processor thinghy for her games she plays. Here is link along with another one . Country Roads Online 1 Ed O'Rourke: ZoomInfo Business People Information This nursery list about 4 LSU types including O' rourke but i would call and inquire about first before buying to see where they were obtained first. Click on "FIGS" DURIO NURSERY

xgrndpounder

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Posted 1249251448	Reply with quote #22

Thanks, no apology needed.

xgrndpounder

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Posted 1253460135	Reply with quote #23

Here is the leaf on the Fig I bought from Mr. James Robin as an O'Rourke! http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/file?id=846192 Attached Images O'Rourke_leaf_(Small).JPG (70.02 KB, 129 views)

xgrndpounder

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Posted 1253465423	Reply with quote #24

Yes it is as a matter of fact a very nice plant! And thanks goes to you for the help getting THIS plant!

Figluvah

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Posted 1342105135	Reply with quote #25

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/file?id=846192 Dennis, here is what I posted a few years ago! __________________ Cecil (Z 8b?) in the sticks of E.Tx (Elkhart/Palestine TX)

snaglpus

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Posted 1342106403	Reply with quote #26

Thanks Cecil! Yeap that the true O'Rourke! that's the one I am seeking. I need to go check my trees again....I thought I saw one of those up on the hill under my Deanna fig tree. __________________ Dennis Charlotte, North Carolina/Zone 8a

Figluvah

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Posted 1342106648	Reply with quote #27

Dennis, Back in better days Dan Abadie picked this plant for me, But sadly I managed to kill it along with another one. EDIT...I know how I killed that plant so you can bet I won't be doing that anymore! I am NOT saying ALL of James Robbin's O'Rourke plants look like this one did! __________________ Cecil (Z 8b?) in the sticks of E.Tx (Elkhart/Palestine TX)

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