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Did anyone get this tree to fruit yet? I understand all the ones that were distributed among us were seedlings. I hope some will actually start fruiting.
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Bass,

I had one fruit formed late last season, but did not mature. Pix at Figs 4 Fun. So, there is hope.
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Here's a photo I got from an Israeli fig grower when I showed him my afghanistanica leaves.


And here's the fruit:
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Bass,

The fig in the picture is growing on previous year wood, correct? 

Jon, was the single fruit you got on current year growth?

I was just curious.  My plant is still an infant.  It will be at least a couple of years before I see any fruit first hand.

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Current year's growth.
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The caption on the picture says "Male Afghan".  Does anyone know if female afghans need pollination, or if the males are edible?
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I lost contact with the person who's growing this fig in Israel. My guess is some seedlings of the afghan fig need caprification, and some don't. Just like Ficus Carica some seedlings will bear with no pollination and some seedlings will need it.
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Thanks Bass.
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Hello,
I came upon an interesting write up on Ficus Johannis subspecies Afghanistanica - the Afghan fig. This is written by Arthur Lee Jacobson and appears to be a thorough article. This fig has been a bit of a mystery and the information in the article sheds some light on the issue.

http://www.arthurleej.com/p-o-m-Aug08.html


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Great find!  Thanks
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Yes, thanks Ingevald. I found it interesting that the author's tree is so small and that he would choose to plant it at the base of a tree. For a "plant expert" seems like he made some odd choices.
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Anyone have any updates on their afghan figs?  Burnt Ridge Nursery has what is listed on their website as SILVER LYRE AFGHAN FIG (Ficus Johannis Subsp. afghanistanica) and currently available for $10, small plant. Cistus Nursery has Ficus afghanistanica silver leaf clone aka Silver Lyre, Ficus afghanistanica 'Dwarf Green Filigree' which is detailed as 3ft high x 3ft wide, and Ficus afghanistanica Green Filigree which is detailed at 15-20ft tall.  No mention of a fig wasp being needed in any of the reading that I did.  I just sent an email to Mr. Jacobson to see if he could provide an update on his Afghan fig & asked if he knew if it required the fig wasp to set the fruit.  If he responds I will update here. 

I found this info at http://plantlust.com/search/#/genus=Ficus
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You're never the one to turn a blind eye to a beautiful leaf!
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Guilty   LOL
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Careful with plantlust.com, they are a registered spam site.
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I have a very small Afghanistanica in a 1-gallon plastic pot. The plant consists of 7 or 8 small trunks, total growth no more than 10-12 inches tall. It is this season's growth from an in-ground plant that formerly grew on the property of what used to be Paradise Nursery. It had died to the ground the past few years (unprotected location) during the winter and the owner told me I was welcome to dig it up and try to regrow it in a more sheltered location. That was back in March or April so I'm glad it grew as much as it did this year. Will no doubt be a few years before it produces figs, if I'm fortunate to keep it alive long enough.
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@vaplantman:  would love to see photo if you can?   Thank you.
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Saramc, here are two pics of my Afghanistanica.  The first is an overall shot of the plant.  It's appx 12" tall.  The second is a close-up pic of some leaves.  The leaves are fairly small, about 2-3".

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Is this a dwarf plant? The leaves look very small, pretty neat.
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I'm not sure if it is a "dwarf" tree. The previous owner of the tree (a well respected former fig nursery owner in Virginia Beach) said it was an Afghanistanica. I don't remember where she said she originally obtained the plant. It is definitely small. Thin branches and 2-3" leaves. I will try to follow up with her for more specific info.
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Has anyone got fruit with Afghanistanica since ?

Here are my new cuttings (with characteristic leaves) :

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Wow, old thread, 5 years should determine if this was a dwarf or not!
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I just bought a couple seedlings since this thread motivated me to explore the internet... a dangerous thing somethimes!

Ficus afghanistanica 'Silver Lyre'
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I have 6 rooted cuttings of F. Afghanistanica I got from a very reliable source. My leaves look different then those planteur123's has posted.
I do remember (I think) an old post saying there were two different varieties. Does anyone know if this is the case?
As these plants are young I know we can't rely too much on leaf shape, but if there are 2 varieties I'd sure like to trade for the one I don't have yet.
My plants have leaves like those in post #18.
JackHNVA - do your plants have leaves that match those pictured?
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My cuttings and post #18 look the same. I got the cuttings last December from a public collection here in Paris (the "french uc-davis" ?), I do not know where they came from but I suspect they themselves are cuttings from the Jardin botanique de Strasbourg, which has an old afghanistanica grown from a seed got 30 years ago in Yalta and which allegedly gives fruit...
They are fighting against mold since one month, and they are outdoors since three days, because spring is coming. I hope they will survive.
Persian mountain fig may be the true pure afghanistanica figs with their digitated leaves, whereas our ones could be hybrids with carica or palmata ; who knows ? The origin of our carica fig itself is unclear, it could be derivated from palmata x afghanistanica hybrids
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The plants that are being sold in the USA were apparently started from seed  so likely differences have been seen, and  will be seen in terms of genetic spins
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Has anyone got fruit by now ? the topic was started five years ago, seedlings should be mature now perhaps
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I have 2 variants of F.a.

Both have nice leaves and exhibit dwarfish thin-twig busy-growth.
One has a more greenish leaf; the other (my favorite), has
a more sand-papery, silver-ish, & more-lacey-like leaves.

One pic of the later is attached, though it does not show clear what I said.
Also, it could be a much happier young plant.

I do not expect fruit from any; both are just (more hardy) decorative fig plants for me...

BTW, both were originally bought as (mistaken) seedlings
of F.sycamorus! After some good inquiring/questions with the vendor,
I was finally told they were actually F.afghanistanica and that
the seeds originally came from somewhere in Iran.

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Mine passed away.
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Here is what they should look like once mature

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Given the terrain in the background I assume that's in the central asia region? Handsome tree!
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Bumping this thread for any kind of update.

Went on a nursery spree today, and found this fig at my last stop. I was charmed by the silvery, sharp-edged leaves. It really was the most beautiful fig tree I've seen. However they were large and pricey, so I didn't get one.

But I was curious if anyone has one that fruited. The tag on the trees stated it bore small, edible fruit.
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Ema,
There are 2 colors. A green one and one that has a silvery tint called Silver Lyre (I think my memory is right on this). I have a couple green ones. I have not seen any fruit nor do I know any one who has. One of the Silver Lyre sold recently on Ebay.
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Yes, I saw the pics with fruiting. But I should have clarified if anyone got theirs to fruit in a non-wasp area.
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Did anyone get this tree to fruit yet? I understand all the ones that were distributed among us were seedlings. I hope some will actually start fruiting.



The ask is: Who have had Fruit from Johannis Wild Figs and from the other afghan wild Figs?

Have afghan Kultur Figs Fruit without Pollution? Dealer says yes.

In 4 years i can say what is correct. In this Time my Seedlings old enougt.
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The best answer is:A few female specimen coming out from plants,grown from seeds,will be parthenocarpic and produce fruits without pollination.
The rest,most of them,like 99 percent,needs pollination ,or ,are males ,and so they will not produce fruits.
I have both cultivars described above,for about 10 years in ground now,and only the one with silver leaves produced small fruits,that will fall off ,half grown.
These are wonderfull decorative trees,but if you want fruits get a known cultivar of Ficus carica,and if you are in Germany get an early ripening cultivar if you want ripe fruits,something like Ronde de Bordeaux,and you will be happy.
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It gives more Quetions. Wild Figs not only Male, they are "Zwitter" Male and Women. They have 3 Forms from Flowers. In Afghanistan makes also the "Zwitter" Fruits. Must they have also most Pollutions?
Can Zwitter/Wild Fig in North Countrys built from all 3 Flowers Fruits, if Parthenocarp?
From my other Seedlings 4 years old have 3 Plant fruit, what to this time was not to eat. My Seedling Albshausen have had the first Fruit to eat.
I am Lucky about my Seedlings. They my hardest Fig Plant. They can be big Trees in a Klima what normal not have big Fig Trees.
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Here is what they should look like once mature


I thing they Plant afghan Kultur Fig. I have also a new Cutting from a afghan Kultur Fig. The Dealer have sayd they have yellow Fruit with good Taste.
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I have 2 variants of F.a.

Both have nice leaves and exhibit dwarfish thin-twig busy-growth.
One has a more greenish leaf; the other (my favorite), has
a more sand-papery, silver-ish, & more-lacey-like leaves.

One pic of the later is attached, though it does not show clear what I said.
Also, it could be a much happier young plant.

I do not expect fruit from any; both are just (more hardy) decorative fig plants for me...

BTW, both were originally bought as (mistaken) seedlings
of F.sycamorus! After some good inquiring/questions with the vendor,
I was finally told they were actually F.afghanistanica and that
the seeds originally came from somewhere in Iran.


Mine is just like this in leaf shape and leaf size. It is about 12" tall with a tight, compact, pyramidal shape. My plant was purchased at the Staten Island Fig Fest last summer from Danny (NYC Figs) I would guess it was 3-4 years old judging by the branching structure. I do not expect any figs from it any time soon.

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Here is the new Variity Kunduz. Its born in Germany by the River Lahn: Kunduzklein.jpg 

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