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I guess we are still waiting on a definitive identity on this fig, but whatever it is, the breba is not only large (84 grams), but great tasting as well. Very sweet and chewy. Ripened and enjoyed today. IMG_3679.JPG  IMG_3680.JPG  IMG_3682.JPG  IMG_3669.JPG 

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That is a delicious looking fig.  I hope it was as sweet as it looks (does it meet any flavor profile that might narrow down the choices?).  Great interior and exterior color.  I do hope you can ID this variety.
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Wow that it nice. Looks like there is some good substance to this fig. Doesnt look watery at all. Are these rob genovese nero available?
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And can you post additional leaf pics?
Thanks for the update on the figs
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Yes, please post a variety of photos of the different leaves on this tree.
There is some controversy over this fig and there are different Genovese Nero's floating about.
It would be to your advantage to find out if you have the real thing. Are you able to trace the source of your GN?
On the other hand, if your fig proves to be an excellent variety, and NOT the real Genovese, consider yourself a winner for such a beauty and keep it.
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Gary got it from me and I got it from Robert.  Robert got Genovese Nero from Rafed who got it from Adriano.  There has been some question about whether Robert got things mixed up and sold something else.  I have no opinion on that matter.  Gary is also growing Genovese Nero from another source to compare as am I.  Another collector also got Robert's Genovese Nero from me and, as I understand it, this year the leaves seem to be the same as his other Genovese Nero.  It's a mystery at this point, but at least it's been producing good quality figs so we're a winner either way.
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I have a little Genovese Nero .......
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Sorry for the delay in responding to questions everyone. I've been off camping with the grand kids and my daughter and son-in-law.
Golfmom, it was very jammy, with a flavor of fig, berry, and plum, all mixed together.
Richie, Harvey was my source.
Ed, leaf and a pic of another ripening breba with main crop.
Leon, I have an Adriano GN, but it is young. It does have figs though, so I should be able to compare in a few weeks. Rob's GN has predominantly 3 and 5 lobed leaves, with very few single lobed leaves. Looking at my Adriano GN, I am leaning to them being different. IMG_3796.JPG  IMG_3788.JPG 

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Leon, do you grow your GN in the ground ? Last season I have my 2 trees in 5 gal pots and 
I find it hard to give it a high rating. I mean its good for me for the time being especially its
reliability and holding up to rain pretty good. I have move my plants to larger pots this season
and given the unusual warmer trend, I hope I can experience better taste.
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Had another today. Drier and less sweet than the first, but still a very good flavor. IMG_3803.JPG  IMG_3805.JPG 

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this is an excellent tasting fig!! my wife and I had brebas and were unbelievable. too bad its in the shadow of the real version, but whatever it's origin, it is outstanding. i am keeping both my plants received from harvey. very productive main crop as well
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I have a feeling that not only are there multiple Genovese Nero's floating around, but there are also multiple versions of Rob's Genovese Nero NOT at this point too.  I'm not sure who I got mine from last year at Bass' fig fest, but mine looks very different than this.  Last year the main crop didn't ripen properly and may need caprification.  If that's the case, I plan to either destroy mine to limit the continuation of the misnaming or label it "Unknown" and ship it to someone in California that wants a fig to play with.
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Help me:(
I am scratching my head trying to understand the logic of using this fig name (and a few other unknown fig names as well).

These are the agreed to facts that I have seen posted;

- the fig is not Adriano's Genovese Nero someone made a mistake at some point or maybe it is a sport offspring.
- regardless it is a great looking fig and much sought.
- the fig has been in circulation for some time now and it is not some other known variety or it would have been recognized.

Why would this fig not have its own name? 

Would the onus fall to Rob who discovered this fig to give it a proper name?
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I agree with you, pino. I usually just refer to it as Rob's Fig now.
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That sounds good to me Gary!
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Giving it another name now just adds to the confusion and makes it harder to search through the history. Imho.
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i agree that keeping it Rob's GN , at this point, would mitigate additional confusion.

Rob had a mix-up, and Harvey realized later what he thought was the real GN was not, so the name Rob's GN was born.

I would recommend changing its name only if Rob is able to trace its true origin.

my brebas are identical to Gary's pictures above. they are so identical, i decided to not post pictures. so we definitely have the Rob's GN
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Giving it another name now just adds to the confusion and makes it harder to search through the history. Imho.


I don't understand, confuse it with another Rob's fig? I just did a search for "Rob's fig" on this site, and it returned every post for Rob's GN, Genovese Nero, Adriano's GN, Rob's GN not, etc. I don't really care what its name is, just agree with pino that calling it anything Genovese Nero is confusing. It is a very good and unique fig, I think it should have its own name.
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My mouth waters each time I show up on the forum :-/  My trees are young and although some have small figs, they are nowhere near ready...waiting...waiting...waiting.  Beautiful, delicious figs all.
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I have heard others say it looks exactly like a Texas Blue Giant. So I think that needs to be cleared up too. Is it Texas Blue Giant or not?
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It looks very similar to Texas Blue Giant to me. Same leaf pattern, same shape fig, same color exterior, same color interior, same hole in the center and same large size fig.

I have a dozen Texas Blue Giant fig trees, but don't have Rob's GN, so I would have to get one and grow it side by side. Maybe someone else already has both and can give their opinion.
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I don't understand, confuse it with another Rob's fig? I just did a search for "Rob's fig" on this site, and it returned every post for Rob's GN, Genovese Nero, Adriano's GN, Rob's GN not, etc. I don't really care what its name is, just agree with pino that calling it anything Genovese Nero is confusing. It is a very good and unique fig, I think it should have its own name.


You call it Rob's fig, someone else calls it Rob's Genovese Nero, others call it Texas Blue Giant, someone else calls it Fantasia or some other made up name.  All of the aliases just cause confusion in my book.

I can see conversations going like this.  I see it all of the time with other aliases.

Poster 1:  Check out my Rob's fig!
Poster 2:  Looks great!  Is that the same as Rob's Genovese Nero?
Poster 1:  Yeah, they are the same.  It's an alias.
Poster 3:  No, I don't think it's the same.  Mine looks different.
Poster 4:  Looks like Blue Giant to me.
Poster 2:  Is Blue Giant an alias too?
Poster 1:  No, it's different.
Poster 3:  Yes, it's the same.
Poster 2:  I guess I'll have to get them all and grow them side by side to compare.

Here's just a small sampling of possible fig synonyms that may or may not be accurate pulled from other threads.  There are probably many more and I'd hate to add more to the list:

Alma - Italian wht, Fall’s Gold
Genoa White - White Naples
Ischia Green - Figue D’Espagne Couer
Mary Lane - Jelly, Mary Lane seedless
Tiger - Giant Celeste
Vista - Blk Mission, VdB, Negronne
Zingerella - Gypsy
Negronne - 'Rouge de Bordeaux, Pastilere’
Adriatic JH - Verdone
Chiapetta - Cosenza
Fantasia - LSU Scott's Black
Lemon - White Marseilles, Marseilles, Italian Honey, Blanche, Lattarula, Heritage, Dokkar, LSU Everbearing, White Texas Everbearing?
Afgan A - Caucasus 3
Archipel, Malcoms Super Giant, Drap Dor, and Encanto Brown Turkey
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Brown Turkey, CA Brown Turkey, Walker, Braun Turkey, Black Jack and Blue Giant Aubique Noire, Negro
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Largo, Brown Naples, Common Blue, English Brown Turkey
Brunswick, Rattlesnake, Capitola Long, Doree and Red Italian, Magnolia?
Celeste (aka Malta, Celestial, Conant, Sugar Fig, and Tennessee Mountain Fig)
Col de Dame – Maho -
Cosenza- Chiapetta
Deanna, Orphan, UCR 278-128 and Algerian Watts
Delmatie _ Stellaemon, Dokkar, LSU Everbearing, White Texas Everbearing, Kadota and Trojano
Dalmatia - Magnolia,Madonna
Genoa, White Genoa, Harvey Adriatic and Genoa'Genoa'
Green Ischia- Verte, (is not Strwbery verte) Coeur - Verdale -
Improved Celeste- O'Rourke supported in the notes, LSU Ag Center,....All O'Rourkes are Improved Celestes...All Improved Celestes aren't O'Rourke.
Italian 258 - Italian 320
Jurupa, Excel? Gulbun?
Kadota,White Endich, Florentine, Honey, Dattato
Latarulla (not Laterolla) Latarulla is same as Italian Honey Black Mountain fig
Magnolia- Madonna, Dalmatia
Marabout - UCR 291-4
Nero- Blk Greek
Noire de Caromb, Cuello Dama Negro and Charles Allen, Douqueira Negra
Panachee - Italian 256, (per Celt) pinache is Bordisotte Blanca Rimada “ It's a stripped version of either col de dame or bourjasotte”.
Paradiso, Monstrueuse and Ischia Green, Genova, Genovese
Pastiliere - Rouge de Bordeaux
Purple Genca' ('Black Genoa'; 'Black Spanish'
Roeding - Capri A
Ronde de Bordeaux, Figue de Bordeaux, Précoce de Barcelone
Sal's, Dark No. 1 Portuguese and Abruzzi
San Joao - Roscoff
San Petro -Yougo 7
Santa Cruz Dark - Giant Amber
St Jeromes , Black Triana
Vista, Mission. VdB, Beers Black - Violette de Bordeaux ,
Verte –Calverte some say maybe Ischia Green , But Verte becomes more yellow and not a tight eye
Violette de Sollies-Black of Bourjasotte, Burjassot Negre, Solliès, , Bourdissot, Negro Largo,
Brogiotto Nero, Parisienne, , Negro Largo (Espagne)
White San Pedro - Italian 372
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No way it's a Texas BG

My goodness rob's was good. Reddish internal with a layer of sweet purple nectar between the skin and flesh. Below is a Texas BG. not even close

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Longue de A'out other names Slocan, I395, Melanzana Merdoscola
Paradiso Gene, Paradiso Bronze, Paradiso Dusan, Paradiso Morle(Some says it is Brunswick)

Now I have Melanzana AF and I have been told it is not the real Melanzana. Hence I add a "NOT" to it so that
it is reference to source. Happens my Melanzana AF "Not" is an excellent fig - hardy, productive, reliable, excellent
taste and ripens main crop.

There are 2 Enrico's too.

Interesting fig hobby ..... confusing at times. Needs to keep KOOL. 
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this is an excellent tasting fig!! my wife and I had brebas and were unbelievable. too bad its in the shadow of the real version, but whatever it's origin, it is outstanding. i am keeping both my plants received from harvey. very productive main crop as well



my post above was for the breba crop and I stand by it. Maybe the best tasting fig I've had from all my varieties.
But the main crop was extremely disappointing... bland, watery, barely sweet, and not worth eating. A lot fell off the tree or succumbed to the figeater/june bettle. It was a second year plant and is a very aggressive and productive grower.

three options:

A, keep the plant only for the breba, which were amazing.

B. Try it in its 3rd year next summer, for maybe improvement in the main crop taste?

C. plant in ground to improve main crop taste

Any suggestions or similar experiences with Rob's GN main crop? Mine is in a pot and not in ground.
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I was very pleased with my Rob's Genovese Nero this year.  It is extremely different from my Genovese Nero AF, which in my opinion is likely I-258, or extremely close to it.  The RGN has a very unique color to it, a reddish tint, and produces very large figs.  The only fig that I have which is a truer red is my Pane Vino Dark.

Here is my video from this year on RGN:
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thanks sincerely for the comment Nick, i enjoy your youtube channel.
In your video, you agree with me that the figs are watery, no flavor, and bland, so by your comment above it appears you are pleased with it  based purely on size??

Maybe anyone with in-ground has different experiences that want to chime in....
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thanks sincerely for the comment Nick, i enjoy your youtube channel.
In your video, you agree with me that the figs are watery, no flavor, and bland, so by your comment above it appears you are pleased with it  based purely on size??

Maybe anyone with in-ground has different experiences that want to chime in....


Size and color. If it was all about taste I would only have Black Madeiras :)
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