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I know that there are well respected members here who sell cuts on Ebay.Are there any here who can ship internationally with permits?

I would appreciate hearing about any member(s) who could ship legally abroad.I heard that some countries are getting a lot more strict about  foreign plants/material importation.

I think it would be great if there were a "vendor sticky".

Feel free to pm me..thanks.
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If you are importing into the US, the importer must have the permit, not the exporter.
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That makes sense,but the vendor I was dealing with said she knows their are vendors on the forum that have permits to ship internationally.Now that I think about it,maybe they would need permits for the countries they are shipping into.(?).

I'm not importing into the US.I am trying to find a vendor that will ship to me in the Philippines.
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Both need it and its,cost 50 dollers per cutting thats why no one doesnt like to do it
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The importer needs a permit. If you are in the Philippines, you would need an import permit, which is sent to the seller/exporter and used by the USDA to determine the requirements that must be met in order for the USDA to issue a phytosanitary certificate. It starts with the importer getting an import permit.
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Thank you figpig and pitangadiego for explaining that to me.I can surely see the expense involved.No wonder no one wants to do it.
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Originally Posted by figpig_66
Both need it and its,cost 50 dollers per cutting thats why no one doesnt like to do it


50!?
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 I think $50 a cutting is completely reasonable. ten foot long branch cuttings count as a cutting right? 
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Over here in Malaysia.. we only need an import permit if we bring life plants in. Not with cuttings.
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 I think $50 a cutting is completely reasonable. ten foot long branch cuttings count as a cutting right? [/QUOTE

Lol...i like your thinking, Figgysid
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It may well be that I just assumed that cuts would be confiscated if shipped here,because they are being confiscated in other countries.I think it might be worth a try to find one of our members who will ship internationally,and give it a try.
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See Here.  Under Restricted Products >>

Bulbs and tubers

Unless specified elsewhere in the summary, a Phytosanitary Certificate (PC) and Import Permit (IP) are required.  Do not certify unless an IP is presented.
Must be free from sand, soil, or earth.

Cut flowers and branches

Unless specified elsewhere in the summary, a Phytosanitary Certificate (PC) and Import Permit (IP) are required.  Do not certify unless an IP is presented.
Fruits and vegetables
Unless specified elsewhere in the summary, a Phytosanitary Certificate (PC) and Import Permit (IP) are required.  Do not certify unless an IP is presented.
An Additional Declaration is required that, "Philippine Plant Protection Service import number (????) was presented."
The ocean freight container number and seal number must be listed in the "Distinguishing Marks" section on the PC.

Grain

Unless specified elsewhere in the summary, a Phytosanitary Certificate (PC) and Import Permit (IP) are required.
This general requirements includes grain and its milled products for example: brewer's dried grain, distiller's dried grain, bran, flour, germ, groats, hulls, meal, and screenings.
Miscellaneous products
All plant products eligible for phytosanitary certification not listed as prohibited or unrestricted intended for food, animal feed, or those for processing or manufacturing purposes, require a Phytosanitary Certificate (PC)and Import Permit (IP). Do not certify unless an IP or an official letter from the Bureau of Plant Industry is presented.

Mushroom spawn

A Phytosanitary Certificate (PC) and Import Permit (IP) are required.  Do not certify unless an IP is presented.

Plants

Unless specified elsewhere in the summary, a Phytosanitary Certificate (PC) and Import Permit (IP) are required. Do not certify unless an IP is presented.

Seeds

Unless specified elsewhere in the summary, a Phytosanitary Certificate (PC) and Import Permit (IP) are required. Do not certify unless an IP is presented.

Wood and lumber

Unless specified elsewhere in the summary, a Phytosanitary Certificate (PC) and Import Permit (IP) are required. Do not certify unless an IP is presented.

You need an Import Permit and a Phytosanitary Certificate.
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You are right pitangadiego.

The question is enforcement.Some laws are applied,while others aren't.It seems I have heard from a few different individuals,that cuts are not being confiscated.That does not mean they won't start applying the law tomorrow tho. :)
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I guess I am going to find out here shortly.I can't afford to throw money away,but there is basically no alternative to just giving it a try.Wish me luck.
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Originally Posted by alanmercieca
  some people might say get them while you can because laws will only get more enforced in time.


Nail on the head Alan.Who can say what tomorrow will bring?I can't really afford to buy too many,but I'd rather try and get a couple now,in case it does become difficult..
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Anyone knows what's the case for Europe at the moment?
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EEU Countries require a Phytosanitary Certificate issued by the government where the fig cutting was grown.
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Jon has it right. figpig's figure of $50 is what he says is the cost for a phytosanitary certificate.  There is a flat fee by USDA but various states (or, in the case of California, counties within the state) charge an additional small fee for their cost associated with it.  But it's not a cost per cutting, it's a cost for a shipment.  I've usually charged $75-$100 which includes my time and gas to drive to my Ag Commissioner's office.  But, as Jon says, first the buyer must get their import permit and furnish it to the seller to see if they can even meet the requirements.  For instance, one researcher in Italy wanted to get pomegranate cuttings from USDA Davis but the requirements included that the plants be inspected during the growing season and found free of diseases.  The Ag Commissioner does not inspect the USDA's fields so they could not make this certification so the researcher bought cuttings from me since my operation is inspected.
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My first order arrived in the mail today (from Israel...Thanks Sami).Total of 18 days in transit.My order from the US hasn't arrived yet,but it wasn't shipped until a few days later.

I guess the Philippines hasn't fully implemented the plant importation laws,or at least are not fully enforcing them yet.

Wish me luck getting them to root would you?

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greetings, also from the Philippines. also interested to start Figs, but not much sources. How's your figs doing now? :) 
Pls pm me for your source, if possible... :)
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Im not sure if they will ship to you but I'd try to contact them.

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