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Something I have never seen before!  The 1st picture is 2 Alma figs growing out of the same node,  which I have seen in Peter's Honey fig variety quite often.  But the second picture is of Flanders where there are 2 figs growing out of the same node but on opposite sides.  

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I dont have enough experience with figs but it's interesting to me so I'll follow this thread to read comments!
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Could figs be mutating?
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Ahh ha! I think you got it!  The answer is in the picture.  If you look next to each fig fruit stem on the Flanders there is a leaf stem also.  Figs only produce a leaf on one side of a node not both.  So it possible this is a mutated node that has a leave coming out of both sides instead of one.  Which also allows a fig to form above the leaf. This would otherwise be impossible since there would be no where for it to come out of.  

If this mutation is stable and I can clone the stem thru either a cutting or air layer.  I may be able to have a Flanders fig that produces 2x more leaves and 2x more figs, which would be incredible as Flanders is already a very heavy bearer of figs.  

Here is one of my Flanders that was grown from a cutting taken in early March 2015 and planted on May 20th 2015 (size is about 6ft tall x 7ft wide.  

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As you can see, it is already quite loaded with fruit, I can't even imagine 2x that much!. 

 




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Nice,what are you feeding these guys Sid?
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Nothing yet, I wanted to see how much fruit and how big they would get without fertilizer. That tree has already ripened many fruits between 70-100 grams. It's 33% promix, 33% coco coir and 33% #4 perlite soilmix.

I have 5 Flanders fig trees 1 older/mother tree I planted in December and 4 cuttings I planted on May 20th they are in 20 gallon pots in 4 inch deep 20 inch wide saucer trays of water that are always filled to the top.

I was planning on trying to give each tree a different type of fertilizer combination to see which one produces the best tasting figs.

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<Nothing>That's funny,I knew I was doing something wrong.<G>
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Here, this link may help explain why my trees are growing so fast with "nothing".

"Because rainwater contains nitrogen in forms that plants can absorb, and plants need nitrogen to grow, farmers have noticed that rainwater stimulates more plant growth than water from other sources. That's good, in that farmers don't need to apply as much artificial fertilizer." 

http://classroom.synonym.com/rainwater-contain-nitrogen-8461.html.

We have been having record rainfall and many thunderstorms.

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Looks good , good luck on producing double fruit.
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Figgysid1, how's propagating the double fruit gone? Did the mutation stabilize in the new tree?
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Both sides of the node have branches with 5 figs each, none are doubled.. I found another odd fig, this fig formed at the tip of a branch, instead of leaves its making a fig, another 1st. :)

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Sorry to hear that and that fig in the pic is so unusual! For a moment, I thought the fig was a head and the leaf the torso.
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