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sparklette3

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Posted 1400370290	Reply with quote #1

Hello everyone! I'll start by telling you who I am, where I live and what zone I'm in. My name is Mare, I live in Enumclaw Washington in zone 7b. Last year for my birthday, my husband took me to Raintree Nursery. He bought me a Desert King, a Lattarula, Black Turkey and Peter's honey. They came in one gallon pots and I put them in larger pots for the summer. I brought them into the garage for the winter, which was mild. They did not go dormant, instead they grew more shoots and began to leaf out in January. Anyway, they are currently still in the pots and I want to plant them - any advice on prepping soil, etc.? The soil in our yard has more clay than loose soil. Also, there aren't any figs developing, and there are these little (about 1/4 inch long) green bugs that hop from plant to plant and eat the leaves. Any advice or help will be greatly appreciated. I LOVE figs and I really want them to grow. Thank-You!!!

dkirtexas

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Posted 1400375655	Reply with quote #2

Let me be the first to welcome you to our little part of the world. As to your planting, I can't help other than to suggest you watch for some of our Washington members and ask them. __________________ Thx, glad to be here Danny K "EL CAZADOR DE HIGO" Waskom Tx Zone 7B/8 Wish list: anything anyone wants me to have. LSU RED. Any LSU fig.

javajunkie

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Posted 1400376295	Reply with quote #3

Hi Mare and welcome! We moved down here from Kirkland! I would mix pine needles into your soil with compost and a little lime and they should take off. A healthy dose of composted manure would be great as well. (That's my organic receipe) lol You can either dig out the hole and mix that soil or just dig a hole and backfill with a mixture. Even the clay in Washington seems better than the soil I run into here! __________________ Tami SE Texas

bullet08

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Posted 1400388244	Reply with quote #4

dig a big hole, about 2x the depth of your root ball, and 3x wide. mix half the soil you pulled out with half of some soil conditional.. like what tami said above. put them in ground and hope it doesn't rain too much. problem with clay soil is, it can create what some people call clay jar. it will trap water and if water doesn't drain fast enough.. roots will start to rot sitting in the standing water. one of the reason why i keep all my trees in containers. __________________ Pete Durham, NC Zone 7b "don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher *** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. * * and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...***

Nichole

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Posted 1400391851	Reply with quote #5

The advice has been dealt, just wanted to welcome you from Maple Valley! __________________ Seattle area - Zone 8b http://www.niroha.com Fig Inventory https://sites.google.com/site/nicholesgardeninventory/fig-trees Wish list: Barbillone, Black Triana, Brooklyn Dark, Brooklyn White, Figo Branco, Figo Preto, Grantham Royal, Grisse de St Jean, Honey Jumbo, LSU Gold, LSU Scott's Yellow, Matta, Noire De Caromb, Panevino Dark, Roja, Syrian Long, Uncle Corky's Honey Delight

cis4elk

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Posted 1400392104	Reply with quote #6

Do a drainage test to find out whether you will get the clay jar Pete mentioned or not. To do this you dig a hole about 18 inches deep, it doesn't have to be really wide, just wide enough to dig to the depth your trying to get to. Get most the loose soil out and then take a garden hose and fill the hole with water. Then you check it every 15 minutes to see how long it takes the water to disappear. Obviously if you get past the first few checks and the water isn't going away very fast you would extend the time intervals to 30 minutes or an hour or.... The point is, if it takes a really long time for the water to completely disappear, then you may want to think about making a raised box/bed/mound or something similar filled with a soil that drains. Then your tree can send some roots down into the native ground yet still have some up where they aren't soaking and can get some air when it rains. __________________ Calvin Littleton,CO z5/6 Wants List: For everyone to clean-up after themselves and co-exist peacefully. Let's think more about the future of our planet and less about ourselves. :)

Pattee

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Posted 1400424816	Reply with quote #7

Welcome Mare , good luck with your trees! __________________ 7a & 9b ►I assume all my figs carry FMV ◄ Seeking : Italian 376,395 , Galicia Negra, Negretta,UNK Pastilliere ,Pananas Purple, Malta Blk+purple/red, Italian + Calabrian UNK's , Catanzaro, Malone, Sucrette(Baud) "We may have our private opinions but why should they be a bar to the meeting of hearts?" - Gandhi

sparklette3

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Posted 1400428358	Reply with quote #8

Thank-you everyone for all of your great advice! I think I'll try the drainage test first. We may have a higher water table in some parts of our yard... BTY, did all of you get your figs as actual trees (with branches and all), or did you get them in small pots, a single 'stem' attached to a bamboo stake? that's how mine were, and now I'm just getting more shoots coming out of the bottom, but no branching from the main 'stem'. Should I cut away all the new gangly growth or are they supposed to do that?

javajunkie

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Posted 1400428697	Reply with quote #9

It all depends on your preference. If you want a proper tree cut off the ganglies as they come, if you want a bush leave them on. Wait for the main stem to get as tall as you want it then pinch off the terminal bud to get it to branch. We have all bought trees but I think most of our collections we have started as scion. Have a look at all the introductory info at the top of the list. You will learn a ton. __________________ Tami SE Texas

rcantor

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Posted 1400444388	Reply with quote #10

Welcome! Another way to avoid the clay jar is to stick your shovel in to the bottom and sides of the hole, lever a crack open and fill the crack with peat moss, leaves, grass clippings, etc. You want it to be things worms will eat. Once the tree is planted cover the hole with mulch. Over the years worms will be attracted to the food and till your soil for you and you'll eventually have great soil. If you can't pass the drain test leave your plants in pots or raised beds and do what they told you above anyway. When the soil is good then you can plant other things there. As far as the green bugs, a photo might help. Spraying with safer soap often helps. Some like neem oil. Eventually the leaves get so tough that the number of things willing to eat them decreases. __________________ Zone 6, MO Wish list: Galicia Negra, De La Reina - Pons, Genovese Nero - Rafed's, Sbayi, Souadi, Acciano, Any Rimada, Sodus Sicilian, any Bass, Pons or Axier fig, any great tasting fig.

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