Encanto Farms Nursery > Categories > --- Raspberry El Molino Unk. fig (PIX) == Patlican

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greenfig

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I found this fig tree last year, but only with 1 last fig (I have a thread about it on the forum). That fig tasted superb and I found some time to get there today to check it in the middle of the season.

The tree is large (2 stories high, 3 stories wide), and covered by the most delicious figs I’ve ever tried. When I gave some to my wife, her natural response was, “Why are we bothering with all those pots in our backyard if these grow freely???”. I did’t know what to say in return …

The fig has the red center but it is not a strawberry flavor like Adriatic Grasa or Strawberry Verte, it is much more on a raspberry side. Juicy, soft, crunchy! Seems to be closed eye and no split fig noticed on the tree. 

Any ideas on what variety is this???

I got a few cuttings hoping to propagate it at home.
Enjoy!

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deerhunter16b

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Very nice

figgary

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That is a beautiful fig, Igor. It looks like a Grise de St Jean on the outside, and GdSJean is supposed to be a very large tree. I don't think the flesh is that raspberry color though. Whatever it is, I hope that you'll be able to get cuttings.

waynea

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Looking good Igor, keep up the search for new unknowns, you have found some really good figs.

Grasa

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Well Igor, why do you bother with pots?

These look like real jewels to grow and have... your description is very enticing. And here I am munching on a giant purple turnip I pulled from the garden. I much rather be having ripe raspberry tasting figs.

I have a few brebas trying to droop, I will see if I can get some pictures to show off also.

My first one is a green ishia grafted onto my boss' adriatic.  Following by Panachee, Adriatic (from Wallingford/Seattle) and my purples....

shah8

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That looks a lot like the major common-type fig from Turkey.  I forget the name.

greenfig

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Thanks, guys!
Yes, they do look like the real jewels!

I should have taken a photo of the tree itself too, it is a beautiful tree, with gray bark and small leaves, maybe next time I am there.

I have no way to verify this but it looks like a common fig to me. The figs on the tree now is the main crop.
I think I missed the breba time this year. 

tylerj

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Looks great Igor... great find!!

Tyler

shah8

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Patlican was the fig I was thinking of--http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/patlican-fig-5082569

Grasa

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With a tree that large, you could put on an airlayer and come back for the tree in a month or so... Cali if heaven for these trees. 

I am thining up weaker branches of mine and opening my canopy so, that the new grafts get sunlight and air.  those large trees, the more you cut the more they grow.

greenfig

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shah8,

Thanks for the link! 
Patlican for me looks much darker and elongated fig. This one is rounder.
Also, the leaves are very different. Let me take a photo of the leaves and the tree in the next day or two.

It still maybe a Patlican since the growing conditions are different, I do not know.

greenfig

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Grasa,

I was thinking about an air layer but the location the tree is growing at is not very good for this. I have to talk to the gardeners first or they will knock it down.
It is by an apartment complex, nicely groomed and in a great condition. 

rafaelissimmo

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Boy those red interiors look beautiful, I hope it roots for you!

twovkay

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Nice find! Hope the cuttings root for you.

greenfig

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Thank you!
I hope to root them and share!

lampo

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Igor,

That' a fine fig!
Crunchy ? and with those corresponding flavors ?

For a while thought of Patlikan or,.. may be Vassilika Melissi

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Xv4YWoKxSk0/UuaW7-1zQzI/AAAAAAAAHh0/GNTVVt5BrK8/s1600/Vesilika+Melissi.jpg

May be our fellow members from Greece could help and clarify this.

On the coming Feb15 mandatory pruning, on such a fig, you may get many bags of scions.

BTW Jeremiah trees for pruning are Black Smyrnas not Violetas...the word has spread and some local  nursery bought all his fig wood! He said he does not need help anymore as they will happily   prune for free but take the all the old wood.

Francisco

JohnnieB

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That sure does look like a tasty fig.

JohnnieB

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After looking at your pics, it really resembles Turkish Brown to me. There are some for sale on ebay actually from Turkey. 

elin

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Whatever it is - very nice skin and meat. Nice plate too.
got better leaf pictures?

greenfig

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Eli, I will post the photos of the tree and leaves as soon as I visit it. JohnnieB, Could you post a link, please? You do no mean a Brown Turkey, right? Francisco, Vassilika Melissi?? Wow, that would be terrific! There are a lot of people from Armenia, Greece, Iran in the area so in theory it is possible that someone brought a cutting of their best childhood fig.

lampo

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Have one VMelissi potted , first year... see the leaf and fig.
Those neighbors must have good replicas of their very best..jewels!
Nice place to make friends
Francisco


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JohnnieB

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/TURKISH-BROWN-FIG-TREE-3-FRESH-CUTTINGS-/271550032811?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f39a4abab



   Take a look at the link and tell me what you think. It is definitely not any "Brown Turkey" that I recognize.

greenfig

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Wow! Yes, they do look similar, I wish we could see the inside of that Turkish fig.

m5allen

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Wow, beautiful fig.  If you could snag some extra cuttings I think you might just have a few people interested.

JohnnieB

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/TURKISH-BROWN-FIG-100-FRESH-SEEDS-/271531610101?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f388b8ff5


Here is another link with the inside of the ripe figs shown. Hope this helps a bit.

GeneDaniels

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[QUOTE=shah8]Patlican was the fig I was thinking of--http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/patlican-fig-5082569

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Shah,I do believe you are right. It is the "eggplant fig" (translation) or something very close to it.

greenfig

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Shah8 and JohnnieB,

The figs in the second link look like mine too! Thank you for your detective help!

If it is a Patlican, so be it, btw, is this the way it is named?
It is a very fine fig regardless of the actual name but the correct name gives it an official status :)

I was really curious and took some tree and leaves photos. What you see, is a half of the tree, the other half is to the right but I couldn’t take the entire tree into the frame.

As a note, I have NOT noticed any signs of the FMV.



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shah8

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It's an old and healthy tree that has been cared for.  Symptoms generally diminish with age.  The figs are probably the best you'll get out of that variety, too, given age and health.

greenfig

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I renamed the thread title to reflect the fact that the fig name most likely has been found.

But if anybody has any more ideas, please let me know!

dinhml

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Greenfig do you share or sell your cuttings? i would love to have a cutting or two from your variety

greenfig

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Mike,

PM me please.

vito12831

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Hi Igor.
That's a beautiful looking fig. Keep me in mind.

Vito

greenfig

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So, it seems the El Molino is a common fig after all. This is the first report ripening the figs outside the wasp belt (thanks, Neil!):

http://www.ourfigs.com/forum/figs-home/36206-five-unbelievable-things-about-wills-you-would-never-guess

( A spoiler: it is reported better than an RdB but without caprification might be a smaller fig than pictured at the top of this thread).


figgary

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Sooooo happy to learn that this fig is a common, Igor. I can add that this fig was among the easiest to root that I've had. I won't have ripe ones to taste until next year, can't wait.

greenfig

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Thanks, Gary!

I wish a somebody else would have a fig to show just to make sure it is consistent.
I am sure the next year will be better (or later this Fall).

ChrisK

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Very nice fig Igor. I was actualy reading Phils' review on Friday and drooling over this jewel. Well the fig gods smiled upon the Chris K household and the following day little miss Gabbie K ( my 14 year old daughter) won an airlayer of the "El Molino" at Dennis' fig festival. It was brought by Marianna. Thanks Igor for finding it and Marianna for sharing it so selflessly.

greenfig

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That is great ! Thank you, Chris, for letting me know and thank you , Marianna, for sharing! Were there any figs to taste by any chance? It seems it is growing well if it's ready for an airlayer.

ChrisK

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No figs to taste and I could be wrong on the air layer! I just assumed it was! I had Gabbs read the thread on her new fig last night before bed and she's all exited! Now we need to get some fruit and find out how awesome it is!

SycamoreFarm

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This is great news. El molino has been my best grower.

MariannaMiller

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ChrisK, it was not an air layer but one in the last batch of cuttings I started so it was a bit smaller and more transportable than the others. I tend to start one or two cuttings every month of new cultivars so if I mess up, I have not planted all of the new cultivar and can learn from my experience and start over.  The cuttings I got from Igor have done very well.  The earliest I started is now close to 4' tall and branching nicely. It appears to be very happy here.  I have not checked nodes thoroughly but I do not believe it is fruiting yet.  Just a robust grower and very healthy. Am really looking forward to fruit and to getting it in ground where I am sure it will really take off. Patlicans grow in some of the colder areas of Turkey so I am pretty sure they should be ok for zone 7 and possibly even some more protected areas of zone 6. My daughter-in-law is from Turkey and its one of her favorite varieties.  She tells me it is one of the larger fruited varieties.  I took home one of ChrisK's  Unk. Slidell Blacks and a Green Ishia from Dennis' collection, so it was definitely a figgy Christmas in August for me.  Busy getting everything up potted before leaving to ride the Katy Trail through MO. next month. Will be keeping my eyes pealed for figs and pawpaws along the way.

elin

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Igor hi.

I think El molino is a Hmadi. the inside , outside (here abit late season -thus the lighter color)  and leafs match. Also the taste profile matches -  which is on the raspbaerry side means a more acidic taste. Hmadi has that sweet mild acidic taste without much of that figgy taste.
In my pots it leaf out early than most varieties and a great grower too.

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elin

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Also Patlican is shown here and its a breba variety:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pVGO9qs978

drew51

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Wow, I love these unknowns, so has it be determined what it is? You should offer this one or if you do, tell us which is is? I would love to try it.

elin

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Igor on your picture- 1969378.jpg   look at the leaf on lower far left and right- their a bit deformed like the ones in my pictures.

greenfig

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Eli, Thanks for your feedback ! Great news if it is Hmadi. What is true for sure, whatever figs I have acquired so far, are different. On your photo , the figs are pollinated , correct? It seems unpollinated they look a bit different but still very good. It is a very vigorous veriety and the mother tree looks healthy .

elin

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We should compare more in this season. I have 3-4 of these "raspberries" in pots.

If it is different ill ask for cuttings :)

binbin9

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Is hmadi the same as Hmari? My hmari cutting ha finally shown some signs of life. =)

elin

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They are different fore sure.

Unlike Hmadi , hmari can only eaten fresh cause the skin is very delicate.
Tastewise depends what you like.
Hmadi subacid berrylike
Hmari sweet aromatic

Smyfigs

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Wow, Igor, beautiful fig! A very nice find that is for sure!

newbie

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Mine still in rooting process. Hopefully they all grow well. Thanks Igor for your kindness. Can't wait for this variety. Will update here on its progress

Smyfigs

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Drew, I agree. Some unknowns are really great finds.

Jodi

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And I have to remind myself that all Figs were unknown to us once! They use us well these savy trees!

drew51

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[QUOTE=Smyfigs]Drew, I agree. Some unknowns are really great finds. [/QUOTE]

Yes, Pt Loma Unknown also looks very interesting. Next winter I have to ask Greenfig  about cuttings to this one! I would really like to try it.

ercan_bilgi

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I think you need a Turkish guy to give information about Patlican fig .I am Turkish :) so will let you know about this unknown fig soon...

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Here is mine, THANKS IGOR.  Its looking healthy in that 10 gallon pot. El Molino2.jpg  El Molino1.jpg 

greenfig

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Wow! Please update when the figs are ripe!

MariannaMiller

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Igor, keep meaning to tell you the El Molino I started last year is now about 4' tall and pushing out all sorts of figs.  Have a while to go till they are ripe but really looking forward to tasting them.

Smyfigs

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My El Molino has one very nice fig. I cant wait to taste it! Thanks, Igor.

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I've managed to eat several El Molinos from the tree rooted from cuttings last year, now 5' tall. Delicious! Sweet, berry flavored with a nice acid balance. They're sweeter than my Baba raspberries and not quite as acid. In appearance they looked the same as a Lebanese Red that was ripe, but the LR was a touch dryer and sweeter with no acid at all.
All my figs in the front yard are getting cooked in the heat wave. It's sometimes hard to tell if they're ripe or if they're burnt.

VeryNew2Figs

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I kind of love the taste of raspberries.  If anyone has cuttings available, now or later, please p.m. me.

Thanks

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Igor, here is a pic of mine that I started on January 14, 2016. The tallest one on
the left is 3 feet 5 inches. No figlets as of yet. Glad to hear it doesnt need
the wasp. We will see next year about the fruit. Thanks again for the cuttings.

Mike (newnandawg)

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