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persianmd2orchard

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My impression is Hollier and Improved Celeste would be hardy in ground zone 7a with members growing them in ground happily. 

And that O'Rourke and White Triana may not be as hardy...

Does that sound right?

I do grow VdB just fine against a wall. I'm thinking all of these may possibly work against a wall for me.
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Year old Hollier and Improved Celeste (larger caliper, 3/4 inch) came through the winter with minimal die back (less than 6 inches at 4 feet above soil line), after being exposed to 20 deg F and dips to 15 deg F., before being stored under cover.  The O'Rourkes were killed to the soil line, they were all in 5 gallon buckets. I didn't have White Triana last year, but will be trialing it this season. They will all be planted in ground eventually, with some protection.

<edit> O'Rourke was cold hardy... the tree that had dieback to soil line was LSU Tiger, it was mislabled from the nursery...
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oops misread your post. sounds like orourke is a gamble, i think white triana may b ,same. perhaps after few years in ground will b ok.
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Hollier has no protection for at least 2 winters in Pacific Northwest, Canada. Outdoor in-ground plant is about 4ft wide and 5ft tall.  Some minor tip die backs, nothing serious. No idea on others.
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Just so you Yanks don't embarrass yourselves if you run across any coonass figgers, it's pronounced Oh' Yay
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thanks for info everyone. please keep us posted Pete!
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Posted Reply with quote  #7 
Hollier= Oh' Yay?
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I thought it was Ol' Yay???
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Gene, far be it for a Baton Rouger to claim to out Cajun anyone from Houma, I guess I just always under-heard the "el" sound. 

But it surely aint "Ha lee er"
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We say Ol' yay here, too, Gene, but it can sound like Oh' yay, brackhishfigger.  Beau soliel is pronounced, Bow' So lay (Beautiful sun/sunlight).  Not sure if I spelt that one correctly and am too lazy to go look.

Gene, you should see the "Hal lee er" you gave me and how it's grown!  Forgot to tell you that.

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Man that is going to take my brain awhile to adjust to that. Noss you hit it right on the head, that is exactly how I thought it was pronounced. Funny thing is I don't have one, I have never pronounced the name out loud(only in my head), but I was Hall-ee-er all the way!

I should have known. There are some French Canadians where I grew up and the "ier" isn't completely foreign.
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Always thought it was "Hall-ee-ay" myself lol.
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Well, my mom was a school teacher and taught as easily as she breathed, so she would make mention of diffeent languages and how things were pronounced in French, Spanish and sometimes, Italian,but I could see the similarities between the three languages because of her and the differences.  English (And American), too.  It was fun and interesting to have my own teacher all to myself and she liked to talk and made learning interesting.

When we moved here, I had very little trouble pronouncing most of the French names, but they'd throw me a curve here and there.  Meaux is, Mow; Comeaux is co-mow; so Reaux should be Row, right?  Nope, it's Ray-oh.  Mestayer is, Met-ah-yay.  Champagne is Shom-pine.  And so it goes.  So, don't feel badly if some of the names throw you.  I'm still trying to figure out how Ischia is pronounce and it doesn't look like anyone else knows, either because I've heard it pronounced, Eye-shia and something else, I forget, but in my head, I've pronounced it Ih-skia, with a short I.

Never mind what how the name is pronounced--All I want to know is how does it taste and does it have a closed eye (i.e. how does it do in the rain)

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Noss your mom sounds really special. My longtime gf was a foreign language teacher. Languages can be really fun :) 

I lost you at Mow and Meow though!! I've only heard Eye-shee-ah so far.
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The thing is, different areas of Louisiana pronounce Cajun names differently such as Duhon, Trahan, Vincent and Guilliot.
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French Canadians and some from parts of atlantic Canada don't pronounce the "H" if its the first letter of a word. The minister who married my wife and I was from Newfoundland and spoke this way. Since Cajuns have that french canadian heritage I wonder if thats why it is pronounced that way?
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I would like to update my original post to this Topic. Due to the pictures that were posted from the LSU Fig Field Day,  I may be able to clarify questions that I had from last season. The fig that I purchased as Tiger, did not have the standard Tiger leaves, but had striped figs. I thought that it may have been Just the variable leaves of a young fig tree. After seeing the posted pictures of the O'Rourke figs and Leaves of the trees in two posts, It seems that my Tiger may be an O'Rourke. This would then make the O'Rourke a cold hardy cultivar, because the "Tiger" had minimal die back. I should be able to get a better ID once figs ripen. I apologize for any misinformation.
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Posted Reply with quote  #18 
And all this time I thought it was pronounced "Hollier".
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Posted Reply with quote  #19 
Okay, I have this strawberry named "HONEOYE". How is that pronounced?
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