I thought I saw a thread about this a few days ago but just can't seem to find it.  Possibly my mind is playing tricks on me!  They seem *really* similar to me, do we know if they're the same?

Thanks,
-Greg

They definitely are not the same fig, the jolly tiger's leaves are variegated, some are  half white half green. I don't have pictures of mine but I'm sure someone will put some up. Panachee 's leaves are solid green and the figs look like tiny hot air balloons. I have both varieties and I'm looking forward to spring to see these tiny beauties growing.

Jolly Tiger: 


This picture is borrowed from Louis the Plant Geek.  Notice how awesome the leaves are.

They are different as stated here in thread i can attest to that firsthand in leaf , fig looks, fig taste and growth habit in my yard.  Both in family of figs called Chimera's according to writing i have read.
I talked with owner and then bought mine from his nursery that first brought this fig out and still have original paperwork as it was not cheap back then for a 6 inch dormant stick that was sent to me when purchased but i was told this ahead of time and took a chance.
Nursery closed for good.

martin,

how does the Jolly Tiger taste? i know you had it for awhile.

Bullet taste wise is nothing to brag about.
But i grow for the beautiful leaves as no other fig tree has this leaf variegation that i have seen to date.

thanks martin. i'm in process of punishing myself with Pastiliere. this thing grows like a weed. if i'm lucky, i'll work on Ischia Black also.

Thanks Pete for asking the flavor question, and Martin for the answer.  I know I've said this before.  I'm always tempted on this one, but it's so much a diva, and there can be only ONE Diva in this family!

It's not on my wish list because those that are must go through stringent requirements.  Ha!  They need to taste so good, your knees buckle!!  OR, they have that weeping quality and would look great on a deck over a pool. 

Jolly Tiger is a bit of a prima donna and is a sport and could revert back any time.  Panache is known to knock your socks off with flavor!

Just my opinion..........

Suzi

DesertDance it will only revert back if grower lets it revert back otherwise if one knows how to prune it their plant will always stay variegated.  ; )

Hey Martin!

You proved my point!  It's a Diva!  ;-)))  And you previously pointed out to Pete, the flavor is not that great.  But the Panache/Panachee... YUM!

Suzi

Thanks for the info everyone.  Posting here is so much more effective than googling!

Suzi, are you saying Panache tastes a lot better than Jolly Tiger in your experience?

[QUOTE=DesertDance]Hey Martin!

You proved my point!  It's a Diva!  ;-)))  And you previously pointed out to Pete, the flavor is not that great.  But the Panache/Panachee... YUM!

Suzi[/QUOTE]

With all repsect i have not proved your point .

With your thoughts then all conainterized fig plants are Diva's as they need to be shaped, branches pinched and roots pruned, fertilized etc.

Jolly Tiger is very simple to keep its variegation with just your thumb and forefinger.


Also said with respect - Hmm i see a trend here with some folks in California cough cough "Jon P" and there spoiled fig plants that grow in such a climate and dont see extreme temps like in the teens for extended amount of time.
Jealous no way as i can grow a Madeira Black that im sure taste just as good cause of the way i grow them and have shown pictures of the ripen figs.

All in FUN -  but Jolly Tiger is no Diva to keep its variegation just a thumb and forefinger.    ; )

Octo yes Panache is the better tasting of the 2 in my opinion as i have tasted both.
That is on my palate .

Thanks for the info Suzi & Martin.

-Greg

Martin yougrow the jolly tiger for the leave? what can you do with them beside look at them?
My jolly is only about 14" and I havent had the change to see or eat any fruit. I have had it for about 1 year now.

I'm guessing that you are attracted to your wife or husband for the looks or a painting on the wall or a picture. JT produces fairly large fruit of good quality, not great, but good. It really is something to see in full leaf, very beautiful. So it offers at least what a nice flower does with the added bonus of fruit.

[QUOTE=Ichodalot]Martin yougrow the jolly tiger for the leave? what can you do with them beside look at them?
My jolly is only about 14" and I havent had the change to see or eat any fruit. I have had it for about 1 year now.[/QUOTE]
Your tree is a mere infant at 14 inches and about 1 year old as you state , give it time.

When i bought from closed nursery it was for its eventual beauty i could careless about its fruit as its only average on my palate as im very picky about fig taste but taste is subjective and some may like it.

Hi ,I'm wondering if I should be concerned with this, from the picture of my tiger you can see the newer leaves at the bottom. They go from dark green to light green while the older leaves on top are very different , dark green and almost white. Will the newer leaves get whiter as they age or should I do something about this? Any and all help is appreciated. 

I would like to get a Jolly Tiger.
If any of you have 1 or 2 cuttings you would like to sell without using ebay, please PM me with your price.

Kyle

Rookie
nothing to be concerned about , when you see a "full size" pair of green leaves that are solid green just like on average fig tree you cut below it .

One variegated leaf and one opposite solid green leaf although is fine you do not prune those.
Its simple to keep plants variegation.

Here you can see solid green fig at solid green leaf axil and variegated fig at the variegated leaf axil.
In the end when ripened they will both turn dark .

Martin, thank you for getting back to me, I really wasn't that concerned about because the leaves are still variegated but in the back of my mind it kept nagging me. So will the newer leaves turn whiter with age or stay the lighter green? 

Those may turn a yellowish with the darker green.

Thanks Martin, Kyle, the tiger is too small to even think about cuttings.

Martin,
Do you maintain Panache the same way, i.e., cutting any pair of normal leaves or un-variegated branch?

JD, 
Panache i have is "V" shaped left main branch side is not variegated and the right main branch side is variegated -never do anything to it as they just keep growing as such.
These figs plants in the Chimera family are unusual.

Here you can see both main branches coming off 1 main trunk and the figs if you look closely.

I'm pretty sure my Jolly Tiger isn't going to make it.  :-(

The panache I got from Jon, by contrast, is thriving like a boss!

Octopuslnc can you explain what went wrong in how it died.

Essentially it died because I'm impatient.

I had cut my 1 JT cutting into 3 2-node segments and put them into soil cups with humidity domes under cfl lamps.  Of those 3 segments one went soft and died flat out, one has shown no growth but also no dying signs, and the third one had some leaves.  For whatever reason I thought it would be a good idea to tug on the one with leaves to see how strong it's roots were (stupid).  That was last night.  This morning I checked on it and all the leaves had gone limp and withered.

sorry to hear of your not so jolly experience. note to self  " dont pull on plant". just chalk it up to experience.thanks for the info.

Yep.  I put a note in my journal, "please learn your lesson!" lol

Martin,

Is there anything different fertilizing a Jolly Tiger ( less/more ) than other fig trees? 

Greg, That was an expensive lesson. First mistake in my mind was cutting the pieces.  JT can be a stubborn rooter and the pieces you had were a decent size to ensure rooting. 

Indeed, Barry.  Well I only cut one--remember I split the two I got from you with another member.  :-)

Not all hope is necessarily lost.  But it does look dismal. 

Try not to pull on it again lol. 

[QUOTE=Dave]Martin,

Is there anything different fertilizing a Jolly Tiger ( less/more ) than other fig trees? [/QUOTE]
None at all all our fig trees get the same treatment and it grows very well in our yard.

[QUOTE=Dieseler]Bullet taste wise is nothing to brag about.
But i grow for the beautiful leaves as no other fig tree has this leaf variegation that i have seen to date.



[/QUOTE] Dieseler, can you describe exactly what the jolly tiger tastes like?
thanks..
also, is it fast or slow growing?