Is this a pollination problem in Oakland?

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E30

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I have a four year old Bourgassote Gris that has succedded in disapointing me again this year. Ive got a dozen or so figs on it and they all look like this. Im guesssing that I have a pollination problem? Although I've read on the forum that there are polinators in Oakland. Maybe they're just getting lazy with me or my army of ladybugs is taking them out. __________________ Wish list: Maltese, Black Malta Have: My grandpa's Abyad from Lebanon, Barada, Mission, Souadi, Makedonia, Bourjasotte Grise, Rhonde de Bordeux, St. Rita, Panache Tiger, Black Madeira, Baskinta Brown and Purple, Sals EL. Raspberry Latte, All babies :( Italian 258, Galacia Negra (Bass's)

lampo

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Posted 1466759106	Reply with quote #2

E30, your fig has the looks of a caprifig.. If it is a caprifig, your eventual pollination problems are over. What are those black spots seen inside the syconium Did these figs grow on last year's wood ?? or on current this season branches ? Francisco Portugal

jdsfrance

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Posted 1466770510	Reply with quote #3

Hi E30, Looks like powder inside ... So like pollen. So your tree is not Bourjassotte grise but a random caprifig or seedling. You just need to get a new Bourjassotte grise ... __________________ ------------------------ Climate from -25°C to + 35°C Only cold hardy figtrees can make it here

pitangadiego

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Caprifig. __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

E30

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Posted 1466787134	Reply with quote #5

If this is a Caprifig then I got suckered (or is the term BT'd). The tree tag and sticker on the pot shows that it came from the Dave Wilson nursery, I paid about $70 for this thing from a legit local reseller. Francisco: This is growth on last years wood. The dark spots are either shadows or pedicels that apear to be rippening or getting spoiled near the peduncle. All of the figs on the tree are like this. It did the same last year on brebba and new wood. I thought it was just shock from up-potting. Here is a link to higher resolution pictures: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wm0lx27t55xcint/2016-06-18%2014.33.37.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/gncc799waqbhs61/2016-06-18%2014.33.31.jpg?dl=0 So... does anybody need tree for root stock? __________________ Wish list: Maltese, Black Malta Have: My grandpa's Abyad from Lebanon, Barada, Mission, Souadi, Makedonia, Bourjasotte Grise, Rhonde de Bordeux, St. Rita, Panache Tiger, Black Madeira, Baskinta Brown and Purple, Sals EL. Raspberry Latte, All babies :( Italian 258, Galacia Negra (Bass's)

lampo

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Quote: Originally Posted by E30 If this is a Caprifig then I got suckered (or is the term BT'd). The tree tag and sticker on the pot shows that it came from the Dave Wilson nursery, I paid about $70 for this thing from a legit local reseller. Francisco: This is growth on last years wood. The dark spots are either shadows or pedicels that apear to be rippening or getting spoiled near the peduncle. All of the figs on the tree are like this. It did the same last year on brebba and new wood. I thought it was just shock from up-potting. Here is a link to higher resolution pictures: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wm0lx27t55xcint/2016-06-18%2014.33.37.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/gncc799waqbhs61/2016-06-18%2014.33.31.jpg?dl=0 So... does anybody need tree for root stock? E30 Thank you OK.. The fact that the fruit shows up on last years wood confirms it as being a Profichi carrying wasps and pollen for caprification of San Pedro and Smyrna figs This means you may enlarge your capabilities to ripen great smyrna and sanPedro main crop figs although I understand that some fellows may not be interested But nothing is lost.. You may also provide others with late Caprifigs and make some bucks to pay nice parthenocarpic varieties or do trades, etc.. Sorry for this happening but I see that tree and its fruit as an asset on any fig collector. Francisco Portugal

E30

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Posted 1466803349	Reply with quote #7

Francisco, I had no idea. Thank you for the lesson! I wont yank it out of the ground after all. This will pair well with my young Zidi which I think is a smyrna. parthenocarpic, profici... I'm getting a new level of education here on advanced level fig collecting. __________________ Wish list: Maltese, Black Malta Have: My grandpa's Abyad from Lebanon, Barada, Mission, Souadi, Makedonia, Bourjasotte Grise, Rhonde de Bordeux, St. Rita, Panache Tiger, Black Madeira, Baskinta Brown and Purple, Sals EL. Raspberry Latte, All babies :( Italian 258, Galacia Negra (Bass's)

lampo

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Posted 1466804274	Reply with quote #8

Quote: Originally Posted by E30 Francisco, I had no idea. Thank you for the lesson! I wont yank it out of the ground after all. This will pair well with my young Zidi which I think is a smyrna. parthenocarpic, profici... I'm getting a new level of education here on advanced level fig collecting. E30, You are welcome good luck Francisco Portugal

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Posted 1466807179	Reply with quote #9

E30 the fact that you have capri figs does not automatically mean they contain wasps, i have many large capris that do not have wasps. you will need to introduce them to your tree. __________________ aaa

rcantor

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Posted 1466814134	Reply with quote #10

OTOH I'd go back to the store and get your money back. Unidentified caprifigs are a dime a dozen in CA. I'd love cuttings when it goes dormant :) __________________ Zone 6, MO Wish list: Galicia Negra, De La Reina - Pons, Genovese Nero - Rafed's, Sbayi, Souadi, Acciano, Any Rimada, Sodus Sicilian, any Bass, Pons or Axier fig, any great tasting fig.

lisascenic

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Posted 1466920315	Reply with quote #11

Fascinating! I'm in east Oakland, and am very curious to see if you attract wasps.

ohjustaguy

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Posted 1467002849	Reply with quote #12

Quote: Originally Posted by E30 If this is a Caprifig then I got suckered (or is the term BT'd). The tree tag and sticker on the pot shows that it came from the Dave Wilson nursery, Dave Wilson doesn't show that variety on their site. http://www.davewilson.com/product-information/product/figs __________________ San Jose 9b http://www.kevinsedibleyard.com/

Pakaphichaya

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Quote: Originally Posted by E30 I have a four year old Bourgassote Gris that has succedded in disapointing me again this year. Ive got a dozen or so figs on it and they all look like this. Im guesssing that I have a pollination problem? Although I've read on the forum that there are polinators in Oakland. Maybe they're just getting lazy with me or my army of ladybugs is taking them out.

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brianm

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Posted 1467505382	Reply with quote #15

As mentioned above. __________________ Wish list: Galicia Negra,UC Davis Black Ischia, Maltese Raven

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