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Carbon black, thin skin, ruby red, and shines just like her sister.
I present the world hermana de Maltese Beauty, GM #100

The last two photo belongs to my source.
P.S I will have my own pictures soon. Thanks for looking and I am grateful to have four. Maltese Beauty, Tiny Tim, GM#201 died, I was calling her Maltese Plâta- just kidding, I have no permission to name the siblings (thank god I have a back up, I will not know till she resprout in spring)
Enjoy!

Such a proud mama
Jenny

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Those are beautiful.  I'm sure your kids will reward you for your great parenting.  :)
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Congratulations Jennifer !!! Looks amazing !
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Thank you.. Yes they are precious.

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Best luck with them.  ; )
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that's a beauty :)
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looks so tasty, good luck and hope all make it.
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Congratulations!  They look like they're off to a great start.
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She's dead... I mean really dead. (Using profanity--->*%#*!%{>#%!) Urgh, this cutting meant a lot to me. My only back up. I seriously doubt that the one in ground is alive. I am really sad. She was going to be my best collection. I'm going to cry. I know this is a twig but... I really cared for her

-Jennifer

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Jennifer, sorry to see you lost your cutting.  Usually they are home free by the that stage but I've had this happen a couple times recently too (probably because I have been using soil that doesn't drain as well as it should).  Do you think you watered too much?  Too much humidity, not enough humidity, fungus gnats, etc?
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Cut off the rotten portion and stick it again, I have had some rotting, I cut up to an inch off, sometimes twice and it the have rooted fine after that.
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i use same soil mix for all my cuttings, but occationally, one or two pots will not drain well. if i don't pay attention to water, something like that will happen. it will either flat out rot, or the bark will peel off and it won't do anything. like chivas said, if the top part is still good, chop off the bottom and see what happens.

unless the whole length and inside is rot, i would try again.
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SCD seriously sucks. Sorry.
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Cut off the rotten portion and stick it again, I have had some rotting, I cut up to an inch off, sometimes twice and it the have rooted fine after that.


You got my hopes up, I ran back downstairs to dig up the twig from my trash. I looked at it and the outer bark just smeared right off. It is gross and slimy. Yep dead. (Sigh) CPR is out of the question, flat line _______
I appreciate it the thought

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That is too bad:(  That is one reason I think wicking the plants might work well.  It completely eliminates the top watering and keeps the plant evenly moist every day 24/7.  The moisture level can be controlled by how wet or dense of a mix you choose.  It sure works great with other plants.....and so far is working flawlessly for my fig cuttings.  
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Jennifer, sorry to see you lost your cutting.  Usually they are home free by the that stage but I've had this happen a couple times recently too (probably because I have been using soil that doesn't drain as well as it should).  Do you think you watered too much?  Too much humidity, not enough humidity, fungus gnats, etc?


GM201 rooted for me easy but took a long time to see results, this also happened with MF. Both shot roots up the wall, then as soon as I transferred, babies get shocked. I believe it was too much moisture. I smothered the cuttings. I killed her. Too much love I suppose. Sometimes we just NEED to back off. I should have stuck with my rules.

What kills me is that I have experience in rooting. This is a pricy cutting and I fear that the other rarer varieties may end up rotting. Those are the ONLY ones I tend to hover on most. The common varieties, although excellent, are left alone- they survived (all of them). It's not a coincidence.

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Yes, that's a tough pill to swallow when you lose one that's valuable to you like that Jennifer. Sorry this happened to you.

I had many failures, early on, myself (& still do). Most of them were due to over watering at one stage or another. No matter how long you've been rooting cuttings, it's still a delicate balance. Fortunately, most of us have enough successes to keep working at it and refining our techniques as we go. We can't bring back the ones we "killed" but we can certainly learn from our mistakes ;-/ .

The innate difficulties and stress inherent to rooting dormant cuttings is one of the main reasons I learned to to do grafting. It is sooo much less complicated than babysitting those little cuttings and worrying over them until they're established.

Sorry I can't replace that variety for you but, hopefully, I will have a couple of good GM varieties available sometime in the future :) . Maybe someone else will be able to help you in the shorter term though.....
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It happens to everyone and if they said it never did well they lied if they have tried enough times for we all at some point have drowned a newly rooted plant.
Just hurts more when we want a particular cultivar thats special - like your was to you.

Im sure another opportunity for this cultivar will come for you in time and yet sometimes the search is exciting !
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Thanks saxonfig,

I hope someone here will help me out to replace GM201 but time will tell. Thank you for considering me, I really do appreciate your kinship. For now, I am going back to the drawing board and learn from this. I will find better avenues to root cutting before the other rarer varieties come in. I will be bud/whip/bark grafting in spring.

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Hey Jennifer why don't you prune off that slimy stuff rinse the cutting off and put it in a ziploc bag with some moist spahgnum moss I hope this works don't give up on such a precious fig. Goodluck
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It happens to everyone and if they said it never did well they lied if they have tried enough times for we all at some point have drowned a newly rooted plant.<br>Just hurts more when we want a particular cultivar thats special - like your was to you.<br><br>Im sure another opportunity for this cultivar will come for you in time and yet sometimes the search is exciting !<br>Good luck.


You are very positive. I like that. Ha! If someone here is 100% successful, they are truly 100% liars- lol. Thanks Martin. You made me smile. Another learning curb for me and I thought I was done!

I still need to get over the putrid squishy smell. Glad I could share this experience with everyone.

-Jennifer
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Hey Jennifer why don't you prune off that slimy stuff rinse the cutting off and put it in a ziploc bag with some moist spahgnum moss I hope this works don't give up on such a precious fig. Goodluck


The whole bark was squishy. All of it from top to bottom slimy. (4min later...running back down to dig the twig from the trash again)---- it is bare I mean BARE. It is safe to say it is a lost cause. The length I go to revive this twig is amazes me. My hands smells like garbage and rotten twig.

- I bet you all are having déjà vu :-)
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Jennifer. You made me laugh with "putrid squishy smell". Couldn't have said better myself as I've been there and smelled that - LOL.

We all have felt your pain at one time or another.

I appreciate Martin's attitude on it also. If you're patient and you want it to come back to you, it most likely will in time :-) .
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I had this happen with one. In my case, I came up short on peat moss to mix in with pearlite for one last cup. I decided to try using some sphagnum moss to make due(because it was right there ready to go).
That was the first cutting to start growing leaves and roots against the cup. At some point the the roots stopped growing, the leaves died, and the whole thing was a tube of snot like yours. When I dumped it all out I couldn't help but notice that the sphagnum moss was like a soppy sponge, I deemed it the culprit.

Mine was not the variety of subject, or rare, or expensive.  And I had more, just a story really. :)
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Sorry for your loss I'm sure your source will help you get one soon he's a great person.
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What a bummer. I hate that feeling, especially after the initial elation of everything going well. Sucks.
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Yesterday, I just dubbed my GM#100 as "Maltese Raven", b/c:

(a) Its 'jet-black' skin color.
(b) The mother tree is located in an area known as (loosely translated) Raven (or Crow?).
(c) The fig is quite unique.
.....
(x) Baltimore (mischievous) Ravens were currently winning the Super Bowl XLVII ...
....
Go, Ravens, go ... [and they actually did win!]
.....

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Other than its skin color, I think that there is nothing else very spectacular -
but  I hope that it performs well here.

See post#246:
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Jennifer...the bane of my life has been overwatering...but I'm finally starting to learn what "slightly moist" means...have left a path of death and destruction in my wake...sometimes I'm so        "stupid,stupid,stupid...."
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I am one proud mama. Maltese Raven is about 2ft tall. Vigorous gal. And..... Very pretty- the name matches too. (Still recovering from the loss my dear friend)

Psst. Thank you.

Jennifer


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Yesterday, I just dubbed my GM#100 as "Maltese Raven", b/c:<br><br>(a) Its 'jet-black' skin color.<br>(b) The mother tree is located in an area known as (loosely translated) Raven (or Crow?).<br>(c) The fig is quite unique.<br>.....<br>(x) Baltimore (mischievous) Ravens were currently winning the Super Bowl <span style="color: #000000; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 14px; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #fafafa; display: inline !important; float: none;">XLVII</span> ...<br>....<br>Go, Ravens, go ... [and they actually did win!]<br>.....<br><br>Note:<br>Other than its skin color, I think that there is nothing else very spectacular -<br>but  I hope that it performs well here.<br id="tinymce" class="mceContentBody "><br>See post#246:<br>http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/Super-Bowl-%28-of-figs-%29-all-three-game-boards-posted-6181695?
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Good job Jennifer!  You got the gift!
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You are so sweet. Thank you!

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Does anybody else have Maltese Raven? It's late, but I noticed she is really getting thirsty! Growing big and tall, I pinched the top hoping to get more branching. I will get more photos in the morning
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Maybe some day I'll have one of those Maltese varieties, but for now I'll just have to drool on everyone else's pictures and cheer for your rooting success!  She sure does sound vigorous.  Nice job!
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There is no mistaking that putrid smell of a rotted fig cutting, blah. Jenn, let them be a little thirsty, it's much safer.  
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I was told by the manager of the garden center I shop in that most plant die from over watering then under watering.  Last spring/summer I killed all of the cuttings from to much water!  This time around I haven't lost one yet.  The cutting I did the emergency root pruning on I believe was due to lack of water.  I noticed the leaves don't droop the way I was expecting,  I didn't water for a few weeks so i think that was the case.  It is still alive and I am keeping an eye on it.  I have about 24 in cups, 14 or so in moss and more in the fridge.
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JoAnn, That sounds good what you are doing. Another thing to consider, as has been discussed many times is the soil mix you use. Many use 50/50 blend of commercial soil and perlite. I have used that successfully, but recently I have been using Pro Mix HP. The HP stands for high porosity, and I have found that I do not need to add perlite or anything to this mix as it is designed to allow aeration and it works great. Jenn, if you can locate this produc t I recommend it highly.
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