greek dark fig (skoura vavatsika) UPDATED

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andreas

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Posted 1407397777 · Edited	Reply with quote #1

this is a great dark fig i was waiting to get them ripe enough to show you but the birds would always win. so i cut them 2-3 days early. EDIT I HAD TO REMOVE THE OLD PICTURES BECAUSE THE FIGS WARE NOT RIPE. HERE ARE SOME BETTER ONES... __________________ andreas-patras Patra Peloponnisos Greece zone..9a

kausikck76

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Posted 1407407236	Reply with quote #2

Looks absolutely beautiful andreas. Good one mate. __________________ Wish list: CDDN, CDDB AND MARTINENCA RIMADA.

kirkinis

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Posted 1407407810	Reply with quote #3

beautiful Figs andreas , Thanks for images !!! -VK __________________ location Crete Greece zone.. 10 Current: Black Mission, LSU Purple, Vassilika, Napolitana ,Mayam, Gentile Bianco, Ficazzana Black, Malta Black, Fracazano Bianco, Nero Del Portogallo, Precose De Dalmatie, Panache, Violette Dauphine, Conadria

andreas

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Posted 1407408986	Reply with quote #4

@ kausikck76 thank you mate. @ -vk efharisto patrida... kamia kali touristria katevike sto iraklio? ;-)) __________________ andreas-patras Patra Peloponnisos Greece zone..9a

lampo

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Posted 1407412263	Reply with quote #5

Andreas, This is a very nice dark fig ! Is this a variety that could be utilized for drying ? ...if not please tell me what are the best -mavra's- to dry .. I understand that on the white side, the Kalamatiana is the best for that purpose.(?) In Portugal the best dry 'mavra' is the Inchario Preto a delicious fuit Cotio and Pingo de Mel are the best white dried figs....best when pollinated. Francisco

waynea

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Posted 1407415069	Reply with quote #6

Andreas, one of the best looking black Greek figs that I have seen, even when picked early. I need to find some in the States.

andreas

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Posted 1407418628	Reply with quote #7

@ Francisco i dont eat that many dry figs so i dont know the ones that would be the best. you are right about the kalamatiana (because you have them) LOL but just as good if not better are the figs from taxiarhis from the island of evia. @ waynea ok here is a tip. go to down town tarpon springs on sunday. stand in front of st nicolas church and wait for the greeks to get out... follow one home ;-)) __________________ andreas-patras Patra Peloponnisos Greece zone..9a

waynea

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Posted 1407419378	Reply with quote #8

Andreas, too funny, I am sure I would get arrested for stalking.

m5allen

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Posted 1407427350	Reply with quote #9

Beautiful figs and pictures. Funny, I was actually thinking about going up to Tarpon this winter and bringing some cuttings and/or 1 gal plants and trying to find some Greeks who want to trade. __________________ -Mike Tampa, FL Zone 9b. Growing: Black Madeira, CDDG, Malta Black, VDB, Petite Negra, LSU Purple, Celeste, Battaglia, Alma and Grasa's Unknown Seattle Purple

waynea

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Posted 1407462310	Reply with quote #10

Hey Mike, sounds like a plan.

Otmani007

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Posted 1407462757	Reply with quote #11

Quote: Originally Posted by andreas @ waynea ok here is a tip. go to down town tarpon springs on sunday. stand in front of st nicolas church and wait for the greeks to get out... follow one home ;-)) LOL. __________________ Dallas, TX - Zone 8a Wish List: Col de Dame Blanche, Brogiotto Bianco, Sicilian White, Panache Otmani

cis4elk

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Posted 1407530223	Reply with quote #12

Andreas, Can you please post a picture of some standard leaves of the varieties of Greek figs when show the figs? We have a good number of Unknown Greek figs in the US, maybe you could help us find some known names for these figs. __________________ Calvin Littleton,CO z5/6 Wants List: For everyone to clean-up after themselves and co-exist peacefully. Let's think more about the future of our planet and less about ourselves. :)

andreas

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Posted 1408377391	Reply with quote #13

@ cis4elk i have a picture of the leaves for you. I HAD TO REMOVE THE OLD PICTURES BECAUSE THE FIGS WARE NOT RIPE AND I UPLOADED SOME BETTER ONES... __________________ andreas-patras Patra Peloponnisos Greece zone..9a

cis4elk

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Posted 1408380025	Reply with quote #14

Thanks Andreas. I have an Unkown Dark Greek fig. After I get some ripe figs, I would like to post some pictures of the figs and leaves and see if it looks familiar to you at all. __________________ Calvin Littleton,CO z5/6 Wants List: For everyone to clean-up after themselves and co-exist peacefully. Let's think more about the future of our planet and less about ourselves. :)

pako

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Posted 1408394290	Reply with quote #15

Very nice! __________________ Bulgaria (EU),zone 7b

waynea

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Posted 1408397986	Reply with quote #16

Adreas, they look soooooo good. Nice and rich.

lampo

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Posted 1408400991	Reply with quote #17

Andreas, This is a very nice fig ! Francisco

DesertDance

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Posted 1408406437	Reply with quote #18

Andreas, I do love the Greeks and their history. When I visited Greece, about 5 times, I didn't know you, but the Mythology has my attention. And the olive branch. I grow and brine olives. Do you? The fig you presented to us in this forum looks divine! Congratulations on your success! Suzi __________________ Zone 9b, Southern California. "First year they sleep, Second year they creep, Third year they leap!" Wish List: I wish all of you happy fig collecting! My wishes have been fulfilled!

andreas

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Posted 1408472859	Reply with quote #19

Thanks everybody. @ Calvin i hope i can help. @ wayne i have some family from florida visiting... OMG!!! they are like a "locust swarm" LOL. they are going through 30-40 figs/day i never got a chance to taste fruit from my new vasilika sika tree.(there are 2 left i hope i can share them with you guys) @ Suzi no i dont brine olives, i bought some land and took out the olive trees so i can put my figs. @ Enigma i have no idea what the word means but it does not have the word (συκα ) in it... it is va-va-tsi-ka __________________ andreas-patras Patra Peloponnisos Greece zone..9a

loquat1

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Posted 1408494195	Reply with quote #20

So is your skoura vavatsika the same variety as my mavra sika? __________________ Costas

andreas

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Posted 1408994355	Reply with quote #21

@ costas γεια σου φιλε Κωστα your mavra sika could or could not be the same as my skoura vavatsika. you know that mavra sika is just the word for black fig in greek... so mavra sika is just a black unknown, until you find the true name for it. __________________ andreas-patras Patra Peloponnisos Greece zone..9a

loquat1

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Posted 1409005997	Reply with quote #22

@ Andreas - Καλησπέρα Κύριε Ανδρεας. Ελπίζω να είστε καλά. Yep, I had a feeling that might be the case. My tree was grown from a cutting obtained in Greece, and the only information I was given was that the fig ripens black - that's it. If/when it yields ripe fruit here in England, I'll post some pics of fruit & leaves. Hopefully someone on the forum will be able to identify the variety for us. Σας ευχαριστώ πολύ για την απάντησή σας, και χαιρετισμούς από την Αγγλία. Κώστας __________________ Costas

deerhunter16b

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Posted 1409006447	Reply with quote #23

Those look beautiful __________________ john Zone 7a

tylerj

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Posted 1440012903 · Edited	Reply with quote #24

Edit.....post deleted __________________ London, Ontario zone 6a Wish List: Martinenca Rimada, Genovese Nero AF, Galicia Negra, Brooklyn White

andreas

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Posted 1440014647	Reply with quote #25

tyler its a common fig. but the first season rooted plants droped most of them with me as well. it did re fruit on new seasons growth and most are on the tree. what ever droped, droped from lack of water, and not being uppoted... its in a small pot, no larger than a beer mug. this plant has never left my balcony and there is no way ever for the fig wasps to get to it. closest wild fig tree is about 1500 meters. no wasp could fly that far. __________________ andreas-patras Patra Peloponnisos Greece zone..9a

greenfig

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Posted 1440015382	Reply with quote #26

Andreas, You could try the seeds on your ripe fig and see if they float. Maybe some odd wasps were carried by a wind or so? I would be curious to see if it needs pollination as well. __________________ wish list: Violeta, Calderona. USDA z 10a, SoCal

andreas

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Posted 1440015722	Reply with quote #27

Igor i will check to see if they float but i am sure its a common fig (nurseries dont sell smyrna because they cant expect buyers to find the wasp, unless you go to a specialty nursery and ask for smyrna) as soon as its ripe i will do a seed test. its just starting to get darker. it needs a few more days. __________________ andreas-patras Patra Peloponnisos Greece zone..9a

tylerj

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Posted 1440015767	Reply with quote #28

Thanks for the update Andreas. I did uppot them from 1 gallon to 5 gallon this spring from starting them last fall and have been pretty diligent with watering. Hopefully next year I will see some ripen. __________________ London, Ontario zone 6a Wish List: Martinenca Rimada, Genovese Nero AF, Galicia Negra, Brooklyn White

greenfig

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Posted 1440015977	Reply with quote #29

Thanks for an update, Andreas! Tyler, good luck with yours! How do those dropped figs look inside? __________________ wish list: Violeta, Calderona. USDA z 10a, SoCal

RobSter010

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Posted 1440024280 · Edited	Reply with quote #30

It's totally normal for a first year tree to drop its few figs, especially when uppotted and fertilized heavy. They will concentrate on growth and due to that drop the little fruit they have. This happens especially when high N fertilizers are used. Pierre Baud said the number one reason for fruit drop is high N low K fertilizers. Instead of using 3-1-2 (recommendended on many forums) Baud swears by a 1-2-3 ratio. I even use a 1-2-6 ratio and have no fruit drop whatsoever. Even my Pastilliere that is known to drop its figs in the first 4 years dropped only 1 of its 16 figs. (second year tree) What i'm trying to say is there are many reasons for fruit drop and you have to exclude all the other options first before calling a fig a smyrna. __________________ Rotterdam / Holland - Zone 8

Jerry_M

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Posted 1440045254	Reply with quote #31

Nice dark fig. __________________ Jerry Canyon Lake, TX 8b Wanted: Cajun Gold, Louisiana Honey, Schar Israel-114 grams

figgary

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Posted 1442781630	Reply with quote #32

I had the 1st of my figs from my young Skoura Vavatsika a few days ago, and they were very tasty. Juicy and sweet, not complex, but very flavorful and quite beautiful. I am fairly certain that I do not have the wasps here as of yet, for those wondering. Here are a few photos, though not as nice as Andreas'. __________________ Gary in CA 9A Seeking: Bebera Branca*, Colonel Littman's Cross

andreas

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Posted 1442783204	Reply with quote #33

i love the pictures of your fruit. great job Gary. i hope you enjoy it for many years to come. it will get larger as a fruit and the flavor should develope alot more. again great job on that fig!!! __________________ andreas-patras Patra Peloponnisos Greece zone..9a

HarveyC

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Posted 1442804476	Reply with quote #34

For whatever reason(s), my lone fruit did not get very dark (same source as Gary's). Even so, taste was very good. __________________ Harvey - Correia Farms Isleton, CA (Sacramento County) USDA zone 9b, Sunset zone 14 http://www.figaholics.com https://www.facebook.com/Figaholics

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