grafting tool review

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figpig_66

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Posted 1426200433	Reply with quote #1

There was a topic on this tool last week which showed this tool that was purchased from a fellow member. Looked good to me so i bought the same one. The tool its self is well made for the money. 20 dollers was the cost so i figured it would be kind of cheap. Surprisingly nicly made eady to use. Very sharp blades. No bruising or damage to cutting. Here a few pics. Look close to the pic of cutting put back together after being cut. Nice fit. Will post pics of a real graft after rain stops. Richie Attached Images 2015-03-12_17.36.39.jpg (294.75 KB, 165 views) 2015-03-12_17.38.41.jpg (273.79 KB, 153 views) 2015-03-12_17.38.10.jpg (330.26 KB, 142 views) 2015-03-12_17.37.03.jpg (300.04 KB, 133 views) 2015-03-12_17.37.28.jpg (241.77 KB, 129 views) 2015-03-12_17.36.14.jpg (264.53 KB, 119 views) __________________ RICHIE BONI HICKORY LOUISIANA ZONE 8B WARM HUMID WINRERS ARE VERY MILD LOW 20'S BUT WARMS RIGHT UP DURING THE DAY. SUMMER IS EXTREMELY HOT & HUMID 100 degrees 100% humidity fig tree grow like crazy but some split from rain & humidity Wish list. Col de dame blanc Col de rimada Lsu numbered figs

deerhunter16b

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Posted 1426201719	Reply with quote #2

That does look pretty clean . Nice fit...... Tks for posting it... __________________ john Zone 7a

Luzzu

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Posted 1426205699	Reply with quote #3

My wife bought me one for Christmas I,m anxious for the weather to warm up so I can try it __________________ Brampton, ON Zone 5b

philos

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Posted 1426207558	Reply with quote #4

That is very nice and clean indeed. Got me interested in purchasing that one as well... will have to think about this now, more projects for the summer... thanks for sharing. __________________ Jerry - Zone 6B Westchester, New York. 2015 Wish List: Florea, White Greek, Italian 258, Galicia Negra and any M. Pons varieties.

figpig_66

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Posted 1426212370	Reply with quote #5

Thanks for feedback guys. __________________ RICHIE BONI HICKORY LOUISIANA ZONE 8B WARM HUMID WINRERS ARE VERY MILD LOW 20'S BUT WARMS RIGHT UP DURING THE DAY. SUMMER IS EXTREMELY HOT & HUMID 100 degrees 100% humidity fig tree grow like crazy but some split from rain & humidity Wish list. Col de dame blanc Col de rimada Lsu numbered figs

palazzophoto

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Posted 1426222166	Reply with quote #6

I made the original post. I have been doing practice cuts with mine, use a small crescent wrench or calipers to match size and you will not find a tighter fit anywhere. __________________ Justin Palazzo Wish List: Red Sicilian,Red Israel,Sbayi, Martinenca Rimada(any of the Rimada family) Dauphine/Grantham's Royal,Figo Preto, Olympian Quality Unknown Cultivars

Rewton

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Posted 1426251103	Reply with quote #7

It does look like a quality graft but the proof is in the pudding. Ritchie and others who use one of these tools, please keep us updated. __________________ Steve MD zone 7a

figpig_66

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Posted 1426257421	Reply with quote #8

Quote: Originally Posted by palazzophoto I made the original post. I have been doing practice cuts with mine, use a small crescent wrench or calipers to match size and you will not find a tighter fit anywhere. Wow. Grate idea. I am a retired gear box mechanic so i have all my calipers. That is a grate idea. Thanks for chiming in. Couldnt remember your name from original post. But thanks for that i love this tool. Very well made i bought mine from same seller you got yours. __________________ RICHIE BONI HICKORY LOUISIANA ZONE 8B WARM HUMID WINRERS ARE VERY MILD LOW 20'S BUT WARMS RIGHT UP DURING THE DAY. SUMMER IS EXTREMELY HOT & HUMID 100 degrees 100% humidity fig tree grow like crazy but some split from rain & humidity Wish list. Col de dame blanc Col de rimada Lsu numbered figs

figpig_66

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Posted 1426295919	Reply with quote #9

Pellazophoto. Took your advice and used a caliper to match the cutting to motger tree it was getting dark so did a rush job. But as you can see in photo. Very nice clean job. This tool is fun to use. You have to look were the blade is setting on cutting before cutting it. Line it up in middle. Depending on size of stock you have to postion it properly in the middle. this is a lsu st Gabriel black fig to a ischia. I put grafting tape over the zip tie. This was not the proper way to do this. Was getting,dark outside and wanted to post some pics of the joining area fit. Attached Images 2015-03-13_19.46.03.jpg (197.79 KB, 82 views) 2015-03-13_19.46.36.jpg (173.72 KB, 81 views) __________________ RICHIE BONI HICKORY LOUISIANA ZONE 8B WARM HUMID WINRERS ARE VERY MILD LOW 20'S BUT WARMS RIGHT UP DURING THE DAY. SUMMER IS EXTREMELY HOT & HUMID 100 degrees 100% humidity fig tree grow like crazy but some split from rain & humidity Wish list. Col de dame blanc Col de rimada Lsu numbered figs

ChrisK

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Posted 1426298655	Reply with quote #10

Cool stuff Richard. I got the exact one from Amazon for $17 plus a roll of grafting tape. I will be doing a bunch of grafting this weekend! Thanks for sharing and good luck with your grafting. __________________ ChrisK Atl GA Zone 7b-8a

drphil69

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Posted 1426299972	Reply with quote #11

Wow, very nice! I did not realize they could be that inexpensive. I will be grafting in a couple weeks and have one on order, thanks for sharing! __________________ Phil - Zone 7A - Newark, DE Newbie fig lover just trying to learn.

figpig_66

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Posted 1426301973	Reply with quote #12

Yes they are really fun to play with for sure. Cant wait to see my first graft make a bud!!!! __________________ RICHIE BONI HICKORY LOUISIANA ZONE 8B WARM HUMID WINRERS ARE VERY MILD LOW 20'S BUT WARMS RIGHT UP DURING THE DAY. SUMMER IS EXTREMELY HOT & HUMID 100 degrees 100% humidity fig tree grow like crazy but some split from rain & humidity Wish list. Col de dame blanc Col de rimada Lsu numbered figs

Vladis

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Posted 1426315004	Reply with quote #13

Мне нравится делать прививки нож - омега. У них прививки 2 лет. __________________ Зона 8Б ,Туапсе, Россия.

andreas

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Posted 1426315057	Reply with quote #14

nice job Richard. i hope you used grafting tape like you said or it will not take. the union needs to be air and water tight. ChrisK i think its early for you to do it. you need to have the tree pushing buds open and then you graft. if its a potted plant make sure you have watered it well the day before. the graft must be out of sun until it takes. good luck to all who try it. make sure you use the omega or the U cutter not the V. the V is for much softer wood. __________________ andreas-patras Patra Peloponnisos Greece zone..9a

Vladis

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Posted 1426315105	Reply with quote #15

Here is a compound with a knife omega. __________________ Зона 8Б ,Туапсе, Россия.

lifigs

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Posted 1426334208	Reply with quote #16

All the grafts shown look great. Please keep us informed on their progress. If they take this would certainly be a handy tool to pick up. __________________ Bill Long Island (Nassau) 7a,NY Wish List: Sicilian Red, RdB, JH Adriatic, Sal's EL and any fig from Bari.

Vladis

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Posted 1426336414	Reply with quote #17

Андреас , that's a good job. Grafting on persimmon in 2013. __________________ Зона 8Б ,Туапсе, Россия.

DesertDance

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Posted 1426341710	Reply with quote #18

Vladis, your tree looks like it's covered in scale. I'd get that off ASAP. Suzi __________________ Zone 9b, Southern California. "First year they sleep, Second year they creep, Third year they leap!" Wish List: I wish all of you happy fig collecting! My wishes have been fulfilled!

andreas

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Posted 1426341947	Reply with quote #19

Vladis all 3 of your pictures look awesome!!! did you do all 3 with this tool? __________________ andreas-patras Patra Peloponnisos Greece zone..9a

Vladis

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Posted 1426348750	Reply with quote #20

Сегодня я также остановить хурма этого инструмента. Фото привиты инжир Panachee в 2013 году. __________________ Зона 8Б ,Туапсе, Россия.

bamafig

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Posted 1453610226	Reply with quote #21

any updates on these grafts and tool? __________________ zone 8 4 (local) Celeste, Papa John, LSU Purple, Green Ischia, Brunswick, italian honey, BT, Panache, Deanna, LSU Black, O'Rourke Wish list: Chicago Hardy, VDB, RDB

adipose

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Posted 1453620712	Reply with quote #22

I haven't done any grafting before, but my grandpa was very into it. Are you grafting cuttings right onto live trees? __________________ Wish List: sbayi, hmari, niagara black, black ischia

indestructible87

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Posted 1453674888	Reply with quote #23

I didn't get any omega ones with mine. Just v shaped ones. :( __________________ Travis Pittsburgh, PA

Smungung

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Posted 1453676333	Reply with quote #24

Where did you guys purchase theses cutting tools? __________________ Matthew Mei Age:15 Zone 6A Secaucus, New Jersey Aquarist any questions pertaining to fish shoot me a message always willing to help! :) Gardener Fisherman

Bluemalibu

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Posted 1453680215	Reply with quote #25

Mine included the Omega and both 'U' and 'V' blades for $20 with free shipping from Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00R8X5PWK?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00 __________________ Ebay: Bluemalibu NorCal, 9B - Fig Heaven. No fog, no snow; just lots of sunshine!

PeterC

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Posted 1453680391	Reply with quote #26

This is amazing, very cool! __________________ Growing: Sal's Corleone, Brooklyn Unknown, Peters Honey, White Kadoda, Brown Turkey, Black Mission, Deanna, Green Irchia, Hollier, Sals E Wanted: A very cold hardy fig, Hardy Chicago or Celeste Zone 7 Long Island

Smyfigs

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Posted 1453681468	Reply with quote #27

Nice, Richie! Thx for the link, Blue! __________________ Meg-Hardiness Zone 10a Looking for... Socorro Blk Wuhan Jolly Tiger Lamperia Preta Herschtetten St. Jean Black Ischia "The best way to show my gratitude is to accept everything, even my problems, with joy." ~ Mother Teresa "Do not pass by a man in need for you may be the hand of God to him." ~Proverbs 3:27~ "He performs wonders that cannot be fathomed, miracles that cannot be counted." ~Job 5:4

Bluemalibu

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Posted 1453681662	Reply with quote #28

Quote: Originally Posted by Smyfigs Thx for the link, Blue! Anything for you, Meg! LOL!! __________________ Ebay: Bluemalibu NorCal, 9B - Fig Heaven. No fog, no snow; just lots of sunshine!

tennesseefig

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Posted 1453701790	Reply with quote #29

Interesting post. When is the best time to graft on outdoor trees for zone 7? __________________ Micah 4:4But each one shall sit under his vine and under his fig tree, with no one to make them afraid, for the mouth of יְהוָה of hosts has spoken. Zone 7a, wanting: JH Adriatic, Smith, Strawberry Verte, VdB, RdB

Rewton

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Posted 1453725601	Reply with quote #30

Richie and others who have used this omega tool - what was your take rate on grafts? Someone told me that these tools damage the cambium and don't work very well but others have said the opposite. So far my skill at conventional grafting is apparently not very good so I'm seriously thinking about buying one of these. __________________ Steve MD zone 7a

Jsacadura

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Posted 1453732406 · Edited	Reply with quote #31

Rewton, Just my two cents. The blades on these tools are not very sharp, they get dull quite quickly and are very difficult to sharpen again. That causes a quite high percentage of failure because of irregular margins. I bought one of these tools 3 years ago and used it a a few times. I never used it again. If the wood is hard it's quite difficult to get a good clean cut (it may work better with fig trees that are usually softer). But even in soft wood like kiwi, the results were poor. Another problem - the cuttings have to quite perfect. Just the right diameter and bent free or, in most cases, the tool will be almost useless. In my humble opinion is best to invest your time and money learning to graft and purchasing a good grafting knife. In the first year the percentage of success is not very high, but soon you will get the hang of it. With time each new graft get's better and better and soon failure is the exception. I started grafting 3 years ago and now grafting apples, pears, peaches, apricots, plums, kiwis, walnuts, etc, has become easy and the percentage of success if very high. Last year i tried to graft fig trees for the first time and the accumulated experience payed off: __________________ Jaime - Zone 9b - near Caldas da Rainha - Portugal Wish List: São Luís, Valamandil, Sofeno Tradicional, Cótio, Cavaleiro, Belmandil, Coll de Dame de Ciutat, Strawberry Verte, Marabout, Sihagi.

Vladis

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Posted 1453741466	Reply with quote #32

Jsacadura,this tool can not be used for grafting kiwi. The rest of the culture grafted normal. See my photos posted earlier. __________________ Зона 8Б ,Туапсе, Россия.

sarahkt

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Posted 1453745448	Reply with quote #33

I've been using the same tool that Blue posted about, so far so good. The caliper and general shape of the joining ends really do need to be about the same, otherwise it's an awkward fit. I've used it for Asian pear, apple, pomegranate, persimmon, and of course, figs. Used Parafilm to wrap the graft, and electrical tape over that to prevent light-mediated degradation of the Parafilm. It's too early to tell whether they worked or not, but for most the unions looked really good and I didn't notice too much damage to the cambium layer from dull cuts. To hedge my bets, I also did some bud grafts of most varieties. Just in case. :) I have backup grafting material in the fridge too, since I know it's still pretty early but some of the trees seem to be waking up early and I couldn't resist trying some. __________________ Sarah from Bay Area, CA (zone: 9B) Wishlist: Sangue Dolce, Black Ischia (UCD), Peloponnisiaka Aspra Sika

Jsacadura

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Posted 1453745962 · Edited	Reply with quote #34

Vladis, It depends on the maturity of the branch. Older kiwi branches are harder and the tool cuts them like it would cut a vine. I have no doubt that good grafts can result from the use of this kind of tool, like your photos prove. I just don't think that they are worth it in the long run. Mind you i have the same one that Richie (in the first message). I think that are others in the market that have better construction and overall better results. If i absolutely had to use one i would buy a better quality one, like this one: __________________ Jaime - Zone 9b - near Caldas da Rainha - Portugal Wish List: São Luís, Valamandil, Sofeno Tradicional, Cótio, Cavaleiro, Belmandil, Coll de Dame de Ciutat, Strawberry Verte, Marabout, Sihagi.

chucklikestofish

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Posted 1453757728	Reply with quote #35

Quote: Originally Posted by figpig_66 There was a topic on this tool last week which showed this tool that was purchased from a fellow member. Looked good to me so i bought the same one. The tool its self is well made for the money. 20 dollers was the cost so i figured it would be kind of cheap. Surprisingly nicly made eady to use. Very sharp blades. No bruising or damage to cutting. Here a few pics. Look close to the pic of cutting put back together after being cut. Nice fit. Will post pics of a real graft after rain stops. Richie ~man that looks really good rich,i bet you will have all kinds of diff figs on one tree now ,lol,i want to get into grafting this summer ,new to me,do you recogmend the tool then i guess so ?~ __________________

thepodpiper

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Posted 1453759694	Reply with quote #36

Besides one of these grafting tools what are the other essentials needed to start grafting. I am going to get one of these from amazon but might as well get everything I need all at one time. Dale __________________ GARDEN PICS http://s117.photobucket.com/user/thepodpiper/library/?sort=3&page=1

Smyfigs

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Posted 1453775055	Reply with quote #37

Dale, thats what I do is get it everything necessary. I believe you will want to get grafting tape and or wax. I havent grafted before but its what I have seen used. __________________ Meg-Hardiness Zone 10a Looking for... Socorro Blk Wuhan Jolly Tiger Lamperia Preta Herschtetten St. Jean Black Ischia "The best way to show my gratitude is to accept everything, even my problems, with joy." ~ Mother Teresa "Do not pass by a man in need for you may be the hand of God to him." ~Proverbs 3:27~ "He performs wonders that cannot be fathomed, miracles that cannot be counted." ~Job 5:4

Smyfigs

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Posted 1453783782	Reply with quote #38

Okay so, fig addiction + tools addiction = bad addiction! __________________ Meg-Hardiness Zone 10a Looking for... Socorro Blk Wuhan Jolly Tiger Lamperia Preta Herschtetten St. Jean Black Ischia "The best way to show my gratitude is to accept everything, even my problems, with joy." ~ Mother Teresa "Do not pass by a man in need for you may be the hand of God to him." ~Proverbs 3:27~ "He performs wonders that cannot be fathomed, miracles that cannot be counted." ~Job 5:4

Vladis

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Posted 1453790437	Reply with quote #39

Jsacadura ,tool below is considered to be a good and quality. __________________ Зона 8Б ,Туапсе, Россия.

chucklikestofish

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Posted 1453815368	Reply with quote #40

Quote: Originally Posted by Smyfigs Okay so, fig addiction + tools addiction = bad addiction! ~i agree ,but i am going to try it tool or no tool , lol ~!~ __________________

KK4DFU

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Posted 1453819458	Reply with quote #41

I've had great success with mine on apple and cherry trees. Wrapped with paraffin paper and then sealed with tree tar. __________________ Frank Montgomery County, MD Zone 6b Wish List: Sicilian Black,Nero 600M, Fico Genovese, Nordland, Any other interesting Mt. Etna varieties

Smyfigs

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Posted 1453831929	Reply with quote #42

Frank, do you put any hormone solution on your grafts? __________________ Meg-Hardiness Zone 10a Looking for... Socorro Blk Wuhan Jolly Tiger Lamperia Preta Herschtetten St. Jean Black Ischia "The best way to show my gratitude is to accept everything, even my problems, with joy." ~ Mother Teresa "Do not pass by a man in need for you may be the hand of God to him." ~Proverbs 3:27~ "He performs wonders that cannot be fathomed, miracles that cannot be counted." ~Job 5:4

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