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Raintree Nursery has a Tashkent Fig for sale.  Does anyone know if this fig is going by a different name?   Has anyone heard of this fig?

Here is the description Raintree provides.
This green fig has an excellent flavor. Raintree brought it from Uzbekistan where it was the heavy producing favorite among many cultivars in the garden of a Uzbek horticulturist. The fruit is green and flesh light colored with an excellent flavor. It thrived in the cold Tashkent winter but hasn't been tried in cold regions in the United States. It has not set well in Raintree's maritime climate and prefers areas with hot summers.                                

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No experience with this fig, but I do have it coming in April. Tashkent being a part of the former USSR, I figured it may be a bit colder there, being a good candidate for success in MA climate. I want to see if it could do well in a cool, humid climate.

The following link shows a  map of a possible zone 5 for Tashkent, with lows ranging from -20 to -10 F. Tashkent is in the lower left.

http://www.mobot.org/MOBOT/Research/russia/images/Fig_02.jpg

Here is a link to the whole page.

http://www.mobot.org/MOBOT/Research/russia/climatic.shtml

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I bought that fig from that source 2-3/4? years ago. Suffers severely from FMV  to
that extent that the slow growing tip almost tight-itself into a scout  "knot". 
I lost it, and do not want it back...
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Thread on GW about this fig and some of the growing experiences of it: 

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/fig/msg092124241517.html
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Looks promising! If I was going to waste $25, it might as well have been on McDonald's!
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Hi Jason and everyone.

I got one of these last fall and it's in ground now.

Doesn't sound promising though, based on multiple reports.

If just a few people had this problem I wouldn't be concerned, but looks like some people who really know their figs are having trouble with this one.

Oh well, you win some lose some.

Gives me an excuse to buy another fig!  ;-)
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I will be trying the little 4" pot for $12, which will be arriving by mid-Feb.
Maybe it will like our Texas summer heat.
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If it's got FMV and is a slow grower, don't some people here say to keep fertilizing it in its first few years and not worry about getting figs from it right away?

Also, is this tree self-fertile?

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Or do what Ray Givian says....place the potted tree on top of a fire ant mound.  The ants will eat the microrganisms and clear up the virus.  I haven't tried it but worth a try.   cheers,
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Ray Givens  states in his video he tried this several times for nematodes not FMV sitting on top of fire ant mound.
It wont work curing FMV well it could if they ate the whole plant   ; ) cause FMV resides within the plants cells .
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I find it very fascinating that some trees are naturally FMV resistant and can sit right next to another tree, never getting it. Some are so FMV prone that the leaves curl and are misshapen. I have no experience with FMV yet but I have now acquired so many trees/cuttings, through people and nurseries, that I may have some experience this spring/summer, which can not get here fast enough. Yesh! I am very curious about the Tashkent and am looking forward to getting it this spring. Since so many people have had trouble with this variety, I wonder whether the stock, environment, pot culture, and/or growth rate(patience) are affecting others experiences. May be that this is just not a good variety. Experience is the one true teacher.

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You want (serious) FMV! Also try Ischia Black...
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You know Gorgi I would like to try Ischia Black!  I had one cutting from UCD last year.  It rooted and died.  If I get one from UCD this year, I'm going to graft it onto another tree and see what happens.  cheers!
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Nah. I'll take my chances with what I have. But Thanks for the suggestion. I was lucky last year and didn't see any in its most serious forms. But since I acquired so many trees since last August, my chances will increase. Not to say I will get it, I just think I should come to expect it in some form, most likely mild.

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Here we go:

This is the one that had FMV or another virus that basically destroyed it. But a sprout came from the roots and I decided to chop off what was originally growing. But what started growing off the original tree may still contain traces of what I got rid of originally.

So I decided today to stop the air-layer and chop the original off the root system below the soil line. I kept the sprout on the existing root system and lowered it in the existing pot to bury what started to root on the  air layer.

It has ABSOLUTELY NO signs of anything YET! I know it may come back at any time, but time will tell. But the growth is healthy and lush-very satisfying!

All this growth is in the last 4 to 5 weeks.
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Hi Dominick.

My Tashkent has been growing in ground all summer, and it actually looks pretty good.

Maybe there is still hope.

Hope you are well my friend and having a great summer.

John
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Mine Tashkent was planted in the ground in the spring.  My entire plant was about 5" tall when I got it.  Though it has not grown like my other figs (ones in the pots) I am happy with the growth so far this year.  
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I have one from rain tree,when it was in a pot it looks terrible,and was near death,so I put it in the grown.The tree made it through the Brutal winter,and I got two Air layers from it ,and no signs of FMV. No figs ,and the leads could be a little darker,but a nice-looking little tree.
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Victor, did you have any dieback on this one this winter?  How cold did it get there?  Thanks.
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My Tashkent was about 4' tall at the end of last year.  It died completely back to the ground due to our winter but came out this spring.  I provided absolutely NO protection for it this past winter.  I believe there are several trunks but probably none more than a quarter size in diameter.  No figs yet.
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Hi,

I got some Tashkent cuttings from Apache on ebay.  So far the cuttings have rooted and look good.  Will try and post pictures of young plants this week.  Still babies tho.
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any pictures of the fruit yet? <:)
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СССР не был разнообразие инжир "Ташкент". Это неправильное название придумал болельщик исключительно для коммерции. Кто размещены фото фруктов, листьев? Инж.Узб.Жёлтый..jpg 
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Mine fruited to me this year--3 days ago.  I have no picture. I just ate it!  It has a yellowish brown color.
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I bought cuttings from Apache on ebay, all three died on me. However, I can tell you a bit about this fruit since we I used to live in Uzbekistan. The fig in question is probably a Sari Zaybek. It is a flatish, yellow-green fig that my family loved fresh.

As for climate, Tashkent is probably something like zone 7, or 6 at the coldest. Winter lows might hit single digits (in Fahrenheit), but summers are often 100+ for days on end. I would guess this fig is fairly cold hardy, but needs quite a bit of summer heat to make the sweet fruits it is known for.
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I bought cuttings from Apache on ebay


Me too.

My 3 cuttings rooted,but they all have a bad case of FMV with stunted growth in pots in their 2nd year. :(
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I took a photo of my poor Taskents.      They linger on ;)

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Hi,

Does anybody ever had any ripe fruit from this variety?
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Hi, everyone.

I also look forward to seeing its pic in ripe ,too.
Hope someone can do it.
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I'll see how mine do this year.  The cuttings from Apache did well so hopefully I will have one this year.  They were started late so they did not grow too much in the first year.
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I couldn't believe that I left my small Tashkent out in the Cravo.  I meant to keep them warmer since they were so small.  Went out and there they were with the big boys.  They look like they are doing well despite the near freezing temps that they were exposed to.  Spring will tell.
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Hi,

Does anybody ever had any ripe fruit from this variety?


We used to live near Tashkent, so we ate these a lot. They are a large yellow fig, amber-colored on the inside. They are more of a honey fig, super sweet, but not so much "figgy" tasting as others.
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I got a few figs on my potted 3 gallon tree. Will follow up with photos once they're ripe. It looks very much like a big flat yellow fig similar to what Vladis posted.
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Ин.Узб.Жёлт.5.Ф2..jpg  Я нашел фотографию этого сорта "узбекской желтый" в США "Ташкент".

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Ин.Узб.Жёлт.Ф.4..jpg 

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Yes that looks like it, uzbek yellow (узбекской желтый) or Tashkent 
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5070..jpg IMG_5000.jpg IMG_5086.jpg IMG_5022.jpg   

Узбекская желтая в моем саду.
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I used to live in Uzbekistan and now planning to grow "Tashkent" fig here in California (San Diego area)hope Tashkent would like this climate and Californian sun??

This type of fig is very popular in Uzbekistan, it is very very delicious! Sweet-honey-juicy...mmm... I'm definitely missing it here. In summer time you could see a mountains of yellow figs at the Uzbek bazaar (local farmers market)

According to the article from Vlladis (from above) one tree in average can produce about 48 kg (105.8 Lb) of figs per year! I keep noticing in many comments and reviews from US growers that Tashkent is not doing that well here..maybe it needs a certain climate and weather conditions??

Here is some info about Uzbek climate  from Wikipedia
"Uzbekistan's climate is classified as continental, with hot summers and cool winters. Summer temperatures often surpass 40 °C (104 °F); winter temperatures average about −2 °C (28 °F), but may fall as low as −40 °C (−40 °F). Most of the country also is quite arid, with average annual rainfall amounting to between 100 and 200 millimeters (3.9 and 7.9 in) and occurring mostly in winter and spring. Between July and September, little precipitation falls, essentially stopping the growth of vegetation during that period of time"

here are some more pictures of "Tashkent" figs..
Just love it... will try to grow...

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What a nice looking fig and I understand it is cold hardy!

One to add to my wish list.
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Does anyone have an update on this variety? I'd like to give a healthy cutting a try.
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I decided to put this one in the ground in the spring of last year. Despite being a fast grower, It wasn't doing well in pot and has not fruited for me at all.
Don't know if the person that posted photos of the fruit above is in the US or not. Sorry, Don't have any cuttings available at this time.
This tree is one of very few that remained intact after transplanting in ground and without any irrigation. Don't think that it is established yet and may take a few more years before it really takes off.
I never protected it in winter.
Planting trees at that location has been a struggle when it came to having them survive. I just replaced approximately 8 out of 22, only to have some ravaged by wild boar.



The next photo is before it went dormant last month.





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It IS a nice looking fig....
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Posted Reply with quote  #44 
My Tashkent is in its second leaf, has grown well and is around 5' tall. I moved it up to a fifteen gallon pot a few months ago. It still has all its leaves for this season. There were no figs this year. Perhaps next year?

Raintree Nursery doesn't list it on their website or in their catalog any more but Tashkent will come up for sale if you do a specific search for it. They write:  "It has not set well in Raintree's maritime climate and prefers areas with hot summers." 

Our water is salty and alkaline here in SoCal and might not be appreciated. I have to use bottled water for some of my tropical plants. I've even noticed much better growth on my epiphylliums when watered with bottled water and now *RAIN*. I wonder what kind of water do they have in Uzbekistan?
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