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FMD
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Is there such a thing as a "girdle-bud graft". |
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strudeldog
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I have never done that, but I have done a patch bud, where you don't girdle the whole receiving branch, but only a square from it. The bark really needs to be in slip mode, and to remove a full girdle of the of the desired patch in good shape might be tough. The cambium contact on that would have to be on the bottom union, on the patch you have the sides and top as well. Not sure why not just lop the top of that off as you would not even want the top anymore. Above any type of graft sometimes it is good to half break above the graft/bud and bending it down leaving some of the bark intact for a period until established so the stock should give energies to the graft. I never have real good results with the patch bud but that was years ago and on pecan trees, and nut trees are hard. |
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FMD
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Thanks Phil, |
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pitangadiego
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This is essentially a bridge graft, of sorts, which is used to replace missing bark (chewed off by an animal, etc.) If done properly, it should work, but I see no reason to do it that way. You risk loosing the top portion of the tree if the graft is not successful. |
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strudeldog
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I guess I missed the point that you might want to keep the portion of the tree above the girdle. but with that girdle you are actually depending on 2 unions Top and bottom for the top to survive and you don't need to risk losing the top with the patch bud or the T or Chip buds. I am not talking specific to figs, but in general I have had better luck with either the Chip or T buds, than a patch bud. I really don't see any advantage of total girdle. |
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FMD
Registered: Posts: 1,327 |
Ok, thanks. One more question... |
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Grasa
Registered: Posts: 1,819 |
the Bud graft works great for me. but the receiving trunk needs to be strong and the surfice almost flat, so the new one (that is flat) has more contact. I tried the first one you posted, easy to remove and discard the bark, but try to prepare a new one to bring into that space! It cracks and splits, it was impossible for me, so I gave up. Maybe soaking prior to do the cuts on the grafting would work, but I have not tried. Like Harvey says..only is a failure if you don't try. |
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pitangadiego
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T-bud works when the bark is "slipping" - that is, it is easily separated from the interior wood, so that you can slip the bud in behind the bark. You want to minimize the "wood" with the bud, so that you have little or none. If the bark is not slipping, Chip-budding is a better option, |
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Boris
Registered: Posts: 117 |
The flaps do not have cambium, it suppose to be just bark. The cambium is under inserted bud, on the trunk. As Jon mentioned, during active growth the bark separates without the cambium. |
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FMD
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Thanks for everyone's input. |
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HarveyC
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The only time I've seen a photo of that ring bark graft done was when someone put back the very same bark back onto the same tree but upside down to create some dwarfing. I've never tried it myself. |
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FMD
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Eureka! I finally found it. This is what I was trying say in the first post. |
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