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HELLO... CAN ANYONE HELP ME?

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THESE FIGS TASTE LIKE FROM TURKEY? THEY'RE CALLED

SARIZEYBEK FIG'S????
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I do not know what they taste like. Are you referring to the ones listed on ebay? I would check the regulations before buying them if you wanted to get them in the US.
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YES, THE CUTTINGS ON EBAY... SO MAYBE YOU THINK THAT THEY WOULD BE STOPPED BY INSPECTORS OR SOMETHING BEFORE THEY COULD GET TO ME?
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281200178802&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123
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http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/usda-man-shows-up-6543330
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I was trying to find the restricted countries list I thought it was on the forum somewhere. I didn't think there were that many that weren't restricted though
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WELL, YOUR PROBABLY RIGHT.. I GUESS I'M JUST GOING TO HAVE TO ASK THE SELLER IF HE HAS ANY PROBLEMS SHIPPING FROM TURKEY TO THE UNITED STATES WITH THESE THINGS... I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT WHENEVER I GET NEW CUTTINGS FROM ANYWHERE, I USE A BLEACH/SOAP MIX WITH A TOOTHBRUSH AND GO OVER THE CUTTINGS REAL GOOD AND THEM WASH THEM OFF RIGHT AWAY REAL GOOD SO THAT THERE IS NO CHANCE FOR DISEASE OF ANY KIND TO COME FROM THE OUTSIDE OT THEM ANYWAYS....
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SORRY ABOUT THE WAIT, BUT I HAD A TURKEY WE BOUGHT TODAY AND I HAD TO GET IT INTO THE OVEN SO IT WOULD START BAKING!!! YUMM YUMM!!! YOUNG TURKEY... HEY, AT 60CTS PER LB YOU CAN'T BEAT THAT ANYWHERE RIGHT NOW... AND THAT WAS AT WAL-MART...
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ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP LOOKING FOR THAT RESTRICTIONS LIST TRAVIS?
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Nah.
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I JUST ASKED THE GUY IF HE'S HAD ANY TROUBLE SO I SHOULD GET SOME KIND OF ANSWER OUT OF HIM... THANKS FOR THE IMPUT TRAVIS...
VIC.
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OMG not trying to be rude but please turn off the caps button and welcome to the forum.
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I use it because i have diabetes and i'm old and it's hard to see.. sorry.. and thanks for the welcoming!!
think i'm going to like it here!!
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http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/usda-man-shows-up-6543330


Thanks Figaro... i guess i won't be getting those figs from turkey after all after reading all that you posted and sent me... i don't want to take a chance on them getting my cuttings or on them maybe getting part of my rear end either!! ha!!
THANKS AGAIN FOR THE HEADS UP!!!

VICSTER
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APHIS (USDA) emailed me the regs that went into effect last May.  You can import from Canada and, with some conditions, may be able to import from Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Guatemala, Mexico, Thailand and may be able to import from China, Netherlands, Taiwan if cuttings are coming from a beetle-free area.  But all other countries are prohibited.  And you must have an import permit to legally import cuttings.

APHIS is monitoring the transactions from international eBay sellers.

Here is a heading in the regulations which you can search online if you want to find it online:

FEDERAL ORDER
DA-2013-18
May 09, 2013
For the Importation of Host Material of
Anoplophora chinensis, the citrus longhorned beetle, and
Anoplophora glabripennis, Asian longhorned beetle
This Federal Order is effective on May 20, 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HarveyC
APHIS (USDA) emailed me the regs that went into effect last May.  You can import from Canada and, with some conditions, may be able to import from Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Guatemala, Mexico, Thailand and may be able to import from China, Netherlands, Taiwan if cuttings are coming from a beetle-free area.  But all other countries are prohibited.  And you must have an import permit to legally import cuttings.

APHIS is monitoring the transactions from international eBay sellers.

Here is a heading in the regulations which you can search online if you want to find it online:

FEDERAL ORDER
DA-2013-18
May 09, 2013
For the Importation of Host Material of
Anoplophora chinensis, the citrus longhorned beetle, and
Anoplophora glabripennis, Asian longhorned beetle
This Federal Order is effective on May 20, 2013


THANKS FOR THIS IMPORTANT INFORMATION.. I'M DEFINATELY NOT BUYING ANYTHING FROM OVERSEAS OR EVEN CONSIDERING IT NOW!! I'M TOO OLD TO GO TO JAIL...
THANKS AGAIN..
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There is plenty of very good proven fig cultivars available right in good old USA for all, all, ALL of us here...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HarveyC
APHIS (USDA) emailed me the regs that went into effect last May.  You can import from Canada and, with some conditions, may be able to import from Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Guatemala, Mexico, Thailand and may be able to import from China, Netherlands, Taiwan if cuttings are coming from a beetle-free area.  But all other countries are prohibited.  And you must have an import permit to legally import cuttings.

APHIS is monitoring the transactions from international eBay sellers.

Here is a heading in the regulations which you can search online if you want to find it online:

FEDERAL ORDER
DA-2013-18
May 09, 2013
For the Importation of Host Material of
Anoplophora chinensis, the citrus longhorned beetle, and
Anoplophora glabripennis, Asian longhorned beetle
This Federal Order is effective on May 20, 2013


THANKS HARVEY.. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR... THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH... EVERYONE ON THIS SITE HAS BEEN SO HELPFUL YOU JUST DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU...  THANKS AGAIN FOR THE HEADS-UP.....
VIC
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Someone has an ad on E-bay for this variety and the shipping location was either Maryland or Jersey. Have been giving this some thought but do not know whether the source is truly domestic or not.They have 8 or 9 cuttings still available. Debating whether to tempt fate or not.
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Originally Posted by MariannaMiller
Someone has an ad on E-bay for this variety and the shipping location was either Maryland or Jersey. Have been giving this some thought but do not know whether the source is truly domestic or not.They have 8 or 9 cuttings still available. Debating whether to tempt fate or not.


HI MARIANNA... CAN YOU GIVE ME THE EBAY NUMBER? I DON'T SEE IT?
THANKS
VIC.
APPRECIATE YOUR INFO AND HELP..

CAPS FOR ME IS NOT SCREAMING.. I'M OLD AND HARD TO SEE..
VIC
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>>> APHIS is monitoring the transactions from international eBay sellers.
No surprise here!
Nowadays; our BIG Uncle Sam is monitoring our own private emails,
foreign leader's cell phones, plus a whole lot more...

[E: Slowly but surely, this our country for the "free", is lately being
eroded b/c of both the lack of good leadership and deceit involved.
One other nasty thing ... beware of any possible inside spying moles.]
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In January, put a message up on F4F indicating that you are interested in this cultivar.  Perhaps someone will have a cutting or two that they would be willing to sell.  Last spring I was able to get a cutting but unfortunately due to lack of enough experience rooting figs, I lost it. Hoping to obtain more cuttings in the future and taking another go at getting them to grow in this area. Think from what I have been told, they should be hardy here or at least in zone 8 where I have a place to park a couple of fig trees.
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In pots: Ashlan, Atreano, Blk Bethlehem, El Molino Unk.,Excel, DK, Gr. Ischia, Kadota, Lattarula, Nero 600, VDB, Olympian, Petit Negri, Unk. Plainfield, Unk. Slidell Blk, Sweet George, Unk Portuguese Purple, Unk. It. Yellow, White Genoa, White Tx Everbearing; Madison SC 29693 (7a/7b)
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Vic - you mention your eyesight and reason you type in caps.

What may help even better than caps -  hold down the Crtl on keybaord with 1 finger and with other finger tap the + on keyboard
see if that works better for you.
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Vic, here is the listing 
 

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In pots: Ashlan, Atreano, Blk Bethlehem, El Molino Unk.,Excel, DK, Gr. Ischia, Kadota, Lattarula, Nero 600, VDB, Olympian, Petit Negri, Unk. Plainfield, Unk. Slidell Blk, Sweet George, Unk Portuguese Purple, Unk. It. Yellow, White Genoa, White Tx Everbearing; Madison SC 29693 (7a/7b)
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Vic, here is the listing 
 THANK YOU MARIANNA... I JUST BOUGHT IT
EVERYONE IS SAYING THAT THESE FIGS TASTE UNBELIEVABLELY FANTASTIC... AND WOW, NOW I HAVE A CUTTING THANKS TO YOU!!!
YOU ARE A1 IN MY BOOK!!! THANK YOU EVER SO MUCH AGAIN AND MAY GOD BLESS!!
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In January, put a message up on F4F indicating that you are interested in this cultivar.  Perhaps someone will have a cutting or two that they would be willing to sell.  Last spring I was able to get a cutting but unfortunately due to lack of enough experience rooting figs, I lost it. Hoping to obtain more cuttings in the future and taking another go at getting them to grow in this area. Think from what I have been told, they should be hardy here or at least in zone 8 where I have a place to park a couple of fig trees.


YOU SAY DUE TO LACK OF ENOUGH EXPERIENCE YOU LOST THE FIG.. WHAT DID YOU DO WRONG WHEN TRYING TO ROOT IT?
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Vic,
Think my problems were being used to rooting roses in a much lower humidity area and using the wrong rooting medium. First I got mold in my ziplock and then to salvage my cuttings before they were too far gone, I rinsed them in a mild clorox solution and planted them in a potting mix which retained too much water.  When I first saw the wilting leaves (some did bud out before I killed them), I thought my cuttings needed more water not realizing that figlets will wilt if they get too much water as well as when they are too dry.

I just managed to root 2 of 4 cuttings I started in early September using the perlite/spaghum moss mixture recommended by the forum.  The dice are still out on the other 2 cuttings but they are a slow growing variety and perhaps just need more time. I will know probably in another month whether one or both of them have taken. One looks promising and the other I have some doubts about. Think rooting cuttings is a bit like making a good pie crust.  Once you identify the right feel for the dough (growing media) you can replicate the process easily but knowing what is too much and what is not enough is hard to identify just from a written description. Nothing breeds success better than success itself.

I bit the bullet and bought one too this afternoon. When I went to look up the listing for you, I found it had already shipped. Hoping to have much better luck this time.  If its not an intrusion, I am curious as to what has attracted you to this cultivar in particular. We have Turks in the family which is how I became interested in some of the Turkish fig varieties. 
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In pots: Ashlan, Atreano, Blk Bethlehem, El Molino Unk.,Excel, DK, Gr. Ischia, Kadota, Lattarula, Nero 600, VDB, Olympian, Petit Negri, Unk. Plainfield, Unk. Slidell Blk, Sweet George, Unk Portuguese Purple, Unk. It. Yellow, White Genoa, White Tx Everbearing; Madison SC 29693 (7a/7b)
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Now if someone wanted to acquire cuttings from one of the restricted countries couldn't the person contact the seller and work out a deal outiside of ebay and have a better chance at not getting them confiscated? Or is all of their outgoing mail screened?
I'm not interested in doing this I'm just curious....
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there are valid reasons for having interdictions.  Had we had some of these in the past we might not have had Dutch Elm Disease or some of the other blights. Many of our insect problems came from hitchhikers on imported plants.  E-bay keeps copies of all correspondence between vendors and prospects.  Although E-bay cancelled the order I attempted to place (naively thinking small cuttings met the stick definition and surely the vendors had the proper paperwork to ship to the US), the USDA was still notified of my attempt to order cuttings from Turkey and I received a letter pointing me to the regulations I had broken.
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In Ground: Alma, Brunswick,Bryant Dark, BT, Celeste, Dominic, HC, It. Honey,LSU Purple, Mission Black, Sarizeybek;  
In pots: Ashlan, Atreano, Blk Bethlehem, El Molino Unk.,Excel, DK, Gr. Ischia, Kadota, Lattarula, Nero 600, VDB, Olympian, Petit Negri, Unk. Plainfield, Unk. Slidell Blk, Sweet George, Unk Portuguese Purple, Unk. It. Yellow, White Genoa, White Tx Everbearing; Madison SC 29693 (7a/7b)
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Vic,
Think my problems were being used to rooting roses in a much lower humidity area and using the wrong rooting medium. First I got mold in my ziplock and then to salvage my cuttings before they were too far gone, I rinsed them in a mild clorox solution and planted them in a potting mix which retained too much water.  When I first saw the wilting leaves (some did bud out before I killed them), I thought my cuttings needed more water not realizing that figlets will wilt if they get too much water as well as when they are too dry.

I just managed to root 2 of 4 cuttings I started in early September using the perlite/spaghum moss mixture recommended by the forum.  The dice are still out on the other 2 cuttings but they are a slow growing variety and perhaps just need more time. I will know probably in another month whether one or both of them have taken. One looks promising and the other I have some doubts about. Think rooting cuttings is a bit like making a good pie crust.  Once you identify the right feel for the dough (growing media) you can replicate the process easily but knowing what is too much and what is not enough is hard to identify just from a written description. Nothing breeds success better than success itself.

I bit the bullet and bought one too this afternoon. When I went to look up the listing for you, I found it had already shipped. Hoping to have much better luck this time.  If its not an intrusion, I am curious as to what has attracted you to this cultivar in particular. We have Turks in the family which is how I became interested in some of the Turkish fig varieties. 


WELL, THE TRUTH IS THAT I WANTED THIS CERTAIN TYPE BECAUSE OF WHAT I'VE HEARD AND READ ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF FIG.. IT'S HUGH FOR ONE THING AND FOR ANOTHER IT IS LIKE ONE OF THE BEST TASTING FIGS YOU COULD EVER GET.. THAT'S WHY I WANTED IT.. I'VE HEARD THAT NOT ONLY ARE THEY EXTREMELY SWEET AND SUGARY BUT ALMOST TASTES LIKE HONEY WHEN YOU BITE INTO THEM.. NOW THAT'S A FIG!! IF IT HADN'T OF BEEN FOR YOU, I STILL WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN ONE FOR MY COLLECTION... I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT GETTING IT AND ROOTING AND PLANTING IT... I TOO AM A BEGINNER WHEN IT COMES TO ROOTING ANYTHING!! AND I'LL BE LEARNING ALSO.. I HAVE WATCHED ALOT ON YOUTUBE ABOUT ROOTING AND YOUR DEFINATELY RIGHT, IT'S A VERY FINE BALANCE ON THE WATERING ASPECT OF ROOTING THESE FIG CUTTINGS..
THE GUY SAYS JUST A QUICK SPRAY OR TWO AT THE MOST AND ALSO HERE IS SOMETHING ELSE HE HAS SAID: There are many ways to start a cutting.   Air layering is the most guaranteed way but if you just have a cutting, there are many options.   I'll outline an approach.
 
   The cutting:    Cuttings taken when the tree is dormant from December through February.   Cuttings need to be stored in a freezer bag in the refrigerator.   They need to be in a bag with a slightly damp material such as long fiber sphagnum moss or a small big of newspaper.    Kept too wet, the cuttings will rot.   
 
     If you have the luxury to get cuttings taken later in the winter time, just before bud break, your successes of rooting will increase.  This is because the plant is starting to make fresh energy and sap and because the cutting has not be languishing in someone else's refrigerator.   Improperly stored cuttings can lead to fungal issues, the number one reason for cutting failure.
 
  Figs can also be easily rooted during the growing season but that is another discussion. 
 
   Okay, if you get cuttings early in the dormancy season, you will need to store them in the refrigerator for at least 4 to 6 weeks to help break the dormancy cycle.  If you get cuttings later in the season, you can proceed toward rooting them.
 
Rooting:    You will find many recommended ways to do this successfully.    The basic principals are as follows:
    Soil - must be well drained.   Some folks use pure perlite, and some use a 50/50 mix of coarse perlite and a high grade potting soil such as Fertilome's Ultimate Potting Mix (UPM).    Others have rooted them in chopped sphagnum moss.   
    Rooting stimulants:  You don't need rooting hormone.
   Container - I use small clear plastic cups with multiple drainage holes in the bottom and sometime a few on the sides.   Clear cups allow you to see the roots.
   Lighting - No direct sunlight, but a good strong diffused light is good or a grow light.
   Temperature - 70 to 78 degrees is good.    
   Humidity - this can be helpful so that the stick does not dry out.    I have rooted my plants in a big plastic bin with a grow light on top.   Some water in the bottom helps maintain some level of humidity, but the open top allows for some air circulation, also critical to thwart fungus.
    Watering - another critical component.   Do not over water, even though tempted.   There is a bit of a delicate balance since if it dries out completely, that will also kill it.
 
   There are many methods!   In the old world, they will take two or three foot cuttings and bury them in the soil an inch or two.   You can also take a pile of cuttings in the fall and cover them with a large pile of leaves.  Uncovered in the spring time you will find lots of roots that have formed, ready for transplanting. 
 
    In regards to putting figs in the ground - once dormant, fig wood can easily take about 20 degrees F and even cooler if the plant is in deep dormancy.   Some figs here in Kansas have taken about 10 degrees and survived, surprisingly.    However, figs in pots are at risk since the roots might freeze at 22 degrees or lower.   In the ground, roots are very protected even though the top will freeze off if temps are really cold.    
 
  One more tip - when growing figs in cold climates, the key to having a reasonable crop is to protect at least a portion of the trunk of the tree during the winter.   If the tree freezes to the ground, then it will spend all of its energy making branches and leaves, sending out figs late in the season that will not ripen property or in time.  
 
  Mulching can be good to keep the base from freezing, but beware of voles.   If you have voles in your area, they will eat up the bark and outer layer of the roots.   I've learned the hard way and now set a column of at least 1/2 inch hardware cloth around the trunk (probably a 6" diameter) and set into the ground several inches to keep the chewing varmints at away.    

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I GUESS THAT ABOUT COVERS IT ALL... I HOPE THIS HELPS YOU TO ROOT YOUR NEW (SAME FIG KIND AS MINE TREE)>>>> WE'LL HAVE TO KEEP EACH OTHER INFORMED ABOUT THE GROWINGS... I AM GOING TOMORROW TO HOME DEPOT AND GETTING THE MIXTURE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT AS THAT'S THE SAME THING THEY SAID ON YOUTUBE.. ALSO I'M GOING TO BE GETTING A LONG CLEAR PLASTIC TUB AND PUT SOME HOLES IN ONE END OF IT SO I CAN DRAIN THE EXCESS WATER OUT.  I'M ALSO GETTING A GROW LIGHT TOMORROW AND PUT MY THERMOMETER PROBE I HAVE INSIDE THE BOX TO MAKE SURE THE TEMPERATURE IS CORRECT.. HAVE TO COVER THE TUB BACK EVERYTIME TO KEEP THE HUMIDITY HIGH BUT NOT BAKE THE CUTTINGS... JUST HAVE TO WATCH THE WHOLE PROCESS DAILY... I'M GOING TO BE GOING TO CALIFORNIA NOV 19TH FOR ONE MONTH SO IF YOU DON'T HEAR FROM ME, THAT'S WHY.. MY WIFE (GOD HELP ME) WILL BE TAKING CARE OF MY CUTTINGS AND SHE'S NEVER DONE IT EITHER.. WITH GOD'S HELP AND MY WIFE'S, MY CUTTINGS SHOULD BE LOOKING PRETTY GOOD WHEN I GET BACK.. I'M SPENDING THANKSGIVING WITH MY SISTER WHO LIVES IN ANAHEIM... (SOUTHERN CA.) I'VE HEARD ALOT, BUT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK ON F4F AND ASK IF ANYONE KNOWS HOW LONG THE ROOTS NEED TO BE BEFORE I CAN PLANT THE NEW CUTTINGS..  I'M GOING TO HAVE ABOUT 6 DIFFERENT CUTTINGS THAT I'VE BOUGHT IN THE LAST 3 DAYS.. WOW.. AND AWAY WE GO!!!  I MUST ADMIT I AM A FIGAHOLIC.. LOVE THOSE THINGS TO EAT RIGHT OFF THE TREE... CAN'T WAIT... I HAD A BLACK MISSION FIG TREE THAT WAS ABOUT 3/4 FT AROUND IN CA. AND ABOUT 6 FT HIGH AND HAD SO MANY FIGS ON IT I COULDN'T KEEP UP WITH THEM... MAN I WISH I WOULD'VE HAD THE HINDSIGHT THEN TO TAKE THAT TREE BEFORE I SOLD MY HOUSE THERE IN CA... I'M A CA. TRANSPLANT HERE IN TEXAS.. WELL, I'VE BENT YOUR EAR LONG ENOUGH.. 
MAY GOD BLESS.
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Now if someone wanted to acquire cuttings from one of the restricted countries couldn't the person contact the seller and work out a deal outiside of ebay and have a better chance at not getting them confiscated? Or is all of their outgoing mail screened? I'm not interested in doing this I'm just curious....

With the government watching all of our emails and phones i'm sure they'd find a way to find out about it one way or another Travis... I going to take  great precautions when getting cuttings from anywhere..
i'm going to do like the guy on youtube and use a bleach/soap solution with a toothbrush and scrub them down from top to bottom and then rinse them off immediately.. that way there could be no disease unless it's inside the cutting itself... 
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Vic, you know that there are countless varieties that are most likely as good or better as this variety, that you can get from right here in the US? But if you already bought those ones, let us Know if you ever get to root them...
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Vic, you know that there are countless varieties that are most likely as good or better as this variety, that you can get from right here in the US? But if you already bought those ones, let us Know if you ever get to root them...


OKAY I WILL .. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION THOUGH.. HOW LONG SHOULD I LET THE ROOTS GET BEFORE I TRANSPLANT THEM INTO A POT OR INTO THE GROUND?  NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE!!
THANKS
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Vic, you know that there are countless varieties that are most likely as good or better as this variety, that you can get from right here in the US? But if you already bought those ones, let us Know if you ever get to root them...


P.S. I AM TRYING TO GET ALL THE SWEETEST FIG VARIETIES I CAN RIGHT NOW..... I AM A FIGOHOLIC!!
AND THE BEST PART ABOUT IT IS I DON'T HAVE TO GO TO ANY OF THOSE MEETINGS!!!
HA!!
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there are valid reasons for having interdictions.  Had we had some of these in the past we might not have had Dutch Elm Disease or some of the other blights. Many of our insect problems came from hitchhikers on imported plants.  E-bay keeps copies of all correspondence between vendors and prospects.  Although E-bay cancelled the order I attempted to place (naively thinking small cuttings met the stick definition and surely the vendors had the proper paperwork to ship to the US), the USDA was still notified of my attempt to order cuttings from Turkey and I received a letter pointing me to the regulations I had broken.


HI AGAIN.. THIS IS WHAT I HAVE PRESENTLY MARIANNA...
3 CELESTE
1 BROWN TURKEY
1 SARI ZEYBEK
4 WHITE MARSEILLES
1 ALMA TEXAS A & M
1 BLACK MISSION 
11 (UNKNOWN) AS OF RIGHT NOW.  THEY WERE CUTTINGS FROM A NEIGHBOR I THINK THOUGH THEY 
     ARE PROBABLY ONE OF THE SWEET ITALIAN FIGS..
1 ISCHIA FIG TREE #1 SIZE..

THE LAST ONE IS FROM A MAN AND HIS WIFE ON EBAY WHO THROUGH THEIR GENEROUS AND LOVING THOUGHTFULNESS, IS GOING TO BE GIVING THIS TO ME FOR FREE.. SEE THERE REALLY ARE STILL ABSOLUTELY LOVING AND THOUGHTFUL PEOPLE LEFT IN THIS WORLD.. I AM 65 YEARS OLD AND A VIETNAM VET WHO IS DISABLED AND APPARENTLY THEY DID APPRECIATE WHAT I DID FOR MY COUNTRY AND WANTED TO BLESS ME WITH THIS PLANT.. GOD BLESS THEM... THEY SURE MADE MY DAY FOR ME... THE ONLY TREE THAT I ACTUALLY HAVE PLANTED RIGHT NOW IS THE BLACK MISSION WHICH IS ABOUT 5 FT HIGH... 
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http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/start-here-the-basics-faq-recommendations-links-6111601


THANK YOU FOR SENDING ME THAT LINK.. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I NEEDED!!! I WILL LOOK IT OVER AND KEEP IT AND USE IT FOR ALL MY FUTURE PROBLEMS ON F4F OR WITH FIGS!!
WOW.. I NEVER KNEW THAT A FORUM COULD BE SUCH FUN AND HAVE SO MANY GREAT PEOPLE ON IT..
I LOVE THIS PLACE!!!
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Man!
What a roller-coaster for the average eye this thread has become...
Best advice I've seen for Vic, is in post #23 (Crtl+ keys).
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Vic,
Think my problems were being used to rooting roses in a much lower humidity area and using the wrong rooting medium. First I got mold in my ziplock and then to salvage my cuttings before they were too far gone, I rinsed them in a mild clorox solution and planted them in a potting mix which retained too much water.  When I first saw the wilting leaves (some did bud out before I killed them), I thought my cuttings needed more water not realizing that figlets will wilt if they get too much water as well as when they are too dry.

I just managed to root 2 of 4 cuttings I started in early September using the perlite/spaghum moss mixture recommended by the forum.  The dice are still out on the other 2 cuttings but they are a slow growing variety and perhaps just need more time. I will know probably in another month whether one or both of them have taken. One looks promising and the other I have some doubts about. Think rooting cuttings is a bit like making a good pie crust.  Once you identify the right feel for the dough (growing media) you can replicate the process easily but knowing what is too much and what is not enough is hard to identify just from a written description. Nothing breeds success better than success itself.

I bit the bullet and bought one too this afternoon. When I went to look up the listing for you, I found it had already shipped. Hoping to have much better luck this time.  If its not an intrusion, I am curious as to what has attracted you to this cultivar in particular. We have Turks in the family which is how I became interested in some of the Turkish fig varieties. 


WELL, THE TRUTH IS THAT I WANTED THIS CERTAIN TYPE BECAUSE OF WHAT I'VE HEARD AND READ ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF FIG.. IT'S HUGH FOR ONE THING AND FOR ANOTHER IT IS LIKE ONE OF THE BEST TASTING FIGS YOU COULD EVER GET.. THAT'S WHY I WANTED IT.. I'VE HEARD THAT NOT ONLY ARE THEY EXTREMELY SWEET AND SUGARY BUT ALMOST TASTES LIKE HONEY WHEN YOU BITE INTO THEM.. NOW THAT'S A FIG!! IF IT HADN'T OF BEEN FOR YOU, I STILL WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN ONE FOR MY COLLECTION... I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT GETTING IT AND ROOTING AND PLANTING IT... I TOO AM A BEGINNER WHEN IT COMES TO ROOTING ANYTHING!! AND I'LL BE LEARNING ALSO.. I HAVE WATCHED ALOT ON YOUTUBE ABOUT ROOTING AND YOUR DEFINATELY RIGHT, IT'S A VERY FINE BALANCE ON THE WATERING ASPECT OF ROOTING THESE FIG CUTTINGS..
THE GUY SAYS JUST A QUICK SPRAY OR TWO AT THE MOST AND ALSO HERE IS SOMETHING ELSE HE HAS SAID: There are many ways to start a cutting.   Air layering is the most guaranteed way but if you just have a cutting, there are many options.   I'll outline an approach.
 
   The cutting:    Cuttings taken when the tree is dormant from December through February.   Cuttings need to be stored in a freezer bag in the refrigerator.   They need to be in a bag with a slightly damp material such as long fiber sphagnum moss or a small big of newspaper.    Kept too wet, the cuttings will rot.   
 
     If you have the luxury to get cuttings taken later in the winter time, just before bud break, your successes of rooting will increase.  This is because the plant is starting to make fresh energy and sap and because the cutting has not be languishing in someone else's refrigerator.   Improperly stored cuttings can lead to fungal issues, the number one reason for cutting failure.
 
  Figs can also be easily rooted during the growing season but that is another discussion. 
 
   Okay, if you get cuttings early in the dormancy season, you will need to store them in the refrigerator for at least 4 to 6 weeks to help break the dormancy cycle.  If you get cuttings later in the season, you can proceed toward rooting them.
 
Rooting:    You will find many recommended ways to do this successfully.    The basic principals are as follows:
    Soil - must be well drained.   Some folks use pure perlite, and some use a 50/50 mix of coarse perlite and a high grade potting soil such as Fertilome's Ultimate Potting Mix (UPM).    Others have rooted them in chopped sphagnum moss.   
    Rooting stimulants:  You don't need rooting hormone.
   Container - I use small clear plastic cups with multiple drainage holes in the bottom and sometime a few on the sides.   Clear cups allow you to see the roots.
   Lighting - No direct sunlight, but a good strong diffused light is good or a grow light.
   Temperature - 70 to 78 degrees is good.    
   Humidity - this can be helpful so that the stick does not dry out.    I have rooted my plants in a big plastic bin with a grow light on top.   Some water in the bottom helps maintain some level of humidity, but the open top allows for some air circulation, also critical to thwart fungus.
    Watering - another critical component.   Do not over water, even though tempted.   There is a bit of a delicate balance since if it dries out completely, that will also kill it.
 
   There are many methods!   In the old world, they will take two or three foot cuttings and bury them in the soil an inch or two.   You can also take a pile of cuttings in the fall and cover them with a large pile of leaves.  Uncovered in the spring time you will find lots of roots that have formed, ready for transplanting. 
 
    In regards to putting figs in the ground - once dormant, fig wood can easily take about 20 degrees F and even cooler if the plant is in deep dormancy.   Some figs here in Kansas have taken about 10 degrees and survived, surprisingly.    However, figs in pots are at risk since the roots might freeze at 22 degrees or lower.   In the ground, roots are very protected even though the top will freeze off if temps are really cold.    
 
  One more tip - when growing figs in cold climates, the key to having a reasonable crop is to protect at least a portion of the trunk of the tree during the winter.   If the tree freezes to the ground, then it will spend all of its energy making branches and leaves, sending out figs late in the season that will not ripen property or in time.  
 
  Mulching can be good to keep the base from freezing, but beware of voles.   If you have voles in your area, they will eat up the bark and outer layer of the roots.   I've learned the hard way and now set a column of at least 1/2 inch hardware cloth around the trunk (probably a 6" diameter) and set into the ground several inches to keep the chewing varmints at away.    

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I GUESS THAT ABOUT COVERS IT ALL... I HOPE THIS HELPS YOU TO ROOT YOUR NEW (SAME FIG KIND AS MINE TREE)>>>> WE'LL HAVE TO KEEP EACH OTHER INFORMED ABOUT THE GROWINGS... I AM GOING TOMORROW TO HOME DEPOT AND GETTING THE MIXTURE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT AS THAT'S THE SAME THING THEY SAID ON YOUTUBE.. ALSO I'M GOING TO BE GETTING A LONG CLEAR PLASTIC TUB AND PUT SOME HOLES IN ONE END OF IT SO I CAN DRAIN THE EXCESS WATER OUT.  I'M ALSO GETTING A GROW LIGHT TOMORROW AND PUT MY THERMOMETER PROBE I HAVE INSIDE THE BOX TO MAKE SURE THE TEMPERATURE IS CORRECT.. HAVE TO COVER THE TUB BACK EVERYTIME TO KEEP THE HUMIDITY HIGH BUT NOT BAKE THE CUTTINGS... JUST HAVE TO WATCH THE WHOLE PROCESS DAILY... I'M GOING TO BE GOING TO CALIFORNIA NOV 19TH FOR ONE MONTH SO IF YOU DON'T HEAR FROM ME, THAT'S WHY.. MY WIFE (GOD HELP ME) WILL BE TAKING CARE OF MY CUTTINGS AND SHE'S NEVER DONE IT EITHER.. WITH GOD'S HELP AND MY WIFE'S, MY CUTTINGS SHOULD BE LOOKING PRETTY GOOD WHEN I GET BACK.. I'M SPENDING THANKSGIVING WITH MY SISTER WHO LIVES IN ANAHEIM... (SOUTHERN CA.) I'VE HEARD ALOT, BUT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK ON F4F AND ASK IF ANYONE KNOWS HOW LONG THE ROOTS NEED TO BE BEFORE I CAN PLANT THE NEW CUTTINGS..  I'M GOING TO HAVE ABOUT 6 DIFFERENT CUTTINGS THAT I'VE BOUGHT IN THE LAST 3 DAYS.. WOW.. AND AWAY WE GO!!!  I MUST ADMIT I AM A FIGAHOLIC.. LOVE THOSE THINGS TO EAT RIGHT OFF THE TREE... CAN'T WAIT... I HAD A BLACK MISSION FIG TREE THAT WAS ABOUT 3/4 FT AROUND IN CA. AND ABOUT 6 FT HIGH AND HAD SO MANY FIGS ON IT I COULDN'T KEEP UP WITH THEM... MAN I WISH I WOULD'VE HAD THE HINDSIGHT THEN TO TAKE THAT TREE BEFORE I SOLD MY HOUSE THERE IN CA... I'M A CA. TRANSPLANT HERE IN TEXAS.. WELL, I'VE BENT YOUR EAR LONG ENOUGH.. 
MAY GOD BLESS.
VIC.






REMEMBER MARIANNA, ALL THAT WAS SAID BY BYRON WHO HAS HELPED ME SO MUCH WITH INFORMATION.... JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT....
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Enough of this crap!
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For the record; just above this very post was another big new post (and deleted)
by Vic himself basically stating that it is best for him to use Crtl+ keys as advised in post #23.

Who are we kidding here?!?

.........

All the USA street name signs have been mandated (by BIG gov) to be changed
from all CAPS to a more readable/understandable upper/lower case modified format
(specially for any visually impaired older people; like myself - I'm getting old and do use glasses).

That is not any easy/cheap task to do.
I have seen some such new street signs done,
but I have also read of some states requesting
a time deadline extension b/c of all the (tax) $$s involved.
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Edit:
For the record; just above this very post was another big new post (and deleted)
by Vic himself basically stating that it is best for him to use Crtl+ keys as advised in post #23.

Who are we kidding here?!?

.........

All the USA street name signs have been mandated (by BIG gov) to be changed
from all CAPS to a more readable/understandable upper/lower case modified format
(specially for any visually impaired older people; like myself - I'm getting old and do use glasses).

That is not any easy/cheap task to do.
I have seen some such new street signs done,
but I have also read of some states requesting
a time deadline extension b/c of all the (tax) $$s involved.
actually what i said was i'll just use the lower case on everything from now on.. the ctrl and + thingy doesn't work for me for some reason.. maybe i'm doing it wrong or something..
it was never my intention to make anyone mad or upset by me using the higher case lettering.. it was only an easier way for me to see things better.  
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thank you gorgi.. i see you've been on here a long time like 6 years... bet you have lots of knowledge... 
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gorgi, on a 6 ft fig tree  is it advisable to trim off all the lower branches to promote more fruit??? 
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Vic maybe this will help .
When you are on forum try this method .


Hole the Ctrl button down with finger  - do not release
Then tap the + button 1 time and wait a few seconds  - this will enlarge everything then release Ctrl - page will stay enlarged.

To make everything even larger do the above  but remember hold the Ctrl button down do not release and tap + once again.

Thanks for your service Vic.
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Vic maybe this will help .
When you are on forum try this method .


Hole the Ctrl button down with finger  - do not release
Then tap the + button 1 time and wait a few seconds  - this will enlarge everything then release Ctrl - page will stay enlarged.

To make everything even larger do the above  but remember hold the Ctrl button down do not release and tap + once again.

Thanks for your service Vic.



wow.. that worked.. thank you!!! i guess i wasn't holding something down the first times...
this is great!!! i can see i can see!!!
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Vic maybe this will help .
When you are on forum try this method .


Hole the Ctrl button down with finger  - do not release
Then tap the + button 1 time and wait a few seconds  - this will enlarge everything then release Ctrl - page will stay enlarged.

To make everything even larger do the above  but remember hold the Ctrl button down do not release and tap + once again.

Thanks for your service Vic.



wow.. that worked.. thank you!!! i guess i wasn't holding something down the first times...
this is great!!! i can see i can see!!!
vic.



p.s. i was one of the lucky ones who got to come back from over there.. your welcome!!! it's still hard to believe that our government let so many boys and girls die over there when they knew where ho ching ming was all the time in hanoi and we could have won that war in 1 week with one bomb! i'm lucky also i don't have to sign up for obamacare  i have the v.a. here in ft worth i go to.. whew!!!
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Very obviously, this guy is a newbie bogus figster ... just ignore him!

If he wants to prove himself; just let him post some other new useful  fig threads
(then we may all reward him?).
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