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Hoosierguy86

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Posted 1406584033	Reply with quote #1

Fig is hardy Chicago. Brown spots and sometimes white coming out. These are the first figs I have ever seen in person to reach this size (about the size of a quarter) but I don't think this is natural? Attached Images 2014-07-28_17.43.11-2.jpg (84.41 KB, 46 views) __________________ Scott N. Indiana 5b/6a

twovkay

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Posted 1406585242	Reply with quote #2

Scott, My Hardy Chicago gets to about quarter size before they stall, then swell and ripen. It looks like damage from a bug that pierced the fruit. Only suggestion is to cover the fruit with the organza bags until they are ready to go. I had a few that looked like that last year and they seemed to ripen anyway. __________________ Von Northern VA 7a

dfoster25

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Posted 1406592507	Reply with quote #3

About a week ago someone posted something similar. Someone said FMV was the culprit. I thought that made the most sense. __________________ Zone 6, SE MICHIGAN -14F 1-7-14 -23F 2-?-15 6F 1-18-16

Hoosierguy86

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Posted 1406592979	Reply with quote #4

Hmmm. Both interesting theories. I will put some organza bags on them and see if they improve. I am wondering if they will still be OK to eat? If they fully ripen I will let people know before I eat them and if I stop posting it would probably be good to steer clear! =). I have seen one wasp hanging around the figs every afternoon. I will try to get a close up pic next time I see it. Also wanted to note it has been an unusually cool summer with record lows at night. Not sure if that matters. Thanks all! __________________ Scott N. Indiana 5b/6a

Aaron4USA

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Posted 1406600751	Reply with quote #5

Scott, is the tree under a sprinkler zone? Looks like water drop burns...like a Magnifying glass effect. Sometimes if it's only white stuff coming out from many places means it has been Wasp piercings ...but in your zone...I don't now.

cis4elk

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Posted 1406607095	Reply with quote #6

Not wasp damage. They have a sweet tooth and that fig isn't sweet yet. Another point is that their mandibles are like tin snips, they carve out a chunk and carry it off. Word then gets out and it's buddies come back, the feast is on. __________________ Calvin Littleton,CO z5/6 Wants List: For everyone to clean-up after themselves and co-exist peacefully. Let's think more about the future of our planet and less about ourselves. :)

jdsfrance

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Posted 1406628488	Reply with quote #7

Hi hoosierhuy86, Is the tree young ? Sometimes young trees will make such figs. Did the tree suffer from too much shadowing (fruit is light colored) ? Lake of watering ? Is the tree in ground ? Fertilized ? Does the tree have more figs ? they look healthy ? If so, I would protect the ones that still look healthy and probably remove that bad looking fig. That fig is not round shaped so it will probably not ripen properly - sometimes figs come out half ripen and half corky - but the decision is yours ! The shape of the stains makes me think more of repeated shocks against a stem, wall or tree . Is something possibly colliding that fig with wind help ? __________________ ------------------------ Climate from -25°C to + 35°C Only cold hardy figtrees can make it here

hoosierbanana

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Posted 1406634337	Reply with quote #8

I have noticed that fuzzy figs are more likely to get it i.e. Black Bethlehem, Black Greek., HC My guess is cercospora leaf spot, it has been documented on fruit. __________________ 7a, DE

garden_whisperer

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Posted 1406635247	Reply with quote #9

almost looks like insect damage, see the same thing on apples fight before finding a worm, somtimes half a worm. just saying __________________ Dave Zone 6b Illinois "Be the change you wish to see in the world"

Hoosierguy86

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Posted 1406639493	Reply with quote #10

Hi everyone, First year tree started from a cutting and in what I would guess is a 5 gallon pot. It is my most vigorous grower. I started the year fertilizing all my figs but they were growing to fast and I couldnt keep on top of constant up potting so I stopped fertilizing. I have to keep figs located on east side of house but I have them probably 10 feet away from the side so they get sun most of the day until about 6p. I usually water every other day since it doesn't rain a lot in the summer. Winds have been very strong. Its amazing to see what the tree are able to take. We had hail over the weekend. Some places even had tennis ball size. This does look a lot like the spots we get on apples and peaches around here but I don't know what those are either. Haha. Finding half a worm is the worst! __________________ Scott N. Indiana 5b/6a

Aaron4USA

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Posted 1406650987	Reply with quote #11

Quote: Originally Posted by cis4elk Not wasp damage. They have a sweet tooth and that fig isn't sweet yet. Another point is that their mandibles are like tin snips, they carve out a chunk and carry it off. Word then gets out and it's buddies come back, the feast is on. Calvin, Wasps aren't just "yellow jackets":) Figs get pollinated by Fig Wasps that are very beneficial tiny insects... But anyhow...I don't think it's wasp penetration marks (the while guwee spots) because wasps can't survive (that we know of so far) the colder states. They like Mediterranean climates.

Hoosierguy86

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Posted 1406653035	Reply with quote #12

Other bugs I have seen around the figs are ants, sow bugs, tiny flies, larger flies, crickets, and worms are under the pots in the mulch. __________________ Scott N. Indiana 5b/6a

james

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Posted 1406653991	Reply with quote #13

any leaf hoppers or stink bugs? __________________ In containers - Littleton, CO (zone 5b) In ground - N.E of Austin, TX (zone 8b) 2016 Wish List: Dārk Pōrtuguese, Grānthāms Royāl, Lātarolla, Negrettā, Nōire de Bārbentāne, Rockāway Green, Viōlet Sepōr, Viōlette Dāuphine. Iranian figs are always welcome.

Hoosierguy86

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Posted 1406654364	Reply with quote #14

Hi James, haven't seen any around the area for a while. Definitely none this year. I did notice that the HC so far is the only one with this happening. Once the others develops larger figs I can post an update to see if certain ones are doing it. __________________ Scott N. Indiana 5b/6a

james

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Posted 1406655752	Reply with quote #15

It looks like something pierced the skin to suck out some of the liquid. Stink bugs are known to do this. In Texas they leave my figs alone because they are too busy swarming the pomegranates. Leaf hoppers do this to the leaves, but this year I saw one on a small fig and noticed a depression later. It could be coincidence. You may want to inspect the trees (under the leaves especially) with a flashlight after dark. You may find a different culprit roaming around. __________________ In containers - Littleton, CO (zone 5b) In ground - N.E of Austin, TX (zone 8b) 2016 Wish List: Dārk Pōrtuguese, Grānthāms Royāl, Lātarolla, Negrettā, Nōire de Bārbentāne, Rockāway Green, Viōlet Sepōr, Viōlette Dāuphine. Iranian figs are always welcome.

Chivas

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Posted 1406665196	Reply with quote #16

Need more calicum __________________ Canada Zone 6B

kubota1

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Posted 1406668614	Reply with quote #17

Scott, This year I'm seeing that on most of my Mt Etna type trees. __________________ Art- Western Pa. 6a

gorgi

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Posted 1406669522	Reply with quote #18

I have no idea - I have never seen anything like that ... I had reported before that some of my unripe figlets were (mysteriously) oozing white sap from the still green skin. (probably insect bites?) Is this a similar cause but with a later result? __________________ George, NJ_z7a.

rcantor

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Posted 1406677278	Reply with quote #19

I vote for fungus. :) __________________ Zone 6, MO Wish list: Galicia Negra, De La Reina - Pons, Genovese Nero - Rafed's, Sbayi, Souadi, Acciano, Any Rimada, Sodus Sicilian, any Bass, Pons or Axier fig, any great tasting fig.

drphil69

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Posted 1406687205	Reply with quote #20

Quote: Originally Posted by james It looks like something pierced the skin to suck out some of the liquid. Stink bugs are known to do this. In Texas they leave my figs alone because they are too busy swarming the pomegranates. Leaf hoppers do this to the leaves, but this year I saw one on a small fig and noticed a depression later. It could be coincidence. You may want to inspect the trees (under the leaves especially) with a flashlight after dark. You may find a different culprit roaming around. I have some leaf hoppers on my figs, the stink bugs are busy on my cucumbers. I don't see any damaged figs due to them. I didn't think they (leaf hoppers) were that bad, I just kill them by hand and wipe all the white stuff off. I got tons of them in my blackberries. __________________ Phil - Zone 7A - Newark, DE Newbie fig lover just trying to learn.

Hoosierguy86

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Posted 1406687831	Reply with quote #21

More photos. First two are HC. Last is unk Hopefully these show up detailed. I only notice this so far on the HC. All other varieties with figs are green but to small to tell at this point. __________________ Scott N. Indiana 5b/6a

Hershell

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Posted 1406689442	Reply with quote #22

Fungus. Think of how a rose leaf looks when fungus starts. Look at how many fungicides are sold. __________________ Hershell Zone 8. Ray City, Ga.

Hoosierguy86

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Posted 1406690147	Reply with quote #23

Don't know what a rose leaf with fungus looks.like but these are right next to rose bushes! I will have to check the roses __________________ Scott N. Indiana 5b/6a

Hershell

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Posted 1406690684	Reply with quote #24

Some roses are resistant to fungus. Knockout is probably the most well known. __________________ Hershell Zone 8. Ray City, Ga.

Hoosierguy86

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Posted 1406743809	Reply with quote #25

Check this out! Went out on my lunch and look at the rose that is practically touching the HC. What do I do about fungus? __________________ Scott N. Indiana 5b/6a

twovkay

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Posted 1406745387	Reply with quote #26

For roses, remove the leaves and start spraying with a fungicide every 2-3 weeks. Roses are very hard to grow in my area. The conditions are just not right for it here. I had to make to sure to feed with a systemic feeder every 6 weeks and spray the fungicide every 2 weeks and I still had issues with growing them. I finally gave up and admire my father-in-laws roses when I visit Portland, OR. If you visit a big box store, they will have ready to use rose fungicide and concentrate. __________________ Von Northern VA 7a

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