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My first year Bursa Siyahi from RR had around six to eight figs on it which didn’t ripen. I pulled off all but one, and am finally getting some color on it. Even the ones I pulled off and left at the base of the tree for the critters are turning dark. Harvey posted pictures of his BS figs which were ripe but green when he harvested them in September. My fig still feels firm, even though there is a drop of sap from the end. Do these figs ever soften up? 

Bursa Siyahi January.jpg 



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Nice. I know nothing about them but ripening now has to effect the color, taste & texture. When does it supposed to ripen? Is it in ground. Been seeing these on ebay but its seeds for sale. I would love to,see the inside before a bird or squirrels eat it first lol. Keep us updated. Richie from louisiana
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I have the same tree but no figs yet. This particular variety might need the fig wasp, If you are in CA then you might be OK.
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Genuine Bursa Siyahi
(Black Bursa) figs are Smyrna types.
To mature it is mandatory that they are given access to June/July wasps from Profichi caprifigs.
Assuming they are receptive and  got pollinated by that time, full ripeness would come up around September.
I believe this could well happen in your climate zone.
Now I am curious on why such a delay ripening  your fig
I would like to suggest -if I may- that you test a sample of  seeds from this fig to find out if it was pollinated ..

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Here is a picture of the inside of two figs that I pulled off last week and have been on the ground. I didn’t want to drain the tree since it's finally dormant. I tasted one fig. It was like a sour strawberry, -not ripe.
Out of ten seeds, eight sunk and two floated, so I guess the figs were 80% pollinated. We have a healthy fig wasp population here, (and fruit flies, wasps, bees, ants, grasshoppers, butterflies and scale).
The tree arrived bare root around last February, is a first year tree, so is probably still getting used to the climate here. It's in a five gallon pot.
As I mention above, Harvey’s same variety tree from the same nursery had ripe fruit last September but they were green, not black. Could it be another nursery mix up? 

Bursa January 2.jpg 



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Good.
Your seed test info plus colors on the additional fruit picture, seem to confirm that this is the real stuff.
Congratulations.
What may have happened for such long time to ripen could well be  the 'forcing' on such a young tree
to mature several fruit in the season. This is a known behavior on many fig types.

This link takes you to a page where the BB  colors are shown and some useful descriptions provided
http://www.figer.com.tr/products.html

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Good.
Your seed test info plus colors on the additional fruit picture, seem to confirm that this is the real stuff.
Congratulations.
What may have happened for such long time to ripen could well be  the 'forcing' on such a young tree
to mature several fruit in the season. This is a known behavior on many fig types.

This link takes you to a page where the BB  colors are shown and some useful descriptions provided
http://www.figer.com.tr/products.html

Francisco
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Thanks for the link. You're right. It's probably the correct fig.  

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Congrats! The figs look great, I hope next July or so you could show us a few nicely ripened Bursa figs.

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Congrats! The figs look great, I hope next July or so you could show us a few nicely ripened Bursa figs.
Me too! It was disappointing to have all these figs finally, and none of them ripening. 

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I am wondering if the skin color can differ from a pollenated fig & non pollenated of the same variety?
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I am wondering if the skin color can differ from a pollenated fig & non pollenated of the same variety?

Harvey's green "Bursa" was as pollinated as my half black "Bursa". Perhaps there was a mix up at the nursery.
What is the difference between my tree that refused to drop its figs over the winter and a capri fig? All those figs would have still been on my "Bursa" if I hadn't picked them off. I was looking at a picture of a purple capri fig on eBay, and it looked a lot like my "Bursa". Would the wasps know the difference? Is there a difference?

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The Bursa fig is also called the Bursa Black. It is not a Capri fig. The Bursa is #1 fig shipped from Turkey to Europe. Your tree is still very small. The unripe figs tend to stay or drop. It is of no consequence. They key is to have the wasp which you do. I would plant a Capri fig in my yard.
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"Would the wasps know the difference?" See this:


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Hi all.I live in Bursa city that is Bursa siyahi (Bursa black) is originally grown in this area.But why its color is different than ours .lets compare this with mine.Also if possible to see its leaves then I can surely define it is original Bursa black or not

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The tree went dormant a few weeks ago and dropped its leaves but is showing some green tips now on the ends of the branches. We should have some leaves soon with the warm sunny weather we've been having.

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Hi all.I live in Bursa city that is Bursa siyahi (Bursa black) is originally grown in this area.But why its color is different than ours .lets compare this with mine.Also if possible to see its leaves then I can surely define it is original Bursa black or not

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Here is my potted Bursa siyahi fig and its leaf patterns that you can compare with yours when it sprout leaves .

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I believe the fellow on this picture from the Thelegraph, is picking those nice Bursa Siyahi figs from a well grown up and healthy tree. Leaf shapes can also be seen.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/recipes/8706331/Passion-fruit-Bursa-fig-recipes.html

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