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pitangadiego

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Posted 1336452734	Reply with quote #1

Stands out in a crowd. __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

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Posted 1336475134	Reply with quote #2

that's nice red stem/branch, red bud also? what is it hybrid of? any fruits so far, or is it really new? i didn't see it on UCD list.. is it something you discovered? pete __________________ Pete Durham, NC Zone 7b "don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher *** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. * * and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...***

gorgi

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Posted 1336479824	Reply with quote #3

Yes, it does "Stand out in a crowd"! I had one a while ago and I do remember my wife asking me "what is that tree"? Very vigorous with HUGE leaves. But sadly, it never produced a single fig for me, and since then, I did get rid of it. Most likely it does require caprification?.... I have seen pictures of the fruit from California, and it does look fabulous! It is hybrid fig: F.carica x F.palmata. __________________ George, NJ_z7a.

pitangadiego

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Posted 1336485234	Reply with quote #4

See Hybrid DFIC0023 Yes, it is from USDA / UC Davis, __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

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Posted 1336487033	Reply with quote #5

that's a very good looking fig.. how did it taste? pete __________________ Pete Durham, NC Zone 7b "don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher *** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. * * and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...***

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Posted 1336487216	Reply with quote #6

The more answers one gives; the more questions one gets.... __________________ George, NJ_z7a.

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Posted 1336487703	Reply with quote #7

sorry about so many questions. the fig looks interesting. pete __________________ Pete Durham, NC Zone 7b "don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher *** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. * * and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...***

gorgi

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Posted 1336487925	Reply with quote #8

Actually Bass did taste this fig (from his web site): http://www.treesofjoy.com/content/sampling-figs-uc-davis-fig-orchard "Very attractive tree. Has a mulberry like leaves, with dark figs. Flavor is really good. May require pollination to produce figs based on growers experience in the North east." __________________ George, NJ_z7a.

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Posted 1336488234	Reply with quote #9

gorgi, thanks. pete __________________ Pete Durham, NC Zone 7b "don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher *** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. * * and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...***

Gina

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Posted 1336489754	Reply with quote #10

Cool looking fig. The younger leaves and stems look as if they might be slightly pubescent. Does anyone know the range or locations of the fig wasp in SoCalifornia? I've tried to find information but I've only seen reference to an area in the San Diego area (Vista) where there are some wild figs growing along streams, suspected pollinations, etc __________________ WillsC's new fig forum: http://www.Ourfigs.com (and blueberries)

Dieseler

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Posted 1336494763	Reply with quote #11

Very ornamental Jon.

snaglpus

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Posted 1336499589	Reply with quote #12

It does stand out in a crowd. The tree at UCD is very tall and was full of very ripe figs last year. See pics below. There were figs all over the ground around the tree. Most were sour by the time we got there. Tasted like wine. I love the leaf pattern. Maybe this year we can taste some good ones. Also, it oozes red honey from the eye when ripe and it produces a lot of figs! Enjoy the pics! Cheers! Attached Images IMGP0096_1.jpg (997.44 KB, 134 views) IMGP0097_1.jpg (999.61 KB, 127 views) IMGP0098_1.jpg (996.77 KB, 168 views) IMGP0095_1.jpg (999.93 KB, 132 views) IMGP0099_1.jpg (996.27 KB, 95 views) IMGP0100_1.jpg (998.49 KB, 142 views) __________________ Dennis Charlotte, North Carolina/Zone 8a

Chivas

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Posted 1336511235	Reply with quote #13

I hope everyone is wrong that it needs the wasp, it looks like an excellent fig to have. __________________ Canada Zone 6B

Bass

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Posted 1336514876	Reply with quote #14

Yes this tree is the prettiest fig tree at UCdavis orchard. The leaves are light green and the dark fruit make it stand out. Taste is a a bit different than common figs more, Dennis described it as wine flavor. Breeders should try using this hybrid to produce a self fertile variety. Here's an earlier post. http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/prettiest-fig-tree-at-uc-davis-4862584?highlight=hybrid __________________ Pennsylvania http://www.treesofjoy.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/Trees-of-Joy/110193909021138

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Posted 1336515912	Reply with quote #15

Even if it doesn't produce, it would make a beautiful ornamental. Much nicer than the pyracantha I recently dug out. __________________ Dave Verde Valley, AZ Zone 8

rafed

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Posted 1336516060	Reply with quote #16

Mine is about four ft tall now but not branching. Which reminds me to start an air layer for Gene. I almost forgot. Hopefully it doesn't need a wasp. That would be a heart breaker.

hoosierbanana

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Posted 1336519963	Reply with quote #17

Jon, could you please take this gal and Vashon (or some other persisent caprifig) up to "lookout point" and let things take their natural course ; ) I would really like some of those seeds. I could grow hundreds and sell the undesirable fruiters as landscape plants. __________________ 7a, DE

pitangadiego

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Posted 1336542177	Reply with quote #18

Maybe I can pick up some seeds this summer. __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

hoosierbanana

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Posted 1336570887	Reply with quote #19

That would be great. Hybrid seed is actually quite valuable, some tomatoes and sunflowers cost close to a dollar each when buying small packets. I can send you some insect barrier if you have any trouble finding it. __________________ 7a, DE

pitangadiego

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Posted 1336571592	Reply with quote #20

That's good to know. I can price your seeds accordingly? __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

hoosierbanana

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Posted 1336603971	Reply with quote #21

Well, it is less work for you than hand pollinating tomatoes, but these figs seeds are as rare as it gets, although demand seems to be fairly low. So I would be willing to pay up to $40 for one figs worth of seeds (could be thousands of seeds right?), provided the germ test is good and you are sure of the parentage in the cross. Fig seeds could be even more dubious than cuttings, with the added time to fruition and everything. So I think it is worth it to pay a fair price for the peace of mind and get them from someone who is reliable. I trade wooden bowls and spoons as well, they are nice, if you are interested... __________________ 7a, DE

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Posted 1336610495	Reply with quote #22

I am interested in some of those seeds myself, it just sounds like you might be able to find something really great, with a lot of work but still it definitely seems worthwhile. __________________ Canada Zone 6B

pitangadiego

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Posted 1336619270	Reply with quote #23

I should be able to snag some fruit when I visit USDA / UC Davis this summer. So those who are interested in seeds - e-mail me with "DFIC0023" in the subject line. Cannot guarantee parentage, on the male side of the cross. Cannot guarantee pollination/germination, but should be able to send them for a lot less than $40. __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

Rob

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Posted 1336619768	Reply with quote #24

Any idea of the probability of such a seed growing into a tree that does not need the fig wasp to produce and mature fruit? __________________ Rob Maryland Zone 7 http://rbfigs.webs.com/

hoosierbanana

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Posted 1336626041	Reply with quote #25

Sorry, I thought you had a fruiting tree there. Ensuring parentage is pretty simple, it involves putting a sock made of insect barrier/row cover over the mother branch once main crop figs form to prevent unwanted pollination, and then adding ripening brebas from the selected male into the enclosure so the wasps can do their jobs. Do you think I could talk the nice folks at Davis into giving it a whirl? I will sew them some socks myself. __________________ 7a, DE

rafed

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Posted 1336675209	Reply with quote #26

Jon, This is the one you sent me. It is approx. 4ft tall. The branches you see are all new growth. The rest of the tree is all bare stem. Attached Images photo_(47).JPG (195.82 KB, 90 views)

Dieseler

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Posted 1336680481	Reply with quote #27

That red color kinda reminds me of one of my plants just not as dramatic there beautiful. Except in mine the color wanes near end of season.

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Posted 1336684747	Reply with quote #28

Martin, If the one you are speaking of starts with an "N" then I have that too. LOL

pitangadiego

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Posted 1336709514	Reply with quote #29

Hoosier, UC Davis will do that for you (they have the "socks") for a fee (not known to me). They do research for the fig growers coop, etc, for a fee. Rob, I have to assume so, if common, smyrna and san pedro types all have a common ancestor. I have common figs, here, and seedlings from them seem to be both common, smyrna, and possibly san pedro types. I seem to remember that the various types are somewhat distributed over the genetic tree that USDA / UC Davis developed. __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

cheahafig

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Posted 1336711306	Reply with quote #30

The leaves remind me of a Portugese fig. Jon, have you had any luck growing fig from seed? __________________ Donald A.Beck

hoosierbanana

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Posted 1336717763	Reply with quote #31

Thanks. I will look into that. __________________ 7a, DE

pitangadiego

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Posted 1336743829	Reply with quote #32

Yes, I have several seedlings picked from among the hundreds/thousands that come up voluntarily each year in my yard. Raspberry Latte and Encanto are 2 examples. __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

texascockatoos

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Posted 1338239839	Reply with quote #33

I read the post from Bass last year and added DFIC0023 to my UC Davis order last year and got 3 cuttings. Here is the link that shows they are available for distribution. http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/acc/display.pl?1000850 Below are pictures of the cuttings that are just getting started but seem to do very well here in Texas. It's pretty enough I don't care if it produces fruit or now but will keep everyone posted, as this one will be staying on our property providing shade for the tortoises (in a couple of years). __________________ Cathy Central, Texas (Zone 8A) http://www.texascockatoos.com

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Posted 1338240158	Reply with quote #34

They're beautiful, Cathy. Please keep us updated on their progress. __________________ Dave Verde Valley, AZ Zone 8

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Posted 1338240627	Reply with quote #35

i might order it just for the ornamental purpose. the tree looks very attractive. pete __________________ Pete Durham, NC Zone 7b "don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher *** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. * * and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...***

noss

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Posted 1338264408	Reply with quote #36

By the photos, that fig looks beautiful in color. It almost looks like it's dark blue/purple. Is it? noss __________________ noss/a.k.a. Vivian Lafayette, LA Zone 9a Wish List: Col de Dame Blanc, Col de Dame Noir, Scott's Yellow, Tony's Brown Italian, any other fig that is good in the rain/humidity and has a real figgy flavor.

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Posted 1364871062	Reply with quote #37

I ordered cuttings and stuck this in a 4x12 treepot about two years ago and finally decided to up pot it so that I can plant it out in my orchard in a couple of months. Mine doesn't have red growth on it but it's been in the shade house until taking this photo. __________________ Harvey - Correia Farms Isleton, CA (Sacramento County) USDA zone 9b, Sunset zone 14 http://www.figaholics.com https://www.facebook.com/Figaholics

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Posted 1364944315	Reply with quote #38

Here is the one I have. I got it it was labeled (wrong) as Adriatic. It gets loaded with figlets and then they dry up and fall off. Mike http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=16h52j8&s=6

pitangadiego

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Posted 1364965968	Reply with quote #39

Do not know if it needs caprification. Tree is utterly overloaded at USDA/UC Davis WEO orchard. My first batch of seeds had very low germination rate, which could indicate that it does not need caprification. __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

snaglpus

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Posted 1364997753	Reply with quote #40

It is definately one huge tree at UCD. So those growing this tree can expect one giant tree. Jon, I think your Encanto fig is another excellent looking tree similar to this one, very different leaf pattern but excellent tasting fig. Encanto figs looks like black figs on a fish hook hanging from a tree. Ha! __________________ Dennis Charlotte, North Carolina/Zone 8a

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Posted 1365090231	Reply with quote #41

Is this HAVA variety? __________________ Eli ,Israel ,Zone 10? Too humid and hot, yada yada yada https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1298814119 Growing: Sbayi, Hmadi, Black Portugal, Black Brazil,Excell, Flanders, Hmari , RDB, Niagra Black,Natalina, CDDN,Maya, Preto Torres, Preto Arge

oldvt

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Posted 1365133023	Reply with quote #42

Hi I just started 7 little cutting from this tree , I may have extras when ready. Rex __________________ Looking to trade an IT 258 for basses Red Leb or a O Rourke for a Hunt.

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