Black Ischia from Portugal?

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helike13

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Posted 1466758425	Reply with quote #1

Is this genuine? Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/262487348674 I think it looks like RW's renamed BI... __________________ My varieties: Baracska [P], Tihany [P], Gustissimo® Peretta [P], Dark Portuguese Unk [P], Zidi (UCD) [S], UK Purple [C], Black Bursa [S], Roscoff [PC], Capri UNK [C], Black Malta [P], Panachee Tiger [P], Feng Chan Huang [P], Iraqi (Palmata Hybrid) [P], Ice Crystal [S], Ficus racemosa, De la Reina (MP) [P], Doree Goutte d'Or [P]

tmc2009

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Posted 1466783239	Reply with quote #2

That picture is a screen capture from my video thumbnail. That fig did not come from the tree pictured. I'm guessing that the picture of the fig tree is not his either. Here is the link to my original post. http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/ripe-ischia-black-fig-6403884?highlight=ischia+black&pid=1278535734 __________________ Tom Massachusetts Zone 6b

johnnyq627

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Posted 1466784282	Reply with quote #3

Seems legit... anyone want to buy a unicorn? I raise them myself! __________________ Nick- Youtube: PA Figs \| eBay: tdepoala Zone 6B/7A - Douglassville, PA Wish list - Galicia Negra, Paritjal Rimada, Black Ischia UCD

helike13

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Posted 1466803016	Reply with quote #4

So even the fruit and the tree also mismatched... Does anybody know the seller? Maybe the Portuguese members... __________________ My varieties: Baracska [P], Tihany [P], Gustissimo® Peretta [P], Dark Portuguese Unk [P], Zidi (UCD) [S], UK Purple [C], Black Bursa [S], Roscoff [PC], Capri UNK [C], Black Malta [P], Panachee Tiger [P], Feng Chan Huang [P], Iraqi (Palmata Hybrid) [P], Ice Crystal [S], Ficus racemosa, De la Reina (MP) [P], Doree Goutte d'Or [P]

brianm

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Posted 1466811234	Reply with quote #5

Wow that's shady! I would stay far away from that listing. Here's an idea for you to obtain a real UC Davis Ischia Black. Round up a few nice cultivars that you are willing to trade. Start a new thread with what you are looking for and what you have as trade. This has led me to some great trades over the last few years. Good luck! __________________ Wish list: Galicia Negra,UC Davis Black Ischia, Maltese Raven

kkk2210

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Posted 1466815235	Reply with quote #6

Quote: Originally Posted by helike13 Is this genuine? Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/262487348674 I think it looks like RW's renamed BI... There is an Black Ischia in Europe which is different to whatever the UCD ischia black is I believe. The picture on the ebay add was copied from Tom(New England Gardner's) video. If you look carefully you can see its a screenshot. I suggest you buy from Harvey for UCD version and from Thierry for the European one. __________________ Vinny Bognor Regis, United Kingdom Wish List : Callara, De La Rio,Cul Noir, Calvy, LSU Red, I-258, Maltese Beauty, Preto, FMV Infected Ischia Black UCD. My Ebay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/myb/Summary?MyEbay&gbh=1

helike13

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Posted 1466825496	Reply with quote #7

Quote: Originally Posted by brianm Wow that's shady! I would stay far away from that listing. Here's an idea for you to obtain a real UC Davis Ischia Black. Round up a few nice cultivars that you are willing to trade. Start a new thread with what you are looking for and what you have as trade. This has led me to some great trades over the last few years. Good luck! This for me is not that easy since I am non-US resident... __________________ My varieties: Baracska [P], Tihany [P], Gustissimo® Peretta [P], Dark Portuguese Unk [P], Zidi (UCD) [S], UK Purple [C], Black Bursa [S], Roscoff [PC], Capri UNK [C], Black Malta [P], Panachee Tiger [P], Feng Chan Huang [P], Iraqi (Palmata Hybrid) [P], Ice Crystal [S], Ficus racemosa, De la Reina (MP) [P], Doree Goutte d'Or [P]

helike13

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Posted 1466825574	Reply with quote #8

Quote: Originally Posted by kkk2210 There is an Black Ischia in Europe which is different to whatever the UCD ischia black is I believe. The picture on the ebay add was copied from Tom(New England Gardner's) video. If you look carefully you can see its a screenshot. I suggest you buy from Harvey for UCD version and from Thierry for the European one. Harvey has it and sells it? He did not mention in his Cuttings page... __________________ My varieties: Baracska [P], Tihany [P], Gustissimo® Peretta [P], Dark Portuguese Unk [P], Zidi (UCD) [S], UK Purple [C], Black Bursa [S], Roscoff [PC], Capri UNK [C], Black Malta [P], Panachee Tiger [P], Feng Chan Huang [P], Iraqi (Palmata Hybrid) [P], Ice Crystal [S], Ficus racemosa, De la Reina (MP) [P], Doree Goutte d'Or [P]

brianm

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Posted 1466825770	Reply with quote #9

He doesn't sell it, not yet. __________________ Wish list: Galicia Negra,UC Davis Black Ischia, Maltese Raven

helike13

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Posted 1466827977	Reply with quote #10

Quote: Originally Posted by Vladis https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=849942041759791&set=pb.100002320080230.-2207520000.1466827669.&type=3&theater .Black of Ischia is growing in Russia. This variety has no mosaic virus in Russia. Yes if I am not mistaken UCD sent an instance of BI to Yalta during the Soviet era... __________________ My varieties: Baracska [P], Tihany [P], Gustissimo® Peretta [P], Dark Portuguese Unk [P], Zidi (UCD) [S], UK Purple [C], Black Bursa [S], Roscoff [PC], Capri UNK [C], Black Malta [P], Panachee Tiger [P], Feng Chan Huang [P], Iraqi (Palmata Hybrid) [P], Ice Crystal [S], Ficus racemosa, De la Reina (MP) [P], Doree Goutte d'Or [P]

kkk2210

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Posted 1466828957 · Edited	Reply with quote #11

Quote: Originally Posted by helike13 Harvey has it and sells it? He did not mention in his Cuttings page... Maybe you should ask Thierry. This is the reply I got from him. "Mine come from Porquerolles conservatory created with the Pr. Rivals collection which had an important part of the Condit collection from where it comes. Pr. Rivals made his collection in the 50's and he was in close contact with Condit". So I believe he got the same UCD one. By the way I was told by someone that the UCD Ischia Black source was condit, can someone chime in some light on this information please as I'm not sure. I'll post pics of my tree later today after work. __________________ Vinny Bognor Regis, United Kingdom Wish List : Callara, De La Rio,Cul Noir, Calvy, LSU Red, I-258, Maltese Beauty, Preto, FMV Infected Ischia Black UCD. My Ebay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/myb/Summary?MyEbay&gbh=1

helike13

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Posted 1466838126	Reply with quote #12

If Thierry send you the pics please post them to compare with the UCD BI. __________________ My varieties: Baracska [P], Tihany [P], Gustissimo® Peretta [P], Dark Portuguese Unk [P], Zidi (UCD) [S], UK Purple [C], Black Bursa [S], Roscoff [PC], Capri UNK [C], Black Malta [P], Panachee Tiger [P], Feng Chan Huang [P], Iraqi (Palmata Hybrid) [P], Ice Crystal [S], Ficus racemosa, De la Reina (MP) [P], Doree Goutte d'Or [P]

Vladis

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Posted 1466839116	Reply with quote #13

Черный инжир Ischia, Ischia зеленый, белый Ischia представил из США в Россию в 1934 - 1937 году. Эти сорта сохранились в частных садах. У меня есть черный Ischia без вируса мозаики. __________________ Зона 8Б ,Туапсе, Россия.

Vladis

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Posted 1466839417	Reply with quote #14

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/show_single_post?pid=1288464898&postcount=10&forum=0 __________________ Зона 8Б ,Туапсе, Россия.

HarveyC

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Posted 1466970788	Reply with quote #15

Quote: Originally Posted by helike13 Harvey has it and sells it? He did not mention in his Cuttings page... I did not sell cuttings of it last January as my 2 trees from Tom (TMC2009) have been slow growers as is typical. I obtained cuttings from Herman in November 2015 (he obtained his from Davis 13 years earlier) and grafted them onto BT and they are growing vigorously with the tallest over 5' tall. I planted that one in the ground last week and have 7 more in pots and will plant those in the ground this next week, I hope (clearing a new area for plants just being grown as stock for cuttings). I don't know yet if I will sell cuttings next winter or sell all as grafted trees or do both. __________________ Harvey - Correia Farms Isleton, CA (Sacramento County) USDA zone 9b, Sunset zone 14 http://www.figaholics.com https://www.facebook.com/Figaholics

helike13

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Posted 1466978225	Reply with quote #16

So it's not easy to get... if I would get I will try grafting onto Ficus racemosa... __________________ My varieties: Baracska [P], Tihany [P], Gustissimo® Peretta [P], Dark Portuguese Unk [P], Zidi (UCD) [S], UK Purple [C], Black Bursa [S], Roscoff [PC], Capri UNK [C], Black Malta [P], Panachee Tiger [P], Feng Chan Huang [P], Iraqi (Palmata Hybrid) [P], Ice Crystal [S], Ficus racemosa, De la Reina (MP) [P], Doree Goutte d'Or [P]

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