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I may finally get to try the ever-popular RdB.  Organza bags were placed on these this evening.

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Not sure if birds can smell, but rats and voles and other critters can.  The bags have been chewed through every time.  Maybe we have more critters than you.  Fingers Crossed yours work!

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Looks good Frank. 
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Originally Posted by DesertDance
Not sure if birds can smell, but rats and voles and other critters can.  The bags have been chewed through every time.  Maybe we have more critters than you.  Fingers Crossed yours work!

Suzi


Thanks Suzi.  After reading about all the troubles you've had with critters, I'm a bit paranoid now.  ;)
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I think the problem with critters has been made much worse in our severe drought. There just isn't much of anything out there for them to eat - besides the garden - so the poor things have been eating more than usual. I haven't even had to do the usual weeding cuz 'they' are eating everything! 
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hiya, frank,
if only your fruit is threatened, consider yourself lucky. something more than bunnies has been at my trees. leaves, fruit n branches up to 16 1/2'' from the ground have been savaged.

today, i encircled all my trees with cylinders of hardware cloth, 2' high. i'm hoping that works.

i built a 6' high wooden fence around my trees. i had the silly idea this would protect them. yeah, deer can't get in, but smaller vermin can.

good luck with your bags.
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i was told that if i couldn't deal with fmv, i should grow peaches, so i got a peach tree to live with my clean figs.
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I wipe my bags across my sweaty skin in hopes the animals will be worried.  So far I haven't had any losses...
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male urine is supposed to be a deterrent. 
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wish list:  nothing. i can't grow cuttings  . right now, i have  6 trees showing no signs of fmv. i'd like to keep it that way' 

i was told that if i couldn't deal with fmv, i should grow peaches, so i got a peach tree to live with my clean figs.
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Susie that's terrible.  I hope your efforts are rewarded.

Bob, that's actually a good idea.  I've heard human hair is also a good deterrent.
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Like Susie said. Take a wiz on a nearby fencepost. Just make sure it's dark out if your in the city ;)
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This post is day 2 of using organza bags. The owl I put up a few days later is helping more. The squarell got it hung up on top of the fence. I've found at least 11 bags out of 48 on the ground torn apart. The animals just loved the gift wrapping. Since the owl, I've only had one more lost fig... that I know of.

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James,

Thanks for keeping me aware.  Luckily, I've never seen a squirrel on my deck.  Birds on the other hand are always around the deck.  My only known threat right now is ants and other little bugs.
As for the in-ground trees, I have caging around most of them and that seems to help with the rabbits, but I've seen birds within the cage.  I'll be covering these with bird netting as the figs get into the ripening stage.
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I had my 1st Bourjassotte Noire ripening nicely the other day so I netted a portion of the tree.

Next morning completely gone. I've watched squirrels scamper away along the top of our chain link fence with a fig in mouth.
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i got a haveahart. put it out monday. the vermin stole the bait. did it different last nite. right now there's a great big animal in it.

as soon as i finish my coffee, i'll get dressed in heavy clothes, get the gun, n go eliminate the evil thing.
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i was told that if i couldn't deal with fmv, i should grow peaches, so i got a peach tree to live with my clean figs.
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You crack me up Susie.  Hopefully you'll have eliminated the primary source of your problems.  :)
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Looking forward to your vermin report, Suzie :)
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Ironic that you're using the haveahart trap but then using your gun anyway.
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i think it's unethical to move vermin to someplace they can bother other people.  the haveahart philosophy sucks.

THERE WERE  TWO RATS IN THE TRAP. !!!

 in heavy winter clothes to protect from plague carrying fleas, i carried them far from the house.  shot both.

unfortunately neither looked big enow to chew of a fig branch that was 16 1/2'' from  the ground.

the war goes on.
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i was told that if i couldn't deal with fmv, i should grow peaches, so i got a peach tree to live with my clean figs.
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if i saw someone with a haveahart trap releasing something in my area, i'd get the gun.

guess who i'd shoot.
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i was told that if i couldn't deal with fmv, i should grow peaches, so i got a peach tree to live with my clean figs.
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Originally Posted by susieqz

unfortunately neither looked big enow to chew of a fig branch that was 16 1/2'' from  the ground.



You don't think the rats can climb?

What did you use for bait for the vermin?
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they like peanut butter. the first nite i just spread some on some tinfoil n set it behind the trigger plate. they just came n  ate it without tripping the trap.

yesterday i put peanut butter in the toe of some pantyhose,  tied that to the top of the cage. i figured they'd have to mess around to get it. they did, n got trapped.

everything likes peanut butter.
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i was told that if i couldn't deal with fmv, i should grow peaches, so i got a peach tree to live with my clean figs.
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I'm with Susie about the release philosophy.  Besides, I released a raccoon once about 15 years ago and it scared me to death!  I might have second thoughts about a cotton tail rabbit, though, since they're so cute.  I shot one once and felt bad.

I was at Wolfskill yesterday and did not see one fruit damaged by a bird or other critter.  I think everyone just needs to plant a lot more figs! :)  Or maybe the birds are eating grapes or other fruits instead?
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thank you harvey. do city people think no one lives in the country? if it's too nasty to live near you, it's too nasty to live by us.

 RELEASING THESE THINGS IN THE COUNTRY IS WRONG !

by the way, cute little bunnies cost me $150 in new honeysuckles, wisteria, virginia creeper, plus damaged low branches on my figs.

i bot the haveahart because i didn't know what was attacking my figs, plus i don't know how to run traps.

upon reflection, i should have released those rats in some nice suburban neighborhood.
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i was told that if i couldn't deal with fmv, i should grow peaches, so i got a peach tree to live with my clean figs.
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I found that at night time the LED cheap motion detection solar lights work much better than the organza bags.
That's when the rats hunt. They do not like the light
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i just now realized that lights aren't enow. if they get in my garden, they might get in my house. mice sometimes do. i actually scream  when i see a mouse. i'd probably have to move if i saw a rat inside. i'll keep killing them.
 
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wish list:  nothing. i can't grow cuttings  . right now, i have  6 trees showing no signs of fmv. i'd like to keep it that way' 

i was told that if i couldn't deal with fmv, i should grow peaches, so i got a peach tree to live with my clean figs.
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Susie,
I absolutely agree with you! Killing them is the only option.
But, the lights will protect your figs while the traps protect your house.
They serve a slightly different purpose.
I found that the traps under my fig tree are no longer effective after one rat escaped, they learn very fast, smart bastards :(
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thank you green. i need this trap to keep working. i think there's a momma out their making babies.  i gotta get her.
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wish list:  nothing. i can't grow cuttings  . right now, i have  6 trees showing no signs of fmv. i'd like to keep it that way' 

i was told that if i couldn't deal with fmv, i should grow peaches, so i got a peach tree to live with my clean figs.
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Hi Susieqz,
Next time use the ole way : Bucket full of water ( or river if you have one passing by ), and everything in the water trap and rats , after 2 minutes they are done ...

@greenfig: buy a small pot of koïfish sticks. and bait with that... You'll have a lot more of success !
When a rat gets used to your baits, just use another type of baits . Use gloves or hands washed in dirt when manipulating the traps.

I just found an hole near my cherry-tree ... The Puttange trap is already waiting ...

IMO, releasing is just like throwing a boomerang ... Watch-out sometimes they strike back at you ... So probably, not the best solution.
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It doesn't bother me if you want to shoot them, I just think it's funny that they made this trap and called it havaheart because they thought people would use to trap and then call someone to come get the animal and relocate it.  Then you get the trap and shoot the critters.  Kinda ironic given the name of the thing, I thought, that's all :)
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 water is a great idea jds. plus i didn't know you had to switch baits.

 rob, no problem. i just get upset with city people thinking it's fine to dump vermin in the country.
this country has been settled.there is no place you can release cute little woodland creatures where they or their off spring won't bother someone. we have trees n gardens just like you. we fight to protect them.

people who relocate animals to the country are treating us like enemies. or, we just don't matter because we  don't live in the suburbs.

our gardens, our trees matter to us.
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wish list:  nothing. i can't grow cuttings  . right now, i have  6 trees showing no signs of fmv. i'd like to keep it that way' 

i was told that if i couldn't deal with fmv, i should grow peaches, so i got a peach tree to live with my clean figs.
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Yesterday evening I saw my first swollen and nearly fully ripened Chicago Hardy fig purchased from Lowes for 10.98 in April of 2014.

I did what any desperate fig lover would do. I thought of all of the night creatures that have eaten of my harvest recently and I picked up my little tree and sat it safely inside the house. 

This morning, I cautiously brought it back out but could not bear leaving it alone and risking the squirell's daily harvesting in my garden so I gave the single fig a little squeeze and picked it hoping that it would be at least a little ripe. 

It was wonderful. The kids and I ate the one fig and I'm very pleased with my decision to pick it early. 

Yum. It was fresh and had that little zippy acidity that got me loving figs in the first place. 
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congrats, chips. i stillhaven't tasted my HC.
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i was told that if i couldn't deal with fmv, i should grow peaches, so i got a peach tree to live with my clean figs.
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Thanks Suzie,
It is worth the wait. I hope that you get to try it soon.

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Two were consumed today.  No harm done, thankfully.  I just dedicated a new thread to them if you want more info:  http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/my-first-taste-of-rdb-today-with-pictures-7047147?pid=1283998054#post1283998054
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I was reading up on these . most seemed to think the green or white were best . a cpl were trying silver but didn't hear if those were good

I orded some green ones . does anyone have any new info or opinions to sharre
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I use a white and a yellow, both work good when the squirrels don't take the whole bag I now tie the the string around the branch after I secure it around the fig seems to help. 
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I have used green, red and bright blue. I like the blue as they help find the figs I bagged. Only downside has been that coyotes and crows take the bag and fig, and all, but the is not a frequent issue. I love them for use on small plants where i don't want to net the whole plant. Color doesn't seem to matter at my location.
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I love em . The green ones( moss green) are so effective that we are having a hard time finding the figs. I also tie them around the branch. 100% success so far so... $2.16 for 30 bags( 3.5x4 inches) . The assorted colors were a lot cheaper but I only wanted colors that would fool the birds. Not red, purple or anything that would make the figs stand out even more! Good buy.

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I need advice?what size organza begs to order?
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I use 5x7 inches
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It depends if your tree is in ground and gives bigger fruit or potted.

For me in pots 9cm over 12 cm is perfect, and its OK for the bigger fruit like black Portugal and apricots.
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