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I took some single node cutting that were left from trimming other cuttings, and planted the, about 16-20 pieces per container (1/2 gallon water jug). Now, about 10 months later, there are about a dozen left. I didn't put too much effort into these, just planted them and kept the in the greenhouse and watered them once in a while.



Here are some of the results, after removing them from their "pot".









And this one which ended up being not much more than a node, when most of the cuttings apparently rotted away.





So it does work, and with more care and attention, probably would have a respectable success ratio, as well. I have another batch started this season, just for the experience, but this time I kept track of the variety, so they will be usable. The ones from last year are in the trash (I don't need any more unknowns) except for a couple that I am going to grow out to see how they perform, growth wise.
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Good to see nothing goes to waste.
Are those an inch or so pieces?

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More like 1-1/2".
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O.K. Jon
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Waw, Hurray.
Canada got an overtime ONE GOAL wonder a few moments ago winning the Olympic Ice Hockey Gold Medal and a shining silver medal for the US  Hockey team.
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LOL Akram, i was watching also.  good game!  i guess y'all wanted it more than us!  ;)
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Yes, Jason, it was a good game but not for ones with weak hearts and more so when it went overtime.
My grand son called me from another part of the city watching the game on a big screen in a hockey arena telling me how happy he was when the puck went in the net!
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Funny about the Olympics... I am always happy for whoever wins. Doesn't seem to be as much team loyalty for me for some reason.

Back to the topic... I got a Red Gold node to root once. I don't have any pictures, but was really surprised that it rooted--it was just the node with about 1/2" of cutting on either side of it. I planted it on it's side and it rooted. It's about 5' tall now.
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I have four nodes planted.
Theyare Atreano cuttings from Texas.
They were pretty black and moldy by the time I received them. 
I had to keep cutting back till there was some green left. 

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I never tried to root something so small but it looks like fun.

Akram, i grew up watching Hockey as was the oddball here because it was and is my favorite sport.
It was wierd this time around though as chicago blackhawks had players on both teams, course our best blackhawks pair of defenseman played for team Canada as a pair on the ice darn it  ; )
Also Johnathan scored a goal for team Canada and Kane got an assit for USA.Overall i was happy with the way both teams played and glad that our North American neighbors CANADA who started the sport and  has the most championships out of any sport deserved to win as they outplayed USA but not by to much thankfully.
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I am so glad it didn't go to a Shoot Out, my heart couldn't take it!!
Well talk later, going to watch the final ceramonies!!

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I have a MBVS that's a single node stick almost 3" long, it's not fully closed, open on one end, with a node on the other end.  I didn't even realize this till the other day, I thought it was a fully closed cutting, node on each side.

After wondering what the heck it was doing, I unpotted slowly let the topmost of the material fall out other day.  When I got near the node end of the shoot, I saw there were both roots AND the shoot, which was entirely white from being buried, all were on the bottom 4mm or so of the cutting.

I planted it vertically in a new pot (roots were strong enough to handle it), because there was no really good way to plant horizontally.  It hasn't died back yet, it's actually looking OK.  Curious to see how it does in the long run.
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Here are some of the one node cuttings started this year, and about 7 weeks old.



Didn't have any clear pony pack containers, so don't know what the roots are doing, yet. 8 of 12 are showing shoot development - some obviously further along. These are all Saratoga (AKA Chico Strawberry).
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Hey Jon what mix are you using looks like little rocks?
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I was also wondering about this mix (rock or big perlite looking stuff) in another picture (greenhouse post).


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It is Perlite, maybe 1/8" to 3/16" diameter particles. The larger particles (which are visible) tend to float to the surface, and the finer one sink to the bottom. "Float" is a relative term. It is about 10-15% compost.

The cuttings are 3/8  to 1/2" in diameter.
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I just wanted to add to this thread to keep one-node success story posts in the same place.

I managed to get this one-node hunk to root recently.  It had no clear nodes on either side - the "line" of the node was mostly cut-through around each end, and the pith was also exposed on each end of the cutting. 

I didn't think it would be possible, but it has rooted.  There are a massive swell of roots on the same side with the green shoot, in fact, you can see one of them laying on top of the soil in the picture.  There is another just a few millimeters away.  I keep piling up soil on that side to get the roots to grow, and once the shoot is 3"-4" long, I will repot in a larger container, burying most of the stem.

I would normally never save or try to root a cutting like this, but it was a very kind gift that I wasn't willing to toss out.

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After reading this old thread, I was wondering if anyone else had any success stories with rooting 'one node wonders'. Any further reports about how any the above cuttings turned out?

 

I know most people suggest using a 6-8" length for cuttings, but wondered if that was just unquestioned tradition, or what actually works best. After seeing these one node, and mention elsewhere of 2 node successfully rooted cuttings, has anyone tried to root more their cuttings at 3 and 4 inches instead of the conventional longer ones?

 

I've also seen mention somewhere (don't remember) that if scion wood is of something uncommon, or if there isn't ample material, that one might try cutting it in half to double your chance for roots. But if cutting scarce material in half is doubling the chance for success, why don't people cut all their 8" cuttings in half? 

 

 
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I gave away two Marseilles Black (VS) to forum members that were grown from 1-2 node cuttings, and my personal 6' tall 1.5" thick trunked MBVS came from a 2" long 1-node cutting as well.
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I use this method as a backup in case all else fails. (I mess up). If I receive cuttings that are eight to ten inches long I cut the bottom node off, fill a pot half way full with rooting material, place the one node in on its side and cover with an inch of additional rooting material. Water one time and leave this pot outside in the shade. It takes a while and I only have about a 50% success rate but this has saved me more than once. One type of unknown Italian that I have likes this method best.
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So are you selling those Saratogas?
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One question, will a tree grown from a 1'' cutting grow as well or as fast as one produced from a 6'' cutting. or is there no dif once roots and shoots form.
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My experience is that they grow more slowly.
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I have one growing like crazy.  Have no idea what it is, but when I switched from Sphagnum Peat to Sphagnum long strand moss, I tossed all the peat left in my rooting baggies into the potting soil sack.  While filling cups with soil, I discovered this tiny rooted thing.  It now has 4 leaves and tons of roots.  Have no clue what kind, but if i was in process of rooting it, it has to be something that was on my wish list, and those are all desirable varieties.

Mine was an accident, and I didn't fuss over it which is why it's doing so well probably!

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That would explain alot. i did some desert king cuttings back in april. i planted three for my collectio and sold 27. two i didnt see as the upper portion of the cutting died down to the node at the soil line and a shoot formed on each one. i have been babying them sence april and they are now a foot tall. the other ones grew to 3 foot.
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Often people use the thin ends or 'left overs' of their cuttings for trying to root 'one node wonders'. You know, the ends they just don't want to throw away ...and they see them sadly sitting/drying on the table - and just stick 'em into something.... And these often do grow slower because they weren't grown from the prime ends or treated as lovingly.

But if you start with really nice cuttings consisting of just one node, it's been my experience that once you get good roots and a nice leafy shoot, they grow just as nicely as initially longer cuttings. I'm not sure you get the same high % of rooting as from larger/longer cuttings with greater stores of energy, but you can get very nice,  healthy plants from one node wonders.

So... (Using easy numbers) if you get 70% success from longer cuttings, and 'only' 40 or 50% from shorter or one node wonders, if you start with 100 long cuttings you'll get 70 plants ...vs 80 to 100 plants from cuttings that have been cut in half (including one node wonders) and with a lower success rate.

Of course your mileage may vary - I don't advise this for anyone who is a novice at rooting cuttings.
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I can root things well enough but i guess you can say im that guy that just didnt want them to go to waste. so i tossed them into a cup of water and got to thinking about it. they have been in water since monday. i bagged them with moist mix today. mainly celeste, maybe some brown turkey, desert king, and purple magnolia in there as well but mainly celeste. i figure they might be a great way to get my frinds and family into growing figs. i dont know anybody that grows figs here. 99% of people i talk to dont even know what a fig is. thats somthing i want to change with a line of cooler climate figs.
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Amazing! Marvelous!
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WOW! Thats amazing!!! I going to try and get every cutting to grow from now on. No matter how small.
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thanks for starting this. I was wondering how small it could be to root.  know its  time to have a little fun and try this out .
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