Smungung
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I feel like this question already has a thread that couldn't find but what website would you recommend to buy plants from for a good price and quality? I already know about wellsprings I just wanted to see if there were more website for me to buy plants from because cuttings are driving me crazy.
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OldOneEye
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A lot of those links COGardener posted are broken, but you can just cut out everything after .com for most of them and get to their homepage and make your way to the fig sections from there. I can personally vouch for the following, pasted from a recent post I made: http://www.treesofantiquity.com/ Probably the best quality of any trees I have ever received. They ship bareroot trees only during the dormant time of year and have been personable via email. http://www.starkbros.com/ A big nursery company. In business since 1816 as they like to brag. The plants I've received from them have been pretty small, but healthy. Just don't expect personal customer service. http://wellspringgardens.com/ Quite a few figs to choose from here. They ship tiny little newly rooted cuttings, but have low prices and usually throw in a couple bonus plants of your choice. http://ediblelandscaping.com/ Plants of varying sizes to choose from. They ship year round in pots. I've bought mostly Pawpaws and Pomegranates from them and not been disappointed. http://hirts.com/ These guys have their website and are also on Amazon, Etsy, and ebay. I've ordered a few things from them and their figs come in 4" square pots. http://www.justfruitsandexotics.com/ I haven't ordered from this one yet, but I've heard good things and they have a good selection of figs. https://www.fourwindsgrowers.com/store/ I didn't order figs from them, but their finger limes came in phenomenal condition. (they specialize in citrus but offer 12 fig varieties) http://isons.com/ They only offer 5 basic fig varieties but I thought I would mention them. If you want muscadine grapes they are THE place.
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Hi smungung, Try patience ! With all crops you need patience. It is frustrating, but so is life it seems... at times at least . But with patience, you can get there. I've been babying fig trees for 7 years and I'm now getting good results ... I had an hard frost reset in 2012... On the other hand, my plum is about to get the Axe... Nothing can help that thing in cropping reliably ... Did I mention the meat inside the plums ? Well to make a long story short, figs are easier. But still, you need patience. Getting 3 trees (of fruiting size and age ) is still a good decision for you (Christmas is not far away... that could be a good idea ) , to help you have patience on your cuttings :) . Good luck !
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OldOneEye http://wellspringgardens.com/ Quite a few figs to choose from here. They ship tiny little newly rooted cuttings, but have low prices and usually throw in a couple bonus plants of your choice. Unfortunately they don't sell rooted cuttings, they'll sell tc (tissue culture) plants. The bad thing about tc figs is that they have generally reverted to juvenile wood and won't fruit much (if at all) for a number of years. You'll mostly just be growing a lot of sticks and leaves instead of fruit. Cuttings from fruiting wood are 100 times better than tc's. It's like the difference between getting a good grafted avocado/orange/etc tree versus growing one from seed. I wasted 2 years growing a bunch of 10ft wide x 7ft tall tc's that produced zero figs, and almost totally quit the hobby because of it, before thankfully trying a few cuttings instead. It was a night/day difference. Almost all of the cuttings I root from fruiting wood set fruit right away from the ground up. Oh how I wish someone would have told me this when I first started, so I wouldn't have wasted 2 years growing unproductive tc's from Wellspring.
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Actually, not ALL of the TC plants revert to juvenile wood. I have 10 TC plants from well spring as do many other members, most fruit the first year, the rest typically in the second year. I removed from most of my 1st year trees and harvested from the second year.
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I apologies for any links that are broken, they should all work from my original post.http://www.ourfigs.com/forum/figs-home/18616-online-fig-distributors
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Matthew,
Here's a link to a local guy in Fairlawn,NJ http://frenchfigfarm.com/
He has some nice varieties
That's where I got my Pons' Planera and Col de Dama Blanca-Negra from.
Will be picking up Calderona and Col de Dama Rimada soon
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Originally Posted by GreenFin Unfortunately they don't sell rooted cuttings, they'll sell tc (tissue culture) plants.
I bought about 20 plants from wellspring, and not one of them looked to me like they were tissue cultured. I'm no expert, but I've seen pictures of tissue cultured figs and they are delicate, green, wiry things. The plants I received were woody, lignified. They were tiny though. I planted them in pots and every one took off and is doing fine. No figs yet though.
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OldOneEye http://wellspringgardens.com/ Quite a few figs to choose from here. They ship tiny little newly rooted cuttings, but have low prices and usually throw in a couple bonus plants of your choice. Unfortunately they don't sell rooted cuttings, they'll sell tc (tissue culture) plants.
The bad thing about tc figs is that they have generally reverted to juvenile wood and won't fruit much (if at all) for a number of years. You'll mostly just be growing a lot of sticks and leaves instead of fruit.
Cuttings from fruiting wood are 100 times better than tc's. It's like the difference between getting a good grafted avocado/orange/etc tree versus growing one from seed. I wasted 2 years growing a bunch of 10ft wide x 7ft tall tc's that produced zero figs, and almost totally quit the hobby because of it, before thankfully trying a few cuttings instead. It was a night/day difference. Almost all of the cuttings I root from fruiting wood set fruit right away from the ground up.
Oh how I wish someone would have told me this when I first started, so I wouldn't have wasted 2 years growing unproductive tc's from Wellspring.
My experience with tissue cultures has been completely different than yours apparently, so I must disagree. To be fair though, I up-potted carefully, fertilized, watered, and live in an area that has good weather and long summers. My plants were carefully provided for. I have 5 Tissue culture plants, and all 5 grew like weeds and 4 of them produced over 20 figs each in their first year. The other is a "Black Mission" variant that grew like a weed but produced no figs. It has a bad case of rust so maybe that is why... can't be sure... We'll see next year. The trees were delicate little bean sprout looking things when I got them, but boy did they grow vigorously once they became acclimated to the new soil and sun. It is really amazing how much they grew, and I didn't even pinch a single fruit the first year. TC plants were an A+ experience for me. Sorry you had a bad experience with yours.
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I just received 2 trees from justfruits and exotics about two weeks ago. Here is a picture of the trees. They are nearly 48" tall. They were shipped in the 3 gal. containers and were well packaged. I have never ordered trees online before but I was very pleased with my dealings with them. They were responsive to my inquiries before I bought them. I emailed them 3 separate times and they responded quickly each time. I bought an O'Rourke and a LSU Improved Celeste. I thought it was a fair price for the trees and shipping. Hope this helps. Dale
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OldOneEye http://wellspringgardens.com/ Quite a few figs to choose from here. They ship tiny little newly rooted cuttings, but have low prices and usually throw in a couple bonus plants of your choice. Unfortunately they don't sell rooted cuttings, they'll sell tc (tissue culture) plants.
The bad thing about tc figs is that they have generally reverted to juvenile wood and won't fruit much (if at all) for a number of years. You'll mostly just be growing a lot of sticks and leaves instead of fruit.
Cuttings from fruiting wood are 100 times better than tc's. It's like the difference between getting a good grafted avocado/orange/etc tree versus growing one from seed. I wasted 2 years growing a bunch of 10ft wide x 7ft tall tc's that produced zero figs, and almost totally quit the hobby because of it, before thankfully trying a few cuttings instead. It was a night/day difference. Almost all of the cuttings I root from fruiting wood set fruit right away from the ground up.
Oh how I wish someone would have told me this when I first started, so I wouldn't have wasted 2 years growing unproductive tc's from Wellspring.
My experience with tissue cultures has been completely different than yours apparently, so I must disagree. To be fair though, I up-potted carefully, fertilized, watered, and live in an area that has good weather and long summers. My plants were carefully provided for. I have 5 Tissue culture plants, and all 5 grew like weeds and 4 of them produced over 20 figs each in their first year. The other is a "Black Mission" variant that grew like a weed but produced no figs. It has a
bad case of rust so maybe that is why... can't be sure... We'll see next year.
The trees were delicate little bean sprout looking things when I got them, but boy did they grow vigorously once they became acclimated to the new soil and sun. It is really amazing how much they grew, and I didn't even pinch a single fruit the first year. TC plants were an A+ experience for me. Sorry you had a bad experience with yours.
I'm very happy you had a great experience, but you're not really disagreeing with me. I never said ALL tc plants revert to juvenile wood; that was a curious misrepresentation of my position by another poster. You having a good experience doesn't contradict or even disagree with my assertion that rooted cuttings from fruiting wood are "generally" (i.e. "on average" "tend to be" etc) more productive than their tc counterparts during the early years. Sort of like how knowing a bunch of women over 6' tall wouldn't contradict an assertion that men are generally taller than women. I also want to be very clear that my position is NOT based solely on my experience or even much on my experience at all. My personal experience is just one tiny data point, just like yours. My position is almost entirely based on the overall group data that I got from searching the archives for every tc reference I could find, and then reading and tallying members' experiences. If you do the same, you'll find a whole lot of people who have reported their tc's tending to be less fruitful or outright barren, whereas on the flipside there aren't any reports of people claiming that their tc's are more productive than their cutting counterparts. Heck, it's relatively rare to find people who claim that tc's and rooted cuttings are entirely equal in their early productivity. I admit that I haven't done much forum reading this year, though, so my position is just based on the many years of archives leading up to this year. I strongly recommend you all just do your own reading and reasoning on it. I furthermore want to nip in the bud any possible swelling notion that I'm anti-Wellspring. On the complete and total contrary, I have often recommended them as a nursery. I generally only recommend them for their bananas, though, and take care to note that they sell tc's and the general pros and cons of that. But even for fig folks, they're still worthwhile if you can't get cuttings, and if you're aware of the risk of weak fruiting that many people have reported. I'm sure you've all had instances in your lives when your position has been misrepresented by other people, so I'm sure you can understand how frustrating it is. I have meant this as a polite clarification of my position, and I hope it is taken that way.
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Wait so if I take a cutting from juvenile wood tc trees and grew it would I still be juvenile wood?
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Sure, I got ya. Thanks for the clarification. I wasn't trying to be rude or misrepresent your position. Although, I may have misunderstood you somewhat. If I offended you in any way or caused you unwarranted frustration then I apologize. I just wanted to share my positive experience with TC plants. All the best!Quote:
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OldOneEye http://wellspringgardens.com/ Quite a few figs to choose from here. They ship tiny little newly rooted cuttings, but have low prices and usually throw in a couple bonus plants of your choice. Unfortunately they don't sell rooted cuttings, they'll sell tc (tissue culture) plants.
The bad thing about tc figs is that they have generally reverted to juvenile wood and won't fruit much (if at all) for a number of years. You'll mostly just be growing a lot of sticks and leaves instead of fruit.
Cuttings from fruiting wood are 100 times better than tc's. It's like the difference between getting a good grafted avocado/orange/etc tree versus growing one from seed. I wasted 2 years growing a bunch of 10ft wide x 7ft tall tc's that produced zero figs, and almost totally quit the hobby because of it, before thankfully trying a few cuttings instead. It was a night/day difference. Almost all of the cuttings I root from fruiting wood set fruit right away from the ground up.
Oh how I wish someone would have told me this when I first started, so I wouldn't have wasted 2 years growing unproductive tc's from Wellspring.
My experience with tissue cultures has been completely different than yours apparently, so I must disagree. To be fair though, I up-potted carefully, fertilized, watered, and live in an area that has good weather and long summers. My plants were carefully provided for. I have 5 Tissue culture plants, and all 5 grew like weeds and 4 of them produced over 20 figs each in their first year. The other is a "Black Mission" variant that grew like a weed but produced no figs. It has a
bad case of rust so maybe that is why... can't be sure... We'll see next year.
The trees were delicate little bean sprout looking things when I got them, but boy did they grow vigorously once they became acclimated to the new soil and sun. It is really amazing how much they grew, and I didn't even pinch a single fruit the first year. TC plants were an A+ experience for me. Sorry you had a bad experience with yours.
I'm very happy you had a great experience, but you're not really disagreeing with me.
I never said ALL tc plants revert to juvenile wood; that was a curious misrepresentation of my position by another poster. You having a good experience doesn't contradict or even disagree with my assertion that rooted cuttings from fruiting wood are "generally" (i.e. "on average" "tend to be" etc) more productive than their tc counterparts during the early years. Sort of like how knowing a bunch of women over 6' tall wouldn't contradict an assertion that men are generally taller than women.
I also want to be very clear that my position is NOT based solely on my experience or even much on my experience at all. My personal experience is just one tiny data point, just like yours. My position is almost entirely based on the overall group data that I got from searching the archives for every tc reference I could find, and then reading and tallying members' experiences. If you do the same, you'll find a whole lot of people who have reported their tc's tending to be less fruitful or outright barren, whereas on the flipside there aren't any reports of people claiming that their tc's are more productive than their cutting counterparts. Heck, it's relatively rare to find people who claim that tc's and rooted cuttings are entirely equal in their early productivity. I admit that I haven't done much forum reading this year, though, so my position is just based on the many years of archives leading up to this year. I strongly recommend you all just do your own reading and reasoning on it.
I furthermore want to nip in the bud any possible swelling notion that I'm anti-Wellspring. On the complete and total contrary, I have often recommended them as a nursery. I generally only recommend them for their bananas, though, and take care to note that they sell tc's and the general pros and cons of that. But even for fig folks, they're still worthwhile if you can't get cuttings, and if you're aware of the risk of weak fruiting that many people have reported.
I'm sure you've all had instances in your lives when your position has been misrepresented by other people, so I'm sure you can understand how frustrating it is. I have meant this as a polite clarification of my position, and I hope it is taken that way.
__________________ Wish list: Galicia Negra, Violetta, Violette de Sollies, Dan_la's Black Beauty 10, Craven's Craving, Most important : YOUR FAVORITE FIG . A lot of people put emphasis on popular/exotic cultivars, which is great because it highlights some of the better fig varieties; however, I am most interested in the figs our members love regardless of pedigree. Currently Growing: a bunch of varieties.