i finally get what Brown Turkey means!

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bullet08

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Posted 1398802049	Reply with quote #1

for longest time i was wondering why would anyone name a fig Brown Turkey. while searching on how to hunt for morels... i finally get it :) it's a Brown fig from Turkey! __________________ Pete Durham, NC Zone 7b "don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher *** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. * * and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...***

Rewton

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Posted 1398802369	Reply with quote #2

It's good to get at least one moment of enlightenment every day :) __________________ Steve MD zone 7a

Joe_Athens1945

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Posted 1398803395	Reply with quote #3

Quote: Originally Posted by bullet08 for longest time i was wondering why would anyone name a fig Brown Turkey. while searching on how to hunt for morels... i finally get it :) it's a Brown fig from Turkey! Actually, a little while ago, I saw on a nursery website the statement that the Brown Turkey fig tree was so named because turkeys like to roost in them and eat the figs. I liked that. Afterwards, I thought that if I ever started marketing BT cuttings, I could change the cultivar name to "Thanksgiving Turkey." __________________ Athens, GA USA Zone 7b My young trees in the ground and in pots: Brown Turkey, White Triana JM, Magnolia, Strawberry Verte, Violette de Bordeaux, Panache, UK Brooklyn Dark JP, Ronde de Bordeaux. Wish list: St Rita

Aaron4USA

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Posted 1398803696	Reply with quote #4

Haha... Pete... how did you ever come to that conclusion!!!

needaclone

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Posted 1398804491	Reply with quote #5

Pete, I think that entitles you to change the name from "Brown Turkey" to "Epiphany". Cheers, Jim __________________ Clarksburg, NJ - Zone 6b Wishlist - A wise man recommended: Nero600M . Malta Black . Tacoma (Takoma) Violet . Gino's . Adriatic JH . Vista Mission . Florea . Atreano . ...also...RdB, Bethlehem Black, Negronne, Grise de St. Jean, Livano, Col de Dame Blanc/Gris/Noir, Vasilika Sika, Longue D'Aout, Italian 258, Pennsylvania 6-5000

needaclone

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Posted 1398805850	Reply with quote #6

OK, Pete, given your newfound insight....what does "Malta Black" mean? Jim __________________ Clarksburg, NJ - Zone 6b Wishlist - A wise man recommended: Nero600M . Malta Black . Tacoma (Takoma) Violet . Gino's . Adriatic JH . Vista Mission . Florea . Atreano . ...also...RdB, Bethlehem Black, Negronne, Grise de St. Jean, Livano, Col de Dame Blanc/Gris/Noir, Vasilika Sika, Longue D'Aout, Italian 258, Pennsylvania 6-5000

Joe_Athens1945

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Posted 1398805968	Reply with quote #7

Quote: Originally Posted by bullet08 for longest time i was wondering why would anyone name a fig Brown Turkey. while searching on how to hunt for morels... i finally get it :) it's a Brown fig from Turkey! Hang tough with the storms predicted for Raleigh/Durham tonight, Pete. May they pass you and your trees by! Joe __________________ Athens, GA USA Zone 7b My young trees in the ground and in pots: Brown Turkey, White Triana JM, Magnolia, Strawberry Verte, Violette de Bordeaux, Panache, UK Brooklyn Dark JP, Ronde de Bordeaux. Wish list: St Rita

needaclone

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Posted 1398805972	Reply with quote #8

OK, Pete, now you got me thinking...and you need to fill in a few blanks for me: how does "searching for how to hunt for morels" lead you to understanding the name Brown Turkey?!?!? ...this should be interesting... ;-) Jim __________________ Clarksburg, NJ - Zone 6b Wishlist - A wise man recommended: Nero600M . Malta Black . Tacoma (Takoma) Violet . Gino's . Adriatic JH . Vista Mission . Florea . Atreano . ...also...RdB, Bethlehem Black, Negronne, Grise de St. Jean, Livano, Col de Dame Blanc/Gris/Noir, Vasilika Sika, Longue D'Aout, Italian 258, Pennsylvania 6-5000

bullet08

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Posted 1398807375	Reply with quote #9

just one of those random thoughts... i was reading about type of bag to use. mesh bag so the spores can be distributed... then for whatever reason, it just made sense. of course, it might be turkeys like BT... after all... they are turkeys... __________________ Pete Durham, NC Zone 7b "don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher *** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. * * and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...***

Grasa

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Posted 1398809003	Reply with quote #10

i simply love this forum! you crack me up! here is more description for you. http://www.monrovia.com/gardening-videos/figs/ __________________ Grasa Seattle, WA

needaclone

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Posted 1398809575	Reply with quote #11

Grasa, I don't get it....that video had NOTHING to do with hunting for morel mushrooms! Cheers, Jim __________________ Clarksburg, NJ - Zone 6b Wishlist - A wise man recommended: Nero600M . Malta Black . Tacoma (Takoma) Violet . Gino's . Adriatic JH . Vista Mission . Florea . Atreano . ...also...RdB, Bethlehem Black, Negronne, Grise de St. Jean, Livano, Col de Dame Blanc/Gris/Noir, Vasilika Sika, Longue D'Aout, Italian 258, Pennsylvania 6-5000

FMD

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Posted 1398818812	Reply with quote #12

Sorry, but you are all wrong on the origin of the name Brown Turkey. It has nothing to do with the country. Gather round and experience a true mind blowing epiphany.... If you look at a ripe BT from the perspective of its fat derrière it appears exactly like a turkey, fan feathers in the back and gobbler in the front. Anyway, that's my epiphany and I'm sticking to it. __________________ Frank Tallahassee, FL Zone 8b North Florida Figs

AmandaLovesFigs

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Posted 1398819528	Reply with quote #13

I was thinking the same thing after I bought my BT. The name is off putting! It would sound better if it was called a Turkish Brown... wait, maybe not. lol It needs a new name. but would a fig by any other name taste as sweet? __________________ USA zone 8A: 4 fig trees! Celeste, BT, Magnolia, and Ischia (not sure if white or green) wish list: got all I need for now I think, fingers crossed the cuttings given to me take root for me! Panachee, St Jean de Grise and BlackJack!

jdsfrance

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Posted 1398846381	Reply with quote #14

Hi, To start with, why the hell is that name brownturkey ? That fig tree has been certainly living in non english countries and yet the name that it is called in even in France is Brownturkey . That I know, England does not have a very suitable climate for figs. So each time, I'm wondering ... WHY the hell ? I could understand "figue brune de Turquie" or "Türkei braun Feige" ... something in Turkey language but "BrownTurkey" I really don't understand ... So Bullet08, while you are at it, if you find the answer I'm interested in that one ... Or is it that English people need to put a name on everything they touch but the others don't need to ... But can't those scientists just find names according to the place they find the vegies ? I know about that one so, don't throw in the story of the name kiwi ... Marketing they say ! __________________ ------------------------ Climate from -25°C to + 35°C Only cold hardy figtrees can make it here

gorgi

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Posted 1398849218	Reply with quote #15

Very funny, me too! One of my first figs I bought here in the USA came as a BT. The 2 others were a TE and a Celeste. The BT and TE turned out to be the same exact fig (different vendors)! They are often available from Encanto Farms as BT/TE_(1,2). Sometimes, the ripe fruit looked just a cooked 'Brown Thanksgiving Turkey'; and so I for a long time; assumed that the word 'turkey' was pointing to 'the bird'. I think that it was Herman who enlightened me that actually it points to 'the country'! He also dubbed them 'Long Brown Honey'. The leaves are very nice finger-like (Brunswick) but the (more moisture resistant) fruit is definitely not a Brunswick fig.... __________________ George, NJ_z7a.

loquat1

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Posted 1398859954	Reply with quote #16

I thought Brown Turkey was purple when ripe? I bought a tree that was labeled BT from our local Garden Centre (Ruxley Manor), but it was identified as a Gene Vashon by forum members. How about that for added confusion? Can anyone get it right these days? I can't even trust a 'respectable' vendor anymore. __________________ Costas

rafed

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Posted 1398862320	Reply with quote #17

Pete A bottle of Wild Turkey is in order. Weekend is coming up.

bullet08

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Posted 1398862421	Reply with quote #18

rafed, i was thinking just the same. __________________ Pete Durham, NC Zone 7b "don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher *** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. * * and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...***

needaclone

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Posted 1398864659	Reply with quote #19

Jdsfrance, Scientists have a non-english name for it... or at least partially non-english. It is...wait for it... Ficus carica 'Brown Turkey' ;-) Cheers, Jim __________________ Clarksburg, NJ - Zone 6b Wishlist - A wise man recommended: Nero600M . Malta Black . Tacoma (Takoma) Violet . Gino's . Adriatic JH . Vista Mission . Florea . Atreano . ...also...RdB, Bethlehem Black, Negronne, Grise de St. Jean, Livano, Col de Dame Blanc/Gris/Noir, Vasilika Sika, Longue D'Aout, Italian 258, Pennsylvania 6-5000

needaclone

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Posted 1398865647	Reply with quote #20

OK, I am proposing a new name...a more meaningful name...one befitting its origins and color... Pachalafaka Purple I first heard the term on the Muppet Show. Apparently Soupy Sales did a version (somewhat before my time...) And the original is by Henry Mancini. If you don't view the videos, at least get a chuckle from the "diskography" of the original version -- it's from a '1958 album from the brand new Warner Brothers label called "Terribly Sophisticated Songs: A Collection Of Unpopular Songs For Popular People."' Enjoy. Jim __________________ Clarksburg, NJ - Zone 6b Wishlist - A wise man recommended: Nero600M . Malta Black . Tacoma (Takoma) Violet . Gino's . Adriatic JH . Vista Mission . Florea . Atreano . ...also...RdB, Bethlehem Black, Negronne, Grise de St. Jean, Livano, Col de Dame Blanc/Gris/Noir, Vasilika Sika, Longue D'Aout, Italian 258, Pennsylvania 6-5000

bullet08

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Posted 1398866042	Reply with quote #21

mahna mahna.. lol __________________ Pete Durham, NC Zone 7b "don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher *** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. * * and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...***

Vladis

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Posted 1398869999	Reply with quote #22

In Russia, Brown Turkey, Turkish Brown called. In Russia, no Violet Brown Turkey __________________ Зона 8Б ,Туапсе, Россия.

loquat1

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Posted 1398870381	Reply with quote #23

Well, that's impaled it. __________________ Costas

Pattee

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Posted 1398870682	Reply with quote #24

This is all too funy , love the epiphany , suppositions , ideas. Poor thing really does need a makeover, aka a new name- just to add to the confusion. Pete thanks for starting this , very entertaining and enlightening lol! __________________ 7a & 9b ►I assume all my figs carry FMV ◄ Seeking : Italian 376,395 , Galicia Negra, Negretta,UNK Pastilliere ,Pananas Purple, Malta Blk+purple/red, Italian + Calabrian UNK's , Catanzaro, Malone, Sucrette(Baud) "We may have our private opinions but why should they be a bar to the meeting of hearts?" - Gandhi

Joe_Athens1945

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Posted 1398872828	Reply with quote #25

Well, we are thankful for the virtually indestructable Brown Turkey - the gold standard fig of the Home Depots and the Lowes Hardware landscaping departments. As for me, I bought mine at a farmers market in Statham, Georgia Cost me $4 for a 3 foot tall plant in a 1 gallon container. Guy threw in a quart of ripe figs, too. (he did not what tree they were from) :-) __________________ Athens, GA USA Zone 7b My young trees in the ground and in pots: Brown Turkey, White Triana JM, Magnolia, Strawberry Verte, Violette de Bordeaux, Panache, UK Brooklyn Dark JP, Ronde de Bordeaux. Wish list: St Rita

GeneDaniels

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Posted 1398874280	Reply with quote #26

Pete, considering all the bad press BT gets, I was expecting you to say something like "It is a brown, 'turkey' of a fig" ;-) All kidding aside, you know what a good fig is? Any variety that tastes good and produces well in your climate. Here in zone 7, I will take a fruit-laiden BT in my yard over a frost-killed boutique fig any day. __________________ Zone 7b (Central Arkansas) Seven trees in the ground: Hardy Chicago, Celeste(?), LSU gold, Italian Black, Southern Brown Turkey(?), Strawberry Verte, and Unk yellow. Trees in pots: VdB, CdD, and Sicilian?

bullet08

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Posted 1398876263	Reply with quote #27

gene, yupe some fig is better than no fig. good thing i make sure i got good figs here :) it's a bit of a work, but the small amount that i get is enough for my wife and i. __________________ Pete Durham, NC Zone 7b "don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher *** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. * * and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...***

susieqz

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Posted 1398877372	Reply with quote #28

fun thread, pete. __________________ susie wish list: nothing. i can't grow cuttings . right now, i have 6 trees showing no signs of fmv. i'd like to keep it that way' i was told that if i couldn't deal with fmv, i should grow peaches, so i got a peach tree to live with my clean figs.

kenny

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Posted 1399264474	Reply with quote #29

lol __________________ Wish list: Black Madeira. Zidi and more... 2nd year in pots: Adriatic JH, VdB, RdB, Angelo's Dark, Antonio'd Black, Nero600M, Flanders, Petite Negra. 1st year in pot:Galicia Negra, White Genoa, Black Mission, and other unknown figs I gather last year. Rooting now: Varieties of Greek figs and more dark unknown figs.

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