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This is a great fig. And still getting better. It has a nice amount of acid along with the sweetness which makes it perky.
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I also had a couple of figs out of a Calvert I got from UCDAVis,and later died of nematodes in the pot.
I remember it had a very good Flavor strawberry flavor in my opinion.
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Hi,

By acid, do you mean that resin taste that people mention, or acid like a tart berry?

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Tart.
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my worst growing fig.  Never has produced a fig, rooted from Davis.  First 2 years growth was very poor, with FMV.  last 3 years has grown better, but still no figs.

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Hello just wondering if everyone can share there experience with this fig?How do you think this fig would do here in Michigan?Is it productive?Just by looking at Jon's picture I can taste the fig so I know it's a very tasty fig That's for sure.I'm pretty sure everyone knows my next ? Who has one for sale LOL?Thank You.
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This is very rare,because it is so hard to keep alive (when young)outside California,as Chills,and I found out the hard way!.
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Thanks for sharing Herman.
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It does look beautiful, doesn't it?  http://figs4fun.com/Thumbnail_Calvert.html

I picked up cuttings from UCD this year.  Hoping for the best.  Don't normally like light colored figs, but it does indeed look tasty.
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Jon,

What can you tell us about the leaf characteristics of your specimen? According to Condit and the UCD DNA report from last summer, Verte and Calvert are synonyms. Do you agree? Apparently, yours looks a bit different than mine due to caprification (Condit). Thanks!


 

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Just wondering has anyone found out if Verte and Calvert are similar figs?Also anyone have Calvert for sale?Thank You.
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Rob,

Doesn't that fig look scrumptious and juicy?

Could Calvert mean California Green by any chance, or am I just way off?

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Very very scrumptious and juicy Noss.
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Hey  Chills,
Any chance a fellow Michigan fignut could get a Calvert cutting or rooted shoot from your plant?Thanks
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Does anyone know how long Calvert has been around? Or the origins?
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Welcome to the forum, Teratologist! Here's what Condit had to say about Calvert: "A variety labeled Calvert, briefly described by Close (1933), was received in 1929 from the Angleton, Texas, station, numbered 8,370. This has proved to be identical with Verte at Riverside, and both are very similar to Col de Dame."
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Very similar to Col de Dame?,
I had both and i can tell you,they are not very similar.
Yes they are both good tasting with good flavor,but it ends there.
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Herman,

 

I think if you compare this side-by-side analysis extracted from Condit's descriptions of both you can easily see why he thought they were "very similar". He didn't say identical. Notice that subjective findings such as flavor are omitted. In his publication, and in this forum, I think we all take descriptions of flavor with a grain of salt since one man's pig fodder is another man's delicacy and vice versa.

 

LEAVES LOBES SINUSES-UPPER SINUSES-LOWER FRUIT (MAIN) STALK RIBS EYE 3 EATEN
VARIETY TRUNKS TIPS SIZE SHEEN TEXTURE MARGINS BASE COUNT SHAPE DEPTH WIDTH DEPTH WIDTH BREBA? LENGTH DIA SHAPE WEIGHT SKIN PULP SEEDS? SHAPE LENGTH WIDTH RAISED? SIZE OPEN? SOURCE FRESH PRESERV DRIED
COL DE DAME-BLANC/COL DE DAMMA/COLLAR OF LADY-WHITE--VERTE? NO   GRN MED GLOSSY ROUGH CRE SUBCOR-TRU 3-5   DEEP   SHALLOW   RARE 2.25 2 PYR-SPH 41 YEL/GRN-YEL STR FEW   SHORT BROAD SLIGHT LRG YES 2, 14      
VERTE/ ISCHIA GREEN/ VERDALLE/STRAWBERRY VERTE--COL DE DAME? NO     SML-MED GLOSSY   CRE SUBCOR/TRU 0-3   SHALLO       RARE     TURB/PYR 40 GRN STR     1/4 NARROW MOD SML YES 2, 3, 8      
                                                               

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It is different in many ways,not only how is described as different in this table.
When you grow them in adverse climatic conditions ,many other different adaptation or non adaptation will be found.
If they really wanted to study fig behavior and adaptations limits they should have made the Orchard location in a colder more challenging northern location,and then they would have found and separate the men from the boys.
In Sunny hot central Ca, Most cultivars makes acceptable good fruits.
On The other hand any fig tree that makes good acceptable ,high quality fruits in NY, will make twice as good fruits in ideal climatic condition.

!!!!And By the way to all that are really interested in Calvert:!!!
Brothers:Calvert is the former Adriatic JH,and it is what Adriatic Jh turned in after it was grafted for trial on UCD tree,and got a shot of those viruses in it's body.
It is a waste of time and money trying to grow it in adverse condition,because it is too diseased to make it.So You want,a healthy Calvert that will grow almost anywhere?
Get an Adriatic JH!
In fact Calvert is infected with the same cocktail of viruses that Ischia Black has.
Adriatic JH is the clean variant found in Texas,by Joe Hood,the same place of origine that Calvert was received by the Germaplasm repository.
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I have to agree with you there, Herman. My guess would be that they chose California because it was likely the only state that could sustain the caprifig wasp. Even if that is true, the pollination of the fig represents a significant enough variation in fruit size, color, shape and flavor to render their findings highly unreliable to the rest of the country. Condit himself acknowledges that many varietals are better because of caprification and worse because of location. They (the federal government) should have established a counterpart to the UCD/UCR in a suitable caprificationless state so the rest of us can see how the varieties would perform for us. Would probably have prevented a great deal of the synonomy confusion.
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Ruben:A northern reaserch station is possible in California Too.
I have seen ,northern California,way up north at the Border with Oregon,where one can see Shasta Mountain,and there is a river out there that run north to south,or south to north(I am not sure,as it is a long time ago),but I will never forget the highway way up high the rail way lower and the river all the way down in the canyon.
And the Boulders in the River were larger than an eighteen wheeler.
It is magnificent out in Northern California.
I had a chance to see it as I was a truck Driver in those times,but otherwise I could never afford it as a turist.
Sorry about talking too much,but I wanted to  bring into the disscussion that I also  drove there during Winter and I can tell you they have real Winter at the Border with Oregon.
So that will have been abn area to test fig trees not Central Ca.
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Herman, you're talking about the Klamath River. That is, indeed, purty country and it is chilly in the winter. There's not much of a population much less a university presence in that part of California though, so establishing a research station in that neck of woods was and is impractical. It would serve our purposes better if there were, though. Reno is pretty similar climatically, though it's at twice the elevation and receives 1/3 the annual precipitation. At least you have Geneva, NY even if they don't do figs. Sadly, I'm mostly out here on my own when it comes to figuring out how things will grow in this climate. This has led to a lot of dead trees, though that's probably more my fault than it is a lack of growing info in my climate.

On topic, I've got Adriatic JH (rooted this spring and growing great), Col de Dame Blanch and Ischia Green (both in their third leaf and fruiting this year), so I'm pretty excited to see how these will ultimately do in my climate.

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