Tres num Prato or Sofêno Claro

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lampo

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Posted 1376132387	Reply with quote #1

Large figs of very good taste and flavor, and like with all sofenos, touches of acidic raspberry sweetness, much syrupy...a delicious fig. They started the day very early today with my brown toasts made of country corn bread with hot pork/choriço fat and very cold beer(s)!!, ...back from night jigging...which was not too bad. enough for a family lunch, grilled on 'cork oak' dry wood fire under the old carob 'al fresco'. I am sure my cousin Aurora will ask for some of those figs for dessert!! cheers Francisco Attached Images P1030856.jpg (46.37 KB, 190 views) P1030858.jpg (51.50 KB, 196 views) P1030868.jpg (48.68 KB, 205 views) P1030878.jpg (54.69 KB, 190 views) P1030879.jpg (56.61 KB, 179 views) P1030881.jpg (55.73 KB, 138 views)

persianmd2orchard

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Posted 1376133910	Reply with quote #2

Very nice Franciso!!!! You're living the dream!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

javajunkie

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Posted 1376135092	Reply with quote #3

It just doesn't get better than that! Thank you for the pictures. __________________ Tami SE Texas

paully22

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Posted 1376138932	Reply with quote #4

Ah, fresh squid & figs. Way to go Francisco --- the good life. We love the way it is done at one of our favourite restaurant. Glad we are going for free lunch today at this place. It is a popular dish(order) at this particular restaurant for deep fried squid in batter.

elin

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Posted 1376140058	Reply with quote #5

I havnt eaten squidd long time ago, even uncooked make my mouth water from the possibilities. garlic? paparika? some cherry tomatoes ? maybe some figs on the side :) maybe some on the grill with only salt... i am jealous :) and drooling too at the same time __________________ Eli ,Israel ,Zone 10? Too humid and hot, yada yada yada https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1298814119 Growing: Sbayi, Hmadi, Black Portugal, Black Brazil,Excell, Flanders, Hmari , RDB, Niagra Black,Natalina, CDDN,Maya, Preto Torres, Preto Arge

Giuseppe

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Posted 1376140453	Reply with quote #6

Francisco, hope heaven will be that good.Ciao, Giuseppe

bullet08

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Posted 1376141435	Reply with quote #7

fresh squid... two words. squid sashimi :) and beautiful figs to clean the palette. __________________ Pete Durham, NC Zone 7b "don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher *** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. * * and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...***

lampo

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Posted 1376145174	Reply with quote #8

Thank you all for looking at those fine figs and... squids !! Persian, Yes but I have been living with these scenarios all my life..it's in the blood! Tami, promise to keep sending more pictures Paully, not exactly good life !.. to get those squid I had to find and catch them, a sleepless night/morning, but great pleasure ! for deep frying, these are too big ! we do that in olive oil and lots of garlic but with the baby squid (winter) Eli, yes all that may go with squid but these were plainly grilled, with a scent of smoke from a piece of green coconut thick skin, over the glowing embers...never use salt when grilling cephalopoda...all good flavors go! Giuseppe, Agree..Heaven will have all these and even much better figs! Pete, Those were ideal for sashimi,..being caught a couple of hours before the picture.. Best indication for non experienced fellows will be seeing how clean and crystalline the eyes are . If I could send you a basket of them..? good appetite francisco

Pattee

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Posted 1376147717	Reply with quote #9

Thanks for the phenomenal pictures Francisco! Sooo very appetizing ! __________________ 7a & 9b ►I assume all my figs carry FMV ◄ Seeking : Italian 376,395 , Galicia Negra, Negretta,UNK Pastilliere ,Pananas Purple, Malta Blk+purple/red, Italian + Calabrian UNK's , Catanzaro, Malone, Sucrette(Baud) "We may have our private opinions but why should they be a bar to the meeting of hearts?" - Gandhi

rcantor

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Posted 1376157443	Reply with quote #10

Figs look great. How do you keep the squid from becoming like rubber when you grill them? __________________ Zone 6, MO Wish list: Galicia Negra, De La Reina - Pons, Genovese Nero - Rafed's, Sbayi, Souadi, Acciano, Any Rimada, Sodus Sicilian, any Bass, Pons or Axier fig, any great tasting fig.

lampo

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Posted 1376176308	Reply with quote #11

Thank you Pattee, Bob, for comments. Bob, you are right, a lot of people allow very chewy stuff to land on their plates . They are being tempted by 'rosy´mentions from the menu list for food which is not exactly what the chef says. As regards to squid, (calamari) I would advise to have them not older than 3 to 4 months which would be approx the ones you saw in the pictures ()...at that age they are tender and ideal to be cooked. Bigger/older ones tend to be rubbery, but there are ways to make them much softer ..(the chef should know that). By the way let me tell you that like the wasp, squid's life cycle is very short and may last around 10/12 months max, sometimes much less than that.... dying immediately after laying their eggs. () the ones in the pictures (Loligo vulgaris) had already gone through their sexually active period as they were showing a well advanced egg mass (a delicacy!!), which indicates that they would be ready for spawning in less than 2 months. What is said above for squid , is also valid for octopi and cuttlefish

bullet08

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Posted 1376183160	Reply with quote #12

personally i prefer to "poach" the squid. light cooking in boiling water. it's comes out rather tender. serve with a savory sauce. of course, being a born korean, i prefer korean red hot bean paste thinned in vinegar with sugar. gives nice texture along with taste of squid as it should be, enhanded with bit of acid, peppery spiciness, and sweetness. i was told either you eat squid raw, cooked very lightly, or cooked to death so you don't have to chew it :) __________________ Pete Durham, NC Zone 7b "don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher *** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. * * and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...***

jenniferarino83

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Posted 1376194652	Reply with quote #13

Looking good, I love SQUID. And my favorite dish is called "kellagüin" or "ceviché": throw in a bunch of lemon and lime, spring onion, chile, cilantro and cal it ohhh so good! The fig looks yummy too. Jenny __________________ Jennifer A. Brown Wishlist: NONE Boise ID ZONE 5

lampo

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Posted 1376209318	Reply with quote #14

Jenny, Pete Thank you very much for comments and useful information on those recipes..will try! Pete, Like some figs these mollusks may also be dried; in the old days they were the poor man's food in winter when stormy weather kept fishermen ashore. Still common in the Far East and I am sure in your native Korea . Francisco

genecolin

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Posted 1376215201	Reply with quote #15

Pete I love squid as you put it "boiled to death" with some spices use to boil seafood with. Oh so good. Francisco thank you for some great pictures again. "gene" __________________ From the bayou, "gene" zone 9 Houma, La.

Dieseler

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Posted 1376221645	Reply with quote #16

Dad used to dice up the tentacles mix them with Italian seasonings/bread crumbs etc stuff it inside then bake with red sauce and cheese over them.

lampo

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Posted 1376230188	Reply with quote #17

Still these days....and very popular (stuffed squid)! http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_gYU2r3bMdcM/TMWpbe7-EcI/AAAAAAAACWw/1qbqJlRClIA/s1600/lulas1.jpg http://ntransfers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/lulas-cheias.jpg http://fotos.sapo.pt/nPsK1OJMJLbJHIYz4Jk0/x435

Dieseler

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Posted 1376230333	Reply with quote #18

Thanks for those squid pictures !

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Posted 1376233230	Reply with quote #19

Francisco, Excellent photos and descriptions. Is Prato/Claro a common fig? __________________ jd \| tallahassee.fl \| zone 8b

lampo

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Posted 1376234428	Reply with quote #20

JD, Yes it is a Common fig.. The name 'Tres num Prato' , means <3 figs per plate> Sofêno Claro is the name on different areas. Francisco

cis4elk

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Posted 1376236226	Reply with quote #21

Mmm sort of a cannelloni. What better thing to do with a hollow tube than stuff it. __________________ Calvin Littleton,CO z5/6 Wants List: For everyone to clean-up after themselves and co-exist peacefully. Let's think more about the future of our planet and less about ourselves. :)

Jsacadura

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Posted 1468955561 · Edited	Reply with quote #22

Francisco, The graft of Bomfim (Sofeno Claro) that i have done in May of 2015 has developed nicely and it has 2 branches full of figs with a curious elongated shape. Some of these figs probably were visited by the wasps of the caprifigs you sent me, but some were not (they were too small at the time). I'm curious to see the differences between the caprified and the non caprified ones (they all should develop as i remember you mentioning this fig is a Common and doesn't need the wasp) I also remember that you mentioned in another thread that Sofeno Claro was also a synonym to Três num Prato. I have Três num Prato in a pot from another source and the leaves seem different (no figs to compare though, maybe next year) I can't wait for them to ripen. When is the usual maturity date for this fig in Algarve? Some photos... __________________ Jaime - Zone 9b - near Caldas da Rainha - Portugal Wish List: São Luís, Valamandil, Sofeno Tradicional, Cótio, Cavaleiro, Belmandil, Coll de Dame de Ciutat, Strawberry Verte, Marabout, Sihagi.

lampo

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Posted 1469039047	Reply with quote #23

Hi Jaime, Sofeno claro ripens approx same time as Lampeira Preta main crop,... by early September on my area. Francisco Portugal

Smyfigs

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Posted 1469041945	Reply with quote #24

Francisco, I have to be careful every time I read one of your posts...I drool! I am sure everyone would like to come over to your place for lunch right now. Enjoy! __________________ Meg-Hardiness Zone 10a Looking for... Socorro Blk Wuhan Jolly Tiger Lamperia Preta Herschtetten St. Jean Black Ischia "The best way to show my gratitude is to accept everything, even my problems, with joy." ~ Mother Teresa "Do not pass by a man in need for you may be the hand of God to him." ~Proverbs 3:27~ "He performs wonders that cannot be fathomed, miracles that cannot be counted." ~Job 5:4

Jsacadura

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Posted 1469047759	Reply with quote #25

Thanks, Francisco. That probably means that over here i probably will have to wait a bit longer. I hope they resist some rain (usual over here in September) or else i won't be able to taste them unless i arrange some kind of rain protection. __________________ Jaime - Zone 9b - near Caldas da Rainha - Portugal Wish List: São Luís, Valamandil, Sofeno Tradicional, Cótio, Cavaleiro, Belmandil, Coll de Dame de Ciutat, Strawberry Verte, Marabout, Sihagi.

kkk2210

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Posted 1469062189	Reply with quote #26

Quote: Originally Posted by lampo Large figs of very good taste and flavor, and like with all sofenos, touches of acidic raspberry sweetness, much syrupy...a delicious fig. They started the day very early today with my brown toasts made of country corn bread with hot pork/choriço fat and very cold beer(s)!!, ...back from night jigging...which was not too bad. enough for a family lunch, grilled on 'cork oak' dry wood fire under the old carob 'al fresco'. I am sure my cousin Aurora will ask for some of those figs for dessert!! cheers Francisco Francisco I'm growing this variety which I acquired through a friend from Madeira Island. Is it a common variety as many believe it's Smyrna Type. Thanks a lot. __________________ Vinny Bognor Regis, United Kingdom Wish List : Callara, De La Rio,Cul Noir, Calvy, LSU Red, I-258, Maltese Beauty, Preto, FMV Infected Ischia Black UCD. My Ebay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/myb/Summary?MyEbay&gbh=1

lampo

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Posted 1469067785	Reply with quote #27

@kkk2210 Vinny, Tres num Prato to the best of my knowledge is a Common variety. Francisco Portugal

Jsacadura

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Posted 1469073611 · Edited	Reply with quote #28

Vinny, Although Condit mentioned it as probably a Smyrna type: more recent Portuguese fig documents include it in the Common type: If Bomfim (Sofêno Claro) is indeed the same as Três num Prato as Francisco as said, i can say that all the figs in the lower branch that can be seen in the next couple of photos were not there a month ago when i placed the caprifigs with wasps in this tree, so they were definitely not pollinated and they are developing fine. Photo - June 16 Photo - July 17 I have two other Três num Prato from another source (in the North of Portugal) and i also have a recently rooted cutting, from a tree that a fire burned to the ground (Do Incêndio) that Francisco sent me (Thanks) and he believes that probably is the same variety. We will see next year if all these trees are the same. __________________ Jaime - Zone 9b - near Caldas da Rainha - Portugal Wish List: São Luís, Valamandil, Sofeno Tradicional, Cótio, Cavaleiro, Belmandil, Coll de Dame de Ciutat, Strawberry Verte, Marabout, Sihagi.

evladi7654

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Posted 1469387702	Reply with quote #29

Hi Guys ! I have Tres um Prato Fig tree from Portugal and it has a huge dark Brown Fig fruit as Breba (Breva) I read in the Csience article that this Fig has green skin ?? And in description it says that the Fruit is medium size ?? Can you tell me what you know about this 3 in 1 Plate Fig ?? Quote: Originally Posted by Jsacadura Francisco, The graft of Bomfim (Sofeno Claro) that i have done in May of 2015 has developed nicely and it has 2 branches full of figs with a curious elongated shape. Some of these figs probably were visited by the wasps of the caprifigs you sent me, but some were not (they were too small at the time). I'm curious to see the differences between the caprified and the non caprified ones (they all should develop as i remember you mentioning this fig is a Common and doesn't need the wasp) I also remember that you mentioned in another thread that Sofeno Claro was also a synonym to Três num Prato. I have Três num Prato in a pot from another source and the leaves seem different (no figs to compare though, maybe next year) I can't wait for them to ripen. When is the usual maturity date for this fig in Algarve? Some photos...

Jsacadura

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Posted 1470082882 · Edited	Reply with quote #30

Sorry, evladi7654, I missed your question. Unfortunately, i don't have much information about Três num Prato until my own trees start to produce. Maybe Francisco can tell you more. Apart from Francisco's photos in the first message of this thread i only have a couple more photos of what may or may not be this variety. They are not my photos but those from some guy (in Portugal) that was selling this variety? online (no guarantees the photos are from Tres num Prato). Attached Images 3_num_prato_1_paredes.JPG (184.05 KB, 9 views) 3_num_prato_2_paredes.JPG (230.35 KB, 9 views) 3_num_prato_3_paredes.JPG (308.80 KB, 8 views) 3_num_prato_6_paredes.JPG (246.10 KB, 8 views) __________________ Jaime - Zone 9b - near Caldas da Rainha - Portugal Wish List: São Luís, Valamandil, Sofeno Tradicional, Cótio, Cavaleiro, Belmandil, Coll de Dame de Ciutat, Strawberry Verte, Marabout, Sihagi.

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