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Grasa

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On Nov. 15 - I pulled some roots of my tree and grafted them on 4 cuttings I received. Some I planted right away in cups, others are still attached to the roots, but in the rooting box chamber.

This amazing Bryant  took off in a way that is remarkable for a 6 day!   The other Bryant sibblings are still in the chamber!   Anyway, I thought you guys would like to see this.. I plan on open it very careful when it is time to move to a larger pot and undo the rubber band I have in there securing that root.

The cutting became a lot greener and the tip just want to open up...

I am so excited about this! 

the other cuttings with root graft I have in the box are showing signs of more roots in the root than in the attached cutting (should I show that picture?)

updated pictures day 3 -

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It looks great. So it seems you didn't graft the root to the bottom of the cutting, but to the midsection?
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about 1/3 of  cutting, I consider to put 2/3 of it in the soil, so the implant of the root was in that middle are of where the soil would be! I did at the very bottom in others, but didnot plant them yet I am watching them, I wanted to compare. Just have to repeat the experiment to see, but this is pretty amazing, if stays alive. 
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Wow Grasa!  How do you know how to do this stuff?  Why bother rooting when you can graft!  I wasted all those roots I left in that cup trying to get out that one little cutting, which, by the way, hasn't died yet!

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Suzi, this is one time, do not take as the norm!  I will continue fooling w/ this, but in 6 days, that is priceless, isn't?  I am digging more from my large tree and doing on more of the sibblings, as noted, some are tkinh their time showing me their callouses.
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The lesson i learned, is that we should take pictures od the cuttings upon their arrival, for comparisson. looking at the first picture, 6 days ago- no green there... I just cannot get over this!
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I may be wrong but that root looks dead to me . There is no knew white growth on the root , and all the fine parts of the root look shrivelled .
What leads you to believe it is working ?
It may just be a cutting doing its thing on its own .
It's a cool idea if it works .

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John, I believe the root is very much alive because I dug it up from my garden just few minutes before I grafted, the tree has almost a foot of mulching of wood chips.  Also, I did not planted them all, today I am preparing to plant one similar graft - the root is very healthy it has whitish points and has more crusting tips for more roots, these were in the moss box, but wrapped in newspaper.  I believe if it was in dirt, the root would be bigger.  Only time will tell. You could be right. the cutting could be doing what cuttings do. (however, its sibblings are not doing the same).

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Well I wish you luck Grasa and keep us updated . It's definitely worth a try .

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Great idea!  Hope it works really well!
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Since a lot of nursery stock are grafted on to root stock, I don't see why it wouldn't work.  It does have me thinking though....................  

I read on a nursery website for figs that LSU Purple is RKN resistant (or something like that).  I wonder how other cultivars would grow using either the LSU Purple rootstock or perhaps a root stock that is hardy in the north could possibly have a graft of a more southern grown fig on it.

Has anyone tried anything like this??
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Good luck Grasa..... very inspire ...
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updated pictures day 3 - showing remarkable fat roots and green growth
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If that's a fig growing you'll want to snap it off.  But be sure 1 way or the other before you do anything.  :)
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Jo-Ann,

I was thinking exactly the same as you.  James has warned me of possible RKN issues here in the Houston area.  I'm planting some trees to see how they do.  If I'm plagued with nematodes my plan was to use (well, try) the LSU RKN resistant variety as root stock then graft onto it.  Come to think of it I might plant a tree this spring just in case so I will have at least one mature tree to graft onto in case of trouble.

Just checked Dalton's website, you've got a good memory, LSU Purple it is......."'LSU Purple' is highly resistant to leaf diseases and nematodes."
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I am hopeful that the well grown varieties will support the newbies I am starting.  I know my tree does well, so I am starting many others from it, for that purpose...  In a year or so, we will find out what works... I did a few late fall grafting in my tree  ( I planted Adriatic and Desert king)  and a couple of unknowns.  2 look very alive..the others don't look dead, but does not seem to have done anything. Knowing that time of the year was wrong, it will be super amazing if they survive. I plan on doing the same in the beginning of spring. I removed some pretty large trunks, so there will be plenty of room to do the grafts.   it is so cold and wet here...

UPDATE PICTURES:

two more cups moved and I opened them carefully to see where the massive roots were from the graft... the root joint looks great and seems fine, now to the bigger container they go.  I have to repeat this experiment to really brag about... still exciting...

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