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Jon's site doesn't show much about this variety, but I have a potted tree that I'd like to plant in-ground.  I'm wondering about it's growth habits.  Slow growing, Fast Growing, Size Potential?  I am trying to decide where on this property to plant it.  We don't want to plant a large tree where it could impact our neighbor's views, but we have places that won't bother any neighbor if it grows 80' tall.

Would love any of you to tell me if it's a small or large tree in ground. 

I had this on my wish list because it is reputed to taste more like a strawberry than a strawberry!  I hope to know this year!

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Little info here    http://myfolia.com/plants/459-common-fig-ficus-carica/varieties/121861-bourjassotte-grise/frequently_asked_questions
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Thanks!  24' x 14'.  Nice size!  Got just the spot!!

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Suzi I hear a lot of good things about this particular variety , I am rooting few myself.They are suited even for cold and wet London.
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Suzi, it's a great fig. Mine took 3 extra years before the figs were edible. They're sweet and prolific. It has brown spots on the outside when the figs ripen. My tree is in the ground and has a beautiful bowl shape. Mine is a keeper. Here are a few photos taken last year. No, the figs don't taste like peaches.

EDIT:  Thanks to Leon and Harvey, my so called BJG is not the real one.  Leon and Havey has the real one.  Mine will be relabeled to Unknown Brown.
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Well it's now in ground.  On high ground.  I'm thinking protect.  We have a few huge pots, and I'm thinking protection for a while until it gets bigger than the protector.  That would be a 15 gallon pot with a huge tree in it.... not a fig...  I'm OK with a umbrella!!
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Dennis, were they really ripe in the picture, they look on dry side , how did they taste?
I imagine they will be very sweet and juicier in California.
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Dennis, I am an impatient girl, and you know that, but I'm willing to wait for many years.  I just want it to survive and produce!  I already figured out that we need to protect it.  It's got two main trunks, both split.  I cant wait to taste this one!  I am going to put a huge pot with a wisteria next to it.  It might have to fight for space because the wisteria is a lovely evil woman!!

But she will shade my baby while it grows!

Suzi
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Dennis:
I may be wrong but I do not think your fig is a true Bourjassotte Grise.
I grew BG years back from original Prusch cuttings.


Here are several photos of my BG:

http://figs4fun.com/Thumbnail_Bourjassote_Grise.html

The skin is more blotchy mixed with green and the pulp is almost blood red with an exquisite taste.

I gave up on this fig because it had a tendency to drop it's fruit here in my climate. It was one of the BEST tasting figs I ever had in my collection!
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leon,

that pix of BG almost looks like CdD.
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Thanks Leon!  I agree with Pete, your BJG does look like CdD.  Shape, color and all.  But hey here's how I look at it.  One of us is right and one of us is wrong and like Gomer Pile would say, "I'm just having a time of my life"!

Figs are such a mystery!

Hey Leon, for about 2 years, my tree would drop it figs.  I almost dig it up.  I have another one from a different source somewhere in my garage.  I''ll grow them side by side and compare.
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A sad thing just happened.  I have a spreadsheet of each fig and cutting I had with information about each.  Your discussion made me look to see who sent me my plant, but in the process I was reminded of all the beauties I lost during my fungus gnat attacks.  I haven't seen a gnat at this house, but I am going to water with BT whenever I get cuttings to grow again.  I hope that I've got BG, the real deal, but I won't know until it fruits, and even then, maybe not for a long time.  The big job now is to keep it alive and healthy where it sits on it's hill top.

The figs should have a sweet strawberry flavor.  I think that's key to ID.

Suzi
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Pete and Dennis:
Looking at the photos of my BG does remind me of CdD, specifically CdDG however, BG would produce some really large figs compared to CdDG.
Would be interesting to see how the side-by-sides do Dennis! Another Gomer classic, Surprise..Surprise..Surprise!!!
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Here's a photo I took of BG at Prusch last September when Neil (Posturedoc) and I visited.  We had an odd very rain during our visit so the photos did not come out very well.  Additionally, the orchard was suffering from lack of irrigation for an extended period of time (my inquiry lead to the discovery that maintenance works had turned off the water supply line to repair a broken line but then forgot to turn it back on).  As such, the fruit were generally smaller (some other trees were losing leaves).

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Thank you Harvey for the beautiful photo. This is the BG that I acquired from that same collection.
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Thanks for the pictures Harvey, it looks like a great fig, how did it taste?
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Then the jury is out on my fig.  GUILTY!  Now I need to rename mine to Mystery and track my paper work and contact the seller of my tree.  Harvey, whenever you make a trip back to that park....remember me for at least 2 cuttings.  Or I can get them when I make my way there in August.  Nice pictures!  Thanks Harvey!

Sorry Suzi, my tree is not BJ-Grise.  I need to go back and edit my thread so others won't get confused.

thanks!
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Harvey, thanks for the photo.  I know that the trees had irrigation problems, but could you estimate how high they were?

This place we bought has many irrigation issues.  My husband is trying to make maps of where each of the 12 stations go.  We have some pine trees and he can't figure out which valve does those, so he connected them to a working line.  They were looking pretty sad there for a while, but they are recovering now.  Happily, they aren't figs!

Dennis, your photos disappointed me (not what I was expecting for BG), but the figs look delicious!  I hope you figure out what they are.  Fingers crossed my BG is what it's supposed to be.

Thanks,

Suzi
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suzi, why would you want to keep pine tree around? i hate pine trees.. NC is filled with pine trees. they smell like rotten mulch and never change color.. fill whole area with yellow haze during the spring.. i can't stand them.. urgh... 
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Pete, it's about ambiance and function.  We live on a hillside overlooking a valley with city lights at night and a lot of agriculture and dairy and ranches.  There are big mountains around the valley, and some get a lot of snow in winter.  The pines make us feel like we are living in the mountains.  There are no gas lines up here, so we use cones dipped in wax for fire wood starters.  Those trees provide tons of cones!  There are two groves on the property about 30 years old.  They aren't dense like yours, and there is plenty of sunny spots for figs.

Suzi

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Zach, my memory isn't very clear on that day...pretty hectic with the rain.  Most figs there seemed quite acidic and I think the lack of water affected that but I believe this and Igo and Lampiera were some of the richer tasting figs we enjoyed.  My own tree should fruit this year, I believe.

Suzi, I don't remember the size but it's in an area where most of the trees are 8-10 high and as wide.  Personally, I don't plan on letting any of my trees getting that large and controlling size by pruning so that I can reach the fruit while standing on the ground.

Dennis, I'm getting lots of requests right now for BG, LOL.  When are you coming in August?  I might go to the pitaya conference/festival which starts on 8/21.  I'll be going back to Prusch in the spring, most likely, to add some new trees to the collection.  The local CRFG chapter got a quote to have a new irrigation system installed for the fruit orchards for $90,000 from the city contractor but then the contractor knocked it down to $3,000 for half of the system without the fig orchard but when I was there on 1/18 they had gone ahead and started adding new water lines to all of the empty fig tree spots and some of the existing trees that were missing a water line.  Things should be looking much better this year!
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Harvey, I'll be there sometime in August.  I'll be traveling with JV.  I might make another drive to Houston this year or drive up to visit Bill in New Jersey.  The wife says I can only take 2 trips this year without her!  HA! 

If you go in SPring, keep me in mind, please!  I'm considering joining the CRFG.  I can afford a monthly trip to CA if I want.  I hate I missed their Hawaii trip last year.  I need to get plugged into the NCRG here..... if there is one.....or start one here!
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Thanks Harvey, I hope you get fruit this year, I am looking forward to hearing how yours tastes
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thanks to a very generous forum member, i was able to obtain a cutting for the BG. hopefully i don't kill it like i did to NdC cutting last winter. very nice hardwood cutting with very clean node and leaf scars. just need one cutting to strike to make 100 trees.. that is if i can keep this alive :) good new is, it's feb.!!! baggie till march, and cup for few weeks and it should be in a 1 gal and outside. woo hoo!
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***** and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...*****
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Way to go Pete!
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Pete, there is so much pressure when you only have one cutting!  I have a treasured Negretta cutting on the way, also from a generous forum member, and I am praying I don't kill this one like the last ones.  I'm happy my BG is in the ground and so far so good!  I can't wait to taste it's figs.  It's about 18 months old, so hopefully this year, but I know they need some years of growth before they are at their best!

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Pete, I can now celebrate with you. Cuttings like Leon's are on the way!
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