zeitgeist
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Are Ronde de Bordeaux and Rouge de Bordeaux one and the same? If not, are they similar? I noticed UCD has Rouge de Bordeaux but not Ronde. I was wondering if they are synonymous. Thanks!
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No. Not the same. Rouge de Bordeaux is synonymous with Pastilliere, however.
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There are a few dark french figs that get discussed quite a bit here:Pastiliere aka Rouge de Bordeaux Ronde de Bordeaux Negronne aka Violette de Bordeaux (and a smaller but very productive version, Petite Negri) Violette de Solliès aka Bourjassotte Noire Ronde de Bordeaux ("RdB") -- we avoid using RdB for the Rouge de Bordeaux -- is well-regarded here in the States and has distinctive slender, finger-like lobes on the leaves--especially on young plants. It bears early in the season which makes it special for growers with short summers. Keep in mind synonyms are often used for various varieties, so these AKAs aren't necessarily true all the time.
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Posted 1429151722
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Hi Paul, here are a couple of pics of my Rouge de Bordeaux (Pastiliere) from last season. First fig from a young plant, but excellent, as is Ronde de Bordeaux.
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Does pastiliere need the,wasp. I have itbut qas told it needs the wasp
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No Richie, it doesn't need the wasp.
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I believe it has very low fig retention rates without the wasp.
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I want to say thank you for all the thorough and well-written responses. That was great information and cleared up a lot for me. This forum rocks!
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