Well although the workshop is not completely cleaned up I did enough to find all the tools I needed for this project. So here what it looks like. Yes Dennis there are pictures.
The lid before starting.
After cutting. Pots are 2 inch so I used smaller hole cutter on drill. This is the mister before turning on Mister actually working
The pots before and after they were cut Not the best picture but this is the cutting in the pot. The foam had to be cut for the fat cuttings. Starting to fill the box Will update but it is almost full. 7 holes left and I still have about 60 cutting to go but we will see how this goes first.
Happy growing all.
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Very Cool! I love the way the lid is already laid out in a grid -- perfect size and spacing for cutting the holes, and it still keeps it's strength. Where'd you get that? ( It looks like it is built to last.) I had been thinking about trying to rig one up with an ultrasonic humidifier to generate mist, but your mister nozzle is much simpler. Which one did you use. (Forgive me if you've discussed this already in another thread....I've been away from the forum for about a week and I may have missed it.) Strong work! Jim
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Jim, The mister is an ultra sonic mister from ebay. The lid was from Dennis's post. It is available at Lowes and I believe Costco. Lowes has them on sale for about $10 but normally $13 and Costco always has them at ~$10 or at least that has been what I have been told. The container are very sturdy too so I think they will last. If the mister does work then I can always switch to the sprayer type mister.
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Looks great, I really need to get to work on mine. I have everything I need except pump.
Thank you
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Sharon, that's an interesting looking rooting device.
Can't wait to see the results. Exciting :)
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Here is the fogger I chose. Little more expensive but I decided it might be worth it. Just make sure that if you buy one it includes the transducer not just the headds.
So why the fogger over misting heads with a cycle timer?
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Which humidity is inside the fogger? 70%, 80, 90, 99%. Which temperatur?
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For me the fogger was easier. I may try a misting head as long as I don't have to make those pipe things, tap holes to insert misting heads ect ect. I have a misting head that I might try but I think it will not wet all the cuttings uniformally. Might need a few and I will have to find them. When the fogger is running the bottom is likely 99% but haven't measured. I plan on putting it on a timer later today and will start playing with the time. Right now it is likely to be about 65 F in the lower chamber but I plan on moving it to a warmer location. Those folks with the bucket systems might want to try a fogger if they are finding that they are running to warm. I think I might add a bottom valve to make water changing easier too. We shall see.
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Makes sense to me. I'm comfortable with plumbing, drill and tap so the multiple misting head idea works well for me. I know the pump heat is an issue for some people, I have a plan for that, I'll share it once I verify.
Thank you Sharon
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You can use an aquarium heater if you want the cuttings warmer. They're very inexpensive.
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Defiantly interested to see the results of this.
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That looks so cool. Looks like my nebulizer would work grate for a mister. Its my machine i use for my
allergies. It makes a mist like that. Looks like smoke.
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Good luck Sharon. I really enjoy these threads that test new propagation methods and look forward to the updates as time goes on. Very interesting stuff. Rock On
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I'm building the exact same thing but using a water pump instead. Good luck!
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Ha Ha Ha -- I'm laughing at myself. I had "plans" to take apart an old ultrasonic humidifier to see if I could rig it up to sit in a puddle of water rather than having water fed to it from a holding tank. Following the link that Sharon sent shows me that the "hydroponics" community has already solved this problem in spades! I guess I should have known, but it simply never occurred to me to look. Hmmm, should I spend hours rigging something up (and addressing all the safety issues to keep from electrocuting myself)? Or should I cave in and consider dropping $10-$30 for a finished product?!!?!? Jim
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That's ok. I almost did something similar but had seen the mister at a reptile show so I knew it was out there. I just want to try this since I'm doing a lot of cuttings this year.
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Sharon, were those neoprene inserts sold with those net pots? The net pots I've seen are designed to be used with things such as rock wool and/or with a plastic top so I'm wondering if the neoprene inserts fit okay as long as they are the same diameter. I have a small cloner with the neoprene inserts with no net pots needed but the lids on those tubs are probably too thin to grasp onto the inserts. Also, I'm wondering if the net pots might need to be broken to get the rooted cutting out if the roots really take off. Just curious about these considerations. I think the idea of using a fogger is great.
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Thanks Sharon! I love the pictures! Now, I understand how the mister works. You have the exact same Commando tub that I used to make my cloner. I highly recommend removing those long pieces of plastic from the insert holder. Why? Because when the cutting roots, they will wrap around the plastic and will be a pain to separate without breaking the roots. Here are a few more pics that I forgot to post. I hope they post. This forum use to have a problem loading pictures.
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Really great! Thanks for all the pictures and details. Looking forward to updates!
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So to confirm. These are two different set ups? One with the mister/sonicator and the other with a pump and spray nozzles. Is this correct?
Edited: Scary to Spray! There not scary at all.
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Yes, mine sprays water on the bottom of the cuttings. Sharon's is a mister. Both seem to be working for both.
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Well we will see if mine works as well as yours. I started with some moldy cuttings like your first trial but some are not (moldy and old). You know as soon as I see a root I'll be posting.
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I built one of these too; just waiting on my cuttings from Davis. The net pots provide a seat for the inserts. The lid is too thin to provide adequate support for the insert. Everything below the seat should be cut away. I haven't decided on a watering method.
My cuttings didn't root after about a month in the coffee can bubbler, but all rooted as soon as I potted them (see 3 large cuttings in 5" peat pots over coffee can lids for watering from the bottom). That's also jujube/ hong zao and chickasaw plum, both from seed.
Brown on one leaf was when I was out of town a week and had to rely on someone else to water them.
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OK. I put the figs in over last weekend. Still no roots. I know because I check twice a day. Oh well at least I don't have to dig them up to check.
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Sharon, I recommend installing a web cam inside the cloning chamber so you can check on them hourly, including while you're away from home. ;-) Cheers, Jim
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That would be super! What a great idea. It will have to be water proof...Time laspe
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Oddly, the tubs at Costco sold here have a different lid, only room for 27 cuttings instead of 35. Cost was $8.69. My fogger arrives today! :) I'll probably add an opaque tub over the top like Gloria uses to increase humidity so cuttings don't dry out.
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Yes hoping to add the same. I think opening one of the holes may improve the humidity. The misting is a little uneven so I'm curious to see if the drier cutting do as well or better than the wetter ones. If wetter ones do better than some design changes may be needed. I can.t wait until something happen. May also add a heater in bottom as room is colder than I want and the thermometer to see what actual temperature is.
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Sharon, Does that particular humidifier you bought float? It is hard to tell if it is a weighted base or if it is a floating base. Thanks, Jim
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It is weighted but they have a float which I am not using this time.
Decided to skip building one and went with 36 clone model CloneKing on Ebay. I've got VDB and BM cuttings in it using just plain water, so lets see what happens.
Is anyone using rooting gel on their cuttings, or just going with plain water?
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I have been curious about these cloners for a while. People always show the very impressive root development that they produce.
Does anyone have any experience with the survival rate once the rooted fig cuttings are transitioned to potting mix?
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Harvey, surely you'll build more. :) I might become a dealer for them and I'd sell it even cheaper.
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Damn Bob,
I bought one. You just had make it to easy researching the lowest price.
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What have we begun.
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...I picked up 2 of the "commander" totes from Lowes this afternoon... Now I just need 70 cuttings and I'm home free ;-) Cheers, Jim
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I put a couple of cuttings in a tote with a bubbler in the bottom. And I would definitely recommend putting something on top to catch humidity because I had several that dried out on top even though the bottoms were fine. They had rooted but eventually died because of drying out. Just my two sense :)
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a lot of this depends on the health of the cutting too. My first run using my propagator was using 6 moldy Nero 600m cuttings that I got from VS. I just washed them with Dawn, let them dry and stuck them in. Seventeen days later, I had roots. Today, I have 6 healthy Nero 600m trees in 3 gal pots! Go figure!!!!!
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Wash with Dawn? OK why not I clean everything else with it.
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Dawn...yes! And get the one with anti-bacteria.....the orange color. It's just something that works for me. And the cuttings I placed in my cloner at first were moldy. Dawn didn't kill the mold it just cleaned the cuttings. By the cuttings being exposed to the outside air helped a lot.
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OK Must now get new type of Dawn. Have added the heater and cover. Cuttings are now warm, humid and better do something!
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I've added a cover that will do until I find something that fits. It is not as humid as it looks and the fish tank heater has made it toasty (about 75 -78 F in there). The room is cool so I get a lot of condensation on the walls.
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Sharon, Is that humidity in the dome just humidity that leaks up through various little cracks, or did you add a vent hole from the bottom specifically to let more humidity get to the top? I'm thinking that, either way, you may have to add a drain hole...if too much of that moisture condenses, it will want to drain to somewhere. Are you finding that the 1-head humidifier is sufficient for filling the whole tub with mist? I'm thinking it would eventually rise to the top (where the cuttings are)...but adding a small fan or something to get the air moving a little bit would help even more. ...your thoughts are appreciated... Jim
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I don't know if the guy RIMIKE I think bought his cloner from on ebay knows what he is talking about (see post 34 above ), but see what he says about humidity domes "http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-CLONE-KING-36-SITE-AEROPONIC-PLANT-CLONING-MACHINE-EZ-2-CLONE-CLONER-CLONING-/181385810770?pt=US_Hydroponics&hash=item2a3b6fd352"
I think I need one though as I just received my mister from the link Bob posted. Now i need to go out purchase one of those HUGE cakes from someplace eat it all by myself and re purpose the cake cover, so I gain a free humidity dome and 25 LBS. It's free because after thinking about I need that cake anyway
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I like the cake but you need a sheet cake so it is the right shape. I left one of the pot holder holds open to let up some mist. The condensation from 2 days is about a 1/4 teaspoon so not too worried yet. My room is on the cold side so I'll need to check internal temperature top and bottom. I'm ready for roots. I want all my cuttings to root!
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Strudeldog, Yes I bought mine from Ebay, and from that seller, two of them actually. One for me and one for my old man to play around with as well.
It's quite possible I have no idea what I'm doing or talking about, as this really is man vs. nature in it's simplest form. Plants are programmed to grow no matter what. One thing I do know, is all of this stuff has been done before so don't try to reinvent the wheel. The Medical Dope guys have more money to spend and experiment on the actual science of growing, cloning and harvesting so let them do it. I'm more than happy to jump on the "growing bandwagon" for my own needs after they have spent all the time, effort and money coming up with the next greatest thing.
The instructions that came with the clone machine say no humidity dome needed. Easy enough, as I'm sure the guy making these kits has enough experience behind using cloning machines to recommend that none are used. I'm sure he doesn't want his customers to fail, as that's a bad business model. I don't have a humidity dome on mine as I really don't think it's needed. A humidity dome will certainly prevent the cuttings from drying out, but will also provide a great home for mold. In addition, making the transfer from the cloning machine to a pot that much more of a challenge as the plants will have to be slowly acclimated to no humidity dome.
I'll take some photos of the cuttings in the clone machine and post them and people can decide for themselves on what direction to go.
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I just found that my cutting were much happier in a dome... when I pot them up they go into a tube with a dome also, right now they trees are doing well with it sitting open and no dome but at first they would go very limp without it... when I have tried rooting cutting without a cover they have not done well. I use domes when I start seeds and micro greens, just seems to get them stronger faster.
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OK, so here is an update. Cuttings of VDB and Black Madeira ( Thanks Mario ) cuttings were put in the cloner using just plain water and stuck under the T5 Grow lights on January 24th.
Here is the inside of the clone machine. Nothing special, just some 360 degree spray heads running off a small pump.
Here's whats happening underneath.
Appears to be not much, but closer inspection of the Black Madeira I've got the beginning of roots!!!
Looks like the VDB are starting to form roots as well.
So that's 6 days sitting under a T5 400Watt growl light that's on 12hrs a day, and the clone machine runs 24/7 with just plain water. No cloning gel, no hormone dip, just tap water out of the faucet. Needless to say I'm beyond impressed with this method. No more rotten cuttings, wet moss, plastic bags and perlite, etc. This works system works, and works amazingly well. Build one, or buy one with all the parts ready to go, it doesn't matter as the concept is the same. I bought this one as I didn't feel like hunting around for all the parts to build one as the cost is the end was about the same.
Could the be a world record for getting a Black Madeira cutting to show roots?
OK, now who has some blueberry bush cuttings they don't need? :)
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RIMike, Nice progress! Does anyone have any comments on the pros and cons of leaving more of the cutting down in the rooting chamber? When I do rooting and pot up, I tend to try to bury extra nodes to encourage more roots to grow out of the buried portion of the cutting....and as insurance for any future cold-related die-back catastrophes. If there's more cutting down in the misting chamber, there's more liklihood of starting off with more roots over a greater section of the cutting... Jim
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I have a cloner like Mike also but think I like the fog better. Like Sharon commented on, the fog vapor wasn't uniformly distributed so I added a 12 volt waterproof fan a couple of nights ago. It's range is 6v - 12v and I'm running it at 6v and even that blows more air than is needed. The fog favor is very uniform now and I'm considering constructing a much larger unit. The main attraction to these for me is that I don't need to monitor moisture every 2-3 days like I do with the method I have been using in rooting directly in mini-treepots with ProMix HP.
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great job!!! i wish i could have one here in greece.
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Andreas,
I do not think you need one up there! You have the Nature and climate on your side, they are much more powerful! Those guys are doing some powerful magic things but they are in Rhode Island, NJ and elsewhere behind the Arctic circle :)
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Igor you are right my friend but looking at Harveys machine makes me want a new toy. you guys root year round... i cant even start yet... will do so sometime next week. i can only root cuttings outside.
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I am sure many people here would trade your “outside” for their “inside” cloning machine :) Especially when it is 0 and freezing in their garden !
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Hi Harveyc, Rooting more Panache ? :P
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Some of my figs are getting bumps too. I think they have been slow because things in the basement are cool. I noticed a few green bumps on top so added a light and little leaves are growing. I plan on taking them out as soon as the roots are about 1 inch, putting them in mix and tossing them in the greenhouse. The folks are starting seed and cutting so the propagation tables are going full blast. This keeps the humidity very high even with the heaters running. The plant normally take off as long as I keep them watered.
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Show us more pictures when you get 'real' roots. I'd love it if this works. :)
It's been a week since the last photo update. Any roots should have grown to be easier to see by now. More photos?
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[QUOTE=jdsfrance]Hi Harveyc, Rooting more Panache ? :P[/QUOTE]
Special Panache. These cuttings are from my one branch that produced some variegated leaves. :) The top bud of each cutting (plus some others) formed next to a variegated leaf. The 3 shorter cuttings are in the cloner and the 2 longer ones are in ProMix HP. Fingers crossed.
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Ok so here's an update as requested.
I've got more than just figs in here now to see how different things react. Besides the figs, holly, variegated red twig dogwood, Japanese Lilac, and some blueberry bush cuttings. That's all I could find a this time of the year to stick in here.
There doesn't appear to be anything drying out as there was some discussion about a humidity dome in previous posts. You can see some breba starting to form, which I've since knocked off.
I've changed the water earlier in the week. I don't think is a requirement, I was bored and tired of starting at 2ft of snow out every window in the house! From the looks of things, the greener cuttings seem to be reacting very well to this propagation method, more so than the older brown wood.
Here are some RDB Cuttings
White Triana cuttings here
Here's one of the Black Madeira cuttings
VDB Cuttings from older wood. You can see they are string to show signs.
So far I'm pleased. For the middle of winter, it's working just fine. I'd expect better results with warmer temps that whats happening under the grow lights in the basement. 70 degree water and 75 - 80 degree air temps and I think things would work very well. And for what it's worth, checking them 3, 4, 5 or more times a day doesn't seem to speed up root development.
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Yeah, if you want to speed up root growth you have to check them every 15 seconds. :) I see lots of lenticels and 2 things that might be roots. Maybe another photo essay next weekend? I might be mistaken but it seems the mister at the lower left isn't working and the center mister may not be working well. Best of luck with them.
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Harvey, when I tested out my setup (to be), I convinced myself I wouldn't need the fan. I originally thought I would. But if I left the lid open a crack, mist would come out the top---indicating that mist was reaching all the way to the top. And at any given moment one area might have slightly thicker mist than another...but there seemed to be enough air movement caused by the splashing of the fogger that it would all even out over time. Plus, I really didn't want to spend money on the waterproof fan ;-) Bob, I would rather spend the fan money on the waterproof web cam that I can mount inside the unit so that I could check the cuttings every 15 seconds (or more).
I did make one observation about these commander XXL tubs. The lids fit on the tubs upside down. When oriented this way, there are some parts of the lid that hang down below the inside lip of the tub. So, IF a humidity dome was needed, and if condensation became a problem, a couple of small holes could be drilled in those low sections to allow the condensate to drain back down into the tub.
Cheers, Jim
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You should cut of the flower buds from the blueberries as well. And may be you can try using aquarim water heater. You can drop it at the botom of the tank and set a good water temperature. Just a thought.
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Mike, yours looks great. If it were me, I'd add a lot more water till it touched the bottom of the manifold. More water means more power and more oxygen in the water. And don't worry if the roots get long and in to the water. Just keep doing what you're doing and everything will root. The roots will become tough, again don't worry. Nice pics!
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I just looked at my tub again and the whole "upside down" lid idea is probably not the way to go due to "lock holes" that are in the lid. When the lid is on correctly, the bulk of the lid sits lower into the tub than when it is upside down, anyway. (I should have looked at it again before posting.) I'm getting excited to try mine out. I have no hydroponics stores nearby, and I finally found a source of 2" netpots that are truly 2" and have a nice, wide lip so the pots don't fall through.
In addition to cutting off the majority of the net pot, do you guys also split the side to make it easier to get off a cutting that has grown a large root mass and has lots of leaves? Cheers, Jim
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Good observation on the blueberries. I'll do that in the next time I check them....
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I split pots to get everything in. I added a light and am trying ti warm things up a bit. Might have to get mine off the floor to keep it warmer. I was originally worried about leaking but so far no issue.
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Jim, I only added the fan after first running the fogger for a week and I noticed some cuttings were not wet on at least one side. After adding the fan, all of them are wet. Based on the value of some cuttings, the price of the fan and AC adapter were a minor consideration. I'm still thinking up a design for a much larger cloner.
My tub is elevated 4" off the floor in a room that is 73-82F (depending on where I shoot my laser thermometer). I think I want to put it up on a higher shelf so it is warmer or add an aquarium heater.
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Harvey, The proof is in the pudding -- sounds like the fan is a must have. Do you have any seedling heating mats? You could put one underneath the tub. But all-in-all, the aquarium heater is probably the way to go. They're made to be submerged in water, after all. Cheers,Jim
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I already have 4 tables 2' x 4' that are using my existing mats but I have considered buying another for a bigger cloner. Since my wife's beta died some time ago, he no longer needs the aquarium heater. :)
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Here is the most advanced cutting in my cloner after two weeks. I'm not sure what I will do, but I might just go ahead and plant it soon as the roots will soon be too large to fit through the hole since they're growing straight out like that.
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Now *that's* what I'm talking about! Harvey, is your mist maker at the bottom or floating? I wonder if the floating mister will get cuttings more uniformly wet as the floating mister moves around. Or is this a pump with sprayers? Thanks.
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This is the nebulizer type and it's not floating. This tank is too dang heavy as it is with just 2" of water in it for me to dump once a week to change water. I don't think floating would make much difference on coverage as I'm pretty sure it would still stay in the same spot most of the time. I'm considering a larger unit with the nebulizer and fan in a separate tank and blowing fog in via ducts so that I could dump that separate tank without even touching plants. In that case the tank would probably be narrow and deep and I'd use the float that came with the nebulizer.
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For all those following along, here's a weekly update. First off, it's snowing, again. This sucks just like it did last weekend, the weekend before that, and so on. I'm debating adding bleach to my coffee and just end the suffering!
Now, back to the clones. A few things have leafed out, White Triana, and the variegated dog wood cuttings I took just to see what would happen.
Lots of stuff getting ready to send out some roots. Everything seems to be progressing except for the blueberry cuttings I have in there. They seem to just be sitting there.
Heres the bottom of one of the variegated dogwoods. A small root is starting to show itself. Japanese Lilac in the back corner is about ready to root as well. Everything is progressing along, and I'd expect to start seeing some real roots like Harvey showed in the next week.
Under the light, and pretty much the only things green and growing anywhere in New England right now!
Back Left - CDN Back Right - Petit Negri Middle Left- VDB Orphan Middle Center - Dauphine Middle Right - CDG Front Left - VDB Orphan Front Right - Bryant Dark Far Right - Cityline Rio Hydrangea
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Ok How does a fig go from having no roots to having one about an 1" long overnight?
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...how do you say "I think I can, I think I can, I think I can..." in Figese? Jim
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Here's an update on cuttings in my fog cloner. Cuttings have been put in there at various times with the ones with the largest roots started 4 weeks ago on 1/24. Maybe time for potting up the largest one?
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Harvey, Are you hoping to get the roots out totally undamaged? I think Sharon and Gloria were saying they left theirs in longer and the roots hardened off and became more pliable than typical roots on cuttings...
I've got my bins and mister, and my netcups and collars are in the mail, so I'm almost ready to pull the trigger on this, too. (But I keep reading good things about rooting in coco coir, so I'm second guessing myself...) Jim
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Jim, being the investigative kind of guy I am, I've already pulled these cuttings up before just to see how they would work out. No damage at all with the biggest problem being getting them back in. I'll probably wait, but am anxious to get the potted up.
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Nice!
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Thanks for starting this thread Sharon, I've really enjoyed everyones pictures and progress. Harvey, Looks really nice, glad your rat didn't get to those babies
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Coop, I ended up moving all of my figs out into the greenhouse until the rat issue got "resolved" except for these in the cloner. I have a tub covering them but I still kept watching just to see if the rat might be gnawing a hole to get to them! :)
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Amazing roots Harvey. What kind of fogger do you have (size, number of discs)? I tested a single disc for an hour but the output was very low.
I ordered a set of rotating nozzles that are adjustable from 1 to 25 gph and an adjustable 50 gph pump to try. About $20 shipped.
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Been using the cloner since the fall. Love it.
Here's 6 weeks of root development from last batch:
And this is the new batch:
I'm set up with misters. How does the fogger work? Can someone post more pics of it?
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Hi Danny
Very nice roots and a very nice rig. Did you make that yourself? If so, you should be very proud of your nice work. Any discoveries when building it?
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Thanks, Coop.
It was pretty straightforward. Followed what Dennis did and whatever tutorials were on YouTube. Didn't want to change anything so nothing new to report.
I was thinking about building a second one but I like the fogger idea.
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Dennis gave me the green light to pot up that cutting with the most advanced roots. Think I'll wait until daylight. :)
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How's the top growth on the one's you're going to pot up?
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I potted up one recently that had roots over a foot long, it had no shock at all in is growing like a weed. I have only lost one to shock so far and that one I just should have waited but I got impatient.
This first one is the ones that are no longer in the humility bin These are some I have just started and few that you can see have been in a long time, I am running out of room outside of the bubbler so I am working on making room before I pot some of these up, but it seems they are not hurt by staying in longer. This is the first cloner I got, the other I made. So far I am very happy with the results I have had.
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Here is my first cloner plant being potted up, 30 days after being started (others haven't done as well, this one is the best).
This one was started at the same time, Slower to develop roots and wants to produce figs instead of leaves! I removed the fruit immediately after taking photo.
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Now Harvey, be honest....how hard was it to process those cuttings? And where there any gnats? I'm glad I stepped out and tried the cloner and shared my results.
And yes, if you want, you can leave your cuttings in the cloner longer. I left some of mine in for 30 days and there was so much top growth that I could not keep the cutting vertical. The choice is yours.
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Dennis, I don't usually have much in the way of problems with fungus gnats using ProMix HP to begin with. For me, the things I like about the cloner are: 1. Don't need to water ever 2-3 days, worrying about getting moisture level exactly right. 2. I can know exactly how roots are doing. 3. I use a tub for humidity and that protected them from that dang rat!!! :)
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Great work Gloria and Harvey, Dennis, Rafael and Mike Love seeing the beautiful roots developed by these machines. I'm convinced, next year....
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Harvey - I'm thinking about building a second cloner. What type of fogger did you get? After you installed the fan did you notice fog leaking out from anywhere? Any nutrients?
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Forget next year... Do it now Coop :)
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Hi all,
Sorry to take so long to update. Lots of things going on with the new house. Mine cuttings are starting to root despite the cooler temperature. A Nigara Black that was a gift from Marius has started rooting. The one in front was from Driveway farm and is a Scott's Black. As you can see the roots are long and the tips are in the water. I should have turned off the mister but I am too lazy to take another photo. Many thanks to Dennis for his first post on using cloners.
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One other thing. I like this method because I don't have to keep digging up my figs every day to see if I have roots yet. My plants are not as far along but I think that is because I am growing much colder (~60 F)
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[QUOTE=nycfig]Harvey - I'm thinking about building a second cloner. What type of fogger did you get? After you installed the fan did you notice fog leaking out from anywhere? Any nutrients?[/QUOTE]
Danny, I got the fogger that Sharon had posted a link to earlier but it can be found cheaper on eBay. I bought the fan and AC adapter on eBay and Amazon and some fog does definitely escape and I need to add water some of the time but not really a big deal. In fact, Gloria had told me to change water about every week and add new hydrogen peroxide and Clonex nutrient solution (1 teaspoon each) but I've skipped dumping out any old water and just add the new stuff and that seems okay.
If I build a larger cloner I would make the lid tighter-fitting and have the water reservoir separate and run it to the cloning unit by a 2" hose with a return hose and that would make it easier to dump out water. I'm thinking of buying a storage tub that is made for going under a bed (i.e., 24" x 40" or so) and building a plywood box to go under it and coating that with fiberglass resin. Still not there as far as making a decision yet.