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This fig is fast becoming my favorite. The fig produces a big breba crop that fills the gap in July and a bountiful quality main crop ripening now.
The breba and main crop are both a nice large size and a rich sweet unique flavour with caramel tones. The original owner of this fig thought it to be Sicilian Red because the 1st crop breba figs looks very much like Palermo red, Aldo's and Sal's Corleone. Now it has been positively identified as the Sicilian fig Gisotta Nero by a Sicilian fig collector.
Thanks for looking comments welcome.
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Luzzu
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Very nice Joe is this the same as the sicilian black you gave me Raffaele
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pino
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Hi Raffaele I gave you the Sicilian Black JR that I got last year from the same Sicilian gentleman. In June this year he went to Italy and I got this 4yr old fig from him before he left. They are very similar but the JR is a black fig and this one is dark red. I have started some air layers already.
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kool thanks
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Very nice Pino! Thank you for sharing pictures of your red.
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Nice looking shots. The caramel tones in the flavour sounds fantastic.Sounds like a keeper for our area as well with both breba and main crop figs. If there is any chance you would be willing to sell/share cuttings I'd be very interested. Thx for sharing your photos with us all.
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pino
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Thanks Leon! Your photos of Aldo's Palermo Red were also very nice. How is Aldo at producing brebas? Thanks Steve, I just got this fig in Late June it is in need of root pruning and up potting. I am doing some air layers now and should have some cuttings in the fall!
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beautiful fig! if you have clippings in fall, let me know, I would like to try rooting these again.
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This was a down year for my Aldo's Palermo Red. Both potted trees and in ground tree did not produce many brebas and the main crop figs were smaller than previous years. I look forward to a better season in 2017.
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Originally Posted by gofiger Nice looking shots. The caramel tones in the flavour sounds fantastic.Sounds like a keeper for our area as well with both breba and main crop figs. If there is any chance you would be willing to sell/share cuttings I'd be very interested. Thx for sharing your photos with us all.
Steve, Not sure if the caramel tones is the best description for the taste. I'll try again to describe it seems every fig has a slightly different rich complex flavour, juicy, super sweet, a little figgy but with a fresh jammy exotic berry. Here is another one today it was juicier probably due to the heavy rain over night.
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More beautiful shots. One can only judge taste with there own taste buds. But thank you for taking more time to describe the flavour a little more.I was more impressed with the performance/size characteristics you have mentioned as we are pretty much in the same climate zone and the fact that someone with real fig experience like yourself was so happy with it's results. Again I'd be very interested in some cuttings and would even be happy to drive down your way to get them....and check out your set up....lol. I'm just enjoying all this new fig stuff so much. Can't wait for retirement so I have just that much more time to putter around with it.
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pino
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Thanks Steve!
Totally agree! “tutti i gusti sono gusti” especially with the many wonderful tasting figs out there.
This fig is a keeper for me! Only got it a while ago though I’ll let you, Peter and others know when I can take some cuttings.
Mean while I am working on an air layer for a backup.
How many figs are you planning? Do you have lots of space for growing and winter storage?
Would love to have a coffee with you Pm me if you are in area.
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Thx Pino. I don't have any solid plans for numbers of trees. My goal now is to find 2-3 varieties that do well in this area and go from there. Right now I'm not planning any in ground trees...but knowing myself and how I like to learn/ experiment I'm pretty sure I will venture down that path. I would have room for at least a dozen trees in my back yard and storage in my cold cellar for all of them...but I have no plans to go that much into it. Looking forward to getting together someday. It's always exciting to learn new things.
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Originally Posted by gofiger Thx Pino. I don't have any solid plans for numbers of trees. My goal now is to find 2-3 varieties that do well in this area and go from there. Right now I'm not planning any in ground trees...but knowing myself and how I like to learn/ experiment I'm pretty sure I will venture down that path. I would have room for at least a dozen trees in my back yard and storage in my cold cellar for all of them...but I have no plans to go that much into it. Looking forward to getting together someday. It's always exciting to learn new things.
2-3? Don't kid yourself :) you will not be able to resist collecting and stop there! None of us can resist the call...
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Steve... This is fig mania so likely any number that you are projecting, you should automatically raise to the power of 2 or 3 to get an idea of the actual number you should expect to acquire on your journey through figdom...
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Hi Pino, nice pics. I think caramel undertones is accurate description. Steve, if you have the room in your yard, definitely go for an in ground fig. If you get something that is hardy enough for southern Ontario, they are so much easier to take care of. and if you are growing in pots, there are lots that do well here.
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pino
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Thanks for confirming the taste Grant! Have enjoyed all 6 figs so far! They are easy to determine when ripe so look forward to 5 more ripening now and a bunch more yet to swell. It seems we all want only a few fig varieties when we start. Then we end up with 100 and sit there with our jaws dropped wondering what we will do with all these figs now. Then it is just as much fun simplifying your collection to a manageable number. This last step takes much longer than the 1st.
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That's why I'm taking my time and trying to keep my collection small. I've learned through my veggie gardening how easy it is to get carried away. We all like cantaloupes so one year I put in a full row and when they started to ripen we had over 30 5-6 pounders within a weeks time. I gave cantaloupes to every neighbour I saw...Debbe and I both took them into work for co-workers ...our fridge was full and lots rotted because we just had too many to deal with. Don't wanna do the same dance with Figs. Not saying it won't happen...cause I do have that dive in head first.. go big or go home gene...but I'm going to TRY and reign it in.
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Sicilyfigs
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like this figs. I have this in my orchard. We call it gisotta Nero. I live in East sicily Acireale
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Originally Posted by Sicilyfigs like this figs. I have this in my orchard. We call it gisotta Nero. I live in East sicily Acireale
Grazie Siciliyfigs! Acireale looks very beautiful and you are only 1hr from the Etna Volcano. Many figs in N. America are said to come from that area. Would love to see photos of your fig trees.
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Etna volcano is unique. Many sicilian was immigrated to Argentina. I have a lot of figs and trees photos but in my FB Joy Cookies
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Have you been in sicily
pino
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Not yet, Many of my friends and family have visited Sicily several times. I am planning to travel there next year. Planning to see a few giardini, fig farms or conservatory, the volcano and other tourist sites. What is the link to your facebook?
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pino
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The stem will not break off or pull off. Need to find a way to pick the fig when perfectly ripe and not rip the skin at the stem.
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pino
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After the recent postings of dark French blue/red/violette figs and other Sicilian figs I am wondering fi this fig is also grown in France. The main crop does have a striking similarity to Bourjasotte Noir and Violette de Soilles but those figs are unifera and this Sicilan Red produces abundant brebas see post #1. Just got this fig this summer as Sicilian Red. The fig came from a 90 yr old Sicilian gentleman who had a great fig collection. (He is having to downsize now since he moved sp I got a decent size tree). The leaves and main crop figs do resemble other Sicilian Red figs I have seen posted including Aldos and Palermo Red. This fig has become my favourite because of performance (both breba and main crop producton) and taste. Comments suggestions welcome.
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Oh my! :)
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A very nice look fig no matter what the name is. It is nice that the first crop is ready in July.
pino
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Thanks Peter and Tony! One other interesting thing about this fig in addition to the taste and performance is that all the figs have been amazingly consistent. Same size, same skin and flesh colour, same taste all excellent quality and no splitting even during the bouts of heavy rain.
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pino
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This fig tree has out grown the 15 gal container so I will be root and balance pruning and planting in ground next summer. This means I can take a few cuttings now if anyone is interested PM me. It is an amazing fig! The only fig I have ran into that is a great producer of BOTH 1st crop (breba/fiorone) and main crop. Other figs are big producers of one or the other but not both. The taste of these brebas is my best tasting. First one I tasted completely knocked me off my feet; http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/show_single_post?pid=1288048249&postcount=1&forum=0 The main crop figs are high quality and each fig consistent in size, looks and taste (see photos). This fig was labeled as Red Siclian but was later identified as Gisotta Nero by a Sicilian fig collector who also grows it. It is very similar in looks and taste to Sal's Corleone but a much more vigorous grower and bigger fig producer. It also looks very similar to Sicilian Black JR also a big breba producer. Difference is brebas are more red than black and the main crop is earlier ripening. A great addition to fig collections due to taste, big breba production and quality main crop. Thanks for looking and happy fig growing 2017!
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