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TheFigster
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HELLO... CAN ANYONE HELP ME? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THESE FIGS TASTE LIKE FROM TURKEY? THEY'RE CALLED SARIZEYBEK FIG'S????
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indestructible87
Registered: Posts: 548 |
I do not know what they taste like. Are you referring to the ones listed on ebay? I would check the regulations before buying them if you wanted to get them in the US. |
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TheFigster
Registered: Posts: 197 |
YES, THE CUTTINGS ON EBAY... SO MAYBE YOU THINK THAT THEY WOULD BE STOPPED BY INSPECTORS OR SOMETHING BEFORE THEY COULD GET TO ME? |
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TheFigster
Registered: Posts: 197 |
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281200178802&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123 |
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Figaro
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http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/usda-man-shows-up-6543330 |
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indestructible87
Registered: Posts: 548 |
I was trying to find the restricted countries list I thought it was on the forum somewhere. I didn't think there were that many that weren't restricted though |
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TheFigster
Registered: Posts: 197 |
WELL, YOUR PROBABLY RIGHT.. I GUESS I'M JUST GOING TO HAVE TO ASK THE SELLER IF HE HAS ANY PROBLEMS SHIPPING FROM TURKEY TO THE UNITED STATES WITH THESE THINGS... I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT WHENEVER I GET NEW CUTTINGS FROM ANYWHERE, I USE A BLEACH/SOAP MIX WITH A TOOTHBRUSH AND GO OVER THE CUTTINGS REAL GOOD AND THEM WASH THEM OFF RIGHT AWAY REAL GOOD SO THAT THERE IS NO CHANCE FOR DISEASE OF ANY KIND TO COME FROM THE OUTSIDE OT THEM ANYWAYS.... |
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TheFigster
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SORRY ABOUT THE WAIT, BUT I HAD A TURKEY WE BOUGHT TODAY AND I HAD TO GET IT INTO THE OVEN SO IT WOULD START BAKING!!! YUMM YUMM!!! YOUNG TURKEY... HEY, AT 60CTS PER LB YOU CAN'T BEAT THAT ANYWHERE RIGHT NOW... AND THAT WAS AT WAL-MART... |
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TheFigster
Registered: Posts: 197 |
ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP LOOKING FOR THAT RESTRICTIONS LIST TRAVIS? |
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indestructible87
Registered: Posts: 548 |
Nah. |
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TheFigster
Registered: Posts: 197 |
I JUST ASKED THE GUY IF HE'S HAD ANY TROUBLE SO I SHOULD GET SOME KIND OF ANSWER OUT OF HIM... THANKS FOR THE IMPUT TRAVIS... |
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RawGreens
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OMG not trying to be rude but please turn off the caps button and welcome to the forum. |
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TheFigster
Registered: Posts: 197 |
I use it because i have diabetes and i'm old and it's hard to see.. sorry.. and thanks for the welcoming!! |
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TheFigster
Registered: Posts: 197 |
[QUOTE=Figaro]http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/usda-man-shows-up-6543330[/QUOTE] VICSTER |
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HarveyC
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APHIS (USDA) emailed me the regs that went into effect last May. You can import from Canada and, with some conditions, may be able to import from Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Guatemala, Mexico, Thailand and may be able to import from China, Netherlands, Taiwan if cuttings are coming from a beetle-free area. But all other countries are prohibited. And you must have an import permit to legally import cuttings. |
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TheFigster
Registered: Posts: 197 |
[QUOTE=HarveyC]APHIS (USDA) emailed me the regs that went into effect last May. You can import from Canada and, with some conditions, may be able to import from Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Guatemala, Mexico, Thailand and may be able to import from China, Netherlands, Taiwan if cuttings are coming from a beetle-free area. But all other countries are prohibited. And you must have an import permit to legally import cuttings. |
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gorgi
Registered: Posts: 2,864 |
There is plenty of very good proven fig cultivars available right in good old USA for all, all, ALL of us here... |
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TheFigster
Registered: Posts: 197 |
[QUOTE=HarveyC]APHIS (USDA) emailed me the regs that went into effect last May. You can import from Canada and, with some conditions, may be able to import from Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Guatemala, Mexico, Thailand and may be able to import from China, Netherlands, Taiwan if cuttings are coming from a beetle-free area. But all other countries are prohibited. And you must have an import permit to legally import cuttings. |
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MariannaMiller
Registered: Posts: 261 |
Someone has an ad on E-bay for this variety and the shipping location was either Maryland or Jersey. Have been giving this some thought but do not know whether the source is truly domestic or not.They have 8 or 9 cuttings still available. Debating whether to tempt fate or not. |
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TheFigster
Registered: Posts: 197 |
[QUOTE=MariannaMiller]Someone has an ad on E-bay for this variety and the shipping location was either Maryland or Jersey. Have been giving this some thought but do not know whether the source is truly domestic or not.They have 8 or 9 cuttings still available. Debating whether to tempt fate or not.[/QUOTE] |
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gorgi
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>>> APHIS is monitoring the transactions from international eBay sellers. |
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MariannaMiller
Registered: Posts: 261 |
In January, put a message up on F4F indicating that you are interested in this cultivar. Perhaps someone will have a cutting or two that they would be willing to sell. Last spring I was able to get a cutting but unfortunately due to lack of enough experience rooting figs, I lost it. Hoping to obtain more cuttings in the future and taking another go at getting them to grow in this area. Think from what I have been told, they should be hardy here or at least in zone 8 where I have a place to park a couple of fig trees. |
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Dieseler
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Vic - you mention your eyesight and reason you type in caps. |
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MariannaMiller
Registered: Posts: 261 |
Vic, here is the listing |
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TheFigster
Registered: Posts: 197 |
[QUOTE=MariannaMiller]Vic, here is the listing |
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TheFigster
Registered: Posts: 197 |
[QUOTE=MariannaMiller]In January, put a message up on F4F indicating that you are interested in this cultivar. Perhaps someone will have a cutting or two that they would be willing to sell. Last spring I was able to get a cutting but unfortunately due to lack of enough experience rooting figs, I lost it. Hoping to obtain more cuttings in the future and taking another go at getting them to grow in this area. Think from what I have been told, they should be hardy here or at least in zone 8 where I have a place to park a couple of fig trees.[/QUOTE] |
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MariannaMiller
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indestructible87
Registered: Posts: 548 |
Now if someone wanted to acquire cuttings from one of the restricted countries couldn't the person contact the seller and work out a deal outiside of ebay and have a better chance at not getting them confiscated? Or is all of their outgoing mail screened? |
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MariannaMiller
Registered: Posts: 261 |
there are valid reasons for having interdictions. Had we had some of these in the past we might not have had Dutch Elm Disease or some of the other blights. Many of our insect problems came from hitchhikers on imported plants. E-bay keeps copies of all correspondence between vendors and prospects. Although E-bay cancelled the order I attempted to place (naively thinking small cuttings met the stick definition and surely the vendors had the proper paperwork to ship to the US), the USDA was still notified of my attempt to order cuttings from Turkey and I received a letter pointing me to the regulations I had broken. |
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TheFigster
Registered: Posts: 197 |
[QUOTE=THEVICSTER][QUOTE=MariannaMiller] The cutting: Cuttings taken when the tree is dormant from December through February. Cuttings need to be stored in a freezer bag in the refrigerator. They need to be in a bag with a slightly damp material such as long fiber sphagnum moss or a small big of newspaper. Kept too wet, the cuttings will rot. If you have the luxury to get cuttings taken later in the winter time, just before bud break, your successes of rooting will increase. This is because the plant is starting to make fresh energy and sap and because the cutting has not be languishing in someone else's refrigerator. Improperly stored cuttings can lead to fungal issues, the number one reason for cutting failure. Figs can also be easily rooted during the growing season but that is another discussion. Okay, if you get cuttings early in the dormancy season, you will need to store them in the refrigerator for at least 4 to 6 weeks to help break the dormancy cycle. If you get cuttings later in the season, you can proceed toward rooting them. Rooting: You will find many recommended ways to do this successfully. The basic principals are as follows: Soil - must be well drained. Some folks use pure perlite, and some use a 50/50 mix of coarse perlite and a high grade potting soil such as Fertilome's Ultimate Potting Mix (UPM). Others have rooted them in chopped sphagnum moss. Rooting stimulants: You don't need rooting hormone. Container - I use small clear plastic cups with multiple drainage holes in the bottom and sometime a few on the sides. Clear cups allow you to see the roots. Lighting - No direct sunlight, but a good strong diffused light is good or a grow light. Temperature - 70 to 78 degrees is good. Humidity - this can be helpful so that the stick does not dry out. I have rooted my plants in a big plastic bin with a grow light on top. Some water in the bottom helps maintain some level of humidity, but the open top allows for some air circulation, also critical to thwart fungus. Watering - another critical component. Do not over water, even though tempted. There is a bit of a delicate balance since if it dries out completely, that will also kill it. There are many methods! In the old world, they will take two or three foot cuttings and bury them in the soil an inch or two. You can also take a pile of cuttings in the fall and cover them with a large pile of leaves. Uncovered in the spring time you will find lots of roots that have formed, ready for transplanting. In regards to putting figs in the ground - once dormant, fig wood can easily take about 20 degrees F and even cooler if the plant is in deep dormancy. Some figs here in Kansas have taken about 10 degrees and survived, surprisingly. However, figs in pots are at risk since the roots might freeze at 22 degrees or lower. In the ground, roots are very protected even though the top will freeze off if temps are really cold. One more tip - when growing figs in cold climates, the key to having a reasonable crop is to protect at least a portion of the trunk of the tree during the winter. If the tree freezes to the ground, then it will spend all of its energy making branches and leaves, sending out figs late in the season that will not ripen property or in time. Mulching can be good to keep the base from freezing, but beware of voles. If you have voles in your area, they will eat up the bark and outer layer of the roots. I've learned the hard way and now set a column of at least 1/2 inch hardware cloth around the trunk (probably a 6" diameter) and set into the ground several inches to keep the chewing varmints at away. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I GUESS THAT ABOUT COVERS IT ALL... I HOPE THIS HELPS YOU TO ROOT YOUR NEW (SAME FIG KIND AS MINE TREE)>>>> WE'LL HAVE TO KEEP EACH OTHER INFORMED ABOUT THE GROWINGS... I AM GOING TOMORROW TO HOME DEPOT AND GETTING THE MIXTURE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT AS THAT'S THE SAME THING THEY SAID ON YOUTUBE.. ALSO I'M GOING TO BE GETTING A LONG CLEAR PLASTIC TUB AND PUT SOME HOLES IN ONE END OF IT SO I CAN DRAIN THE EXCESS WATER OUT. I'M ALSO GETTING A GROW LIGHT TOMORROW AND PUT MY THERMOMETER PROBE I HAVE INSIDE THE BOX TO MAKE SURE THE TEMPERATURE IS CORRECT.. HAVE TO COVER THE TUB BACK EVERYTIME TO KEEP THE HUMIDITY HIGH BUT NOT BAKE THE CUTTINGS... JUST HAVE TO WATCH THE WHOLE PROCESS DAILY... I'M GOING TO BE GOING TO CALIFORNIA NOV 19TH FOR ONE MONTH SO IF YOU DON'T HEAR FROM ME, THAT'S WHY.. MY WIFE (GOD HELP ME) WILL BE TAKING CARE OF MY CUTTINGS AND SHE'S NEVER DONE IT EITHER.. WITH GOD'S HELP AND MY WIFE'S, MY CUTTINGS SHOULD BE LOOKING PRETTY GOOD WHEN I GET BACK.. I'M SPENDING THANKSGIVING WITH MY SISTER WHO LIVES IN ANAHEIM... (SOUTHERN CA.) I'VE HEARD ALOT, BUT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK ON F4F AND ASK IF ANYONE KNOWS HOW LONG THE ROOTS NEED TO BE BEFORE I CAN PLANT THE NEW CUTTINGS.. I'M GOING TO HAVE ABOUT 6 DIFFERENT CUTTINGS THAT I'VE BOUGHT IN THE LAST 3 DAYS.. WOW.. AND AWAY WE GO!!! I MUST ADMIT I AM A FIGAHOLIC.. LOVE THOSE THINGS TO EAT RIGHT OFF THE TREE... CAN'T WAIT... I HAD A BLACK MISSION FIG TREE THAT WAS ABOUT 3/4 FT AROUND IN CA. AND ABOUT 6 FT HIGH AND HAD SO MANY FIGS ON IT I COULDN'T KEEP UP WITH THEM... MAN I WISH I WOULD'VE HAD THE HINDSIGHT THEN TO TAKE THAT TREE BEFORE I SOLD MY HOUSE THERE IN CA... I'M A CA. TRANSPLANT HERE IN TEXAS.. WELL, I'VE BENT YOUR EAR LONG ENOUGH.. MAY GOD BLESS. VIC. [/QUOTE] |
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TheFigster
Registered: Posts: 197 |
[QUOTE=indestructible87]Now if someone wanted to acquire cuttings from one of the restricted countries couldn't the person contact the seller and work out a deal outiside of ebay and have a better chance at not getting them confiscated? Or is all of their outgoing mail screened? I'm not interested in doing this I'm just curious....[/QUOTE] |
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indestructible87
Registered: Posts: 548 |
Vic, you know that there are countless varieties that are most likely as good or better as this variety, that you can get from right here in the US? But if you already bought those ones, let us Know if you ever get to root them... |
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TheFigster
Registered: Posts: 197 |
[QUOTE=indestructible87]Vic, you know that there are countless varieties that are most likely as good or better as this variety, that you can get from right here in the US? But if you already bought those ones, let us Know if you ever get to root them...[/QUOTE] |
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TheFigster
Registered: Posts: 197 |
[QUOTE=indestructible87]Vic, you know that there are countless varieties that are most likely as good or better as this variety, that you can get from right here in the US? But if you already bought those ones, let us Know if you ever get to root them...[/QUOTE] |
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indestructible87
Registered: Posts: 548 |
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/start-here-the-basics-faq-recommendations-links-6111601 |
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TheFigster
Registered: Posts: 197 |
[QUOTE=MariannaMiller]there are valid reasons for having interdictions. Had we had some of these in the past we might not have had Dutch Elm Disease or some of the other blights. Many of our insect problems came from hitchhikers on imported plants. E-bay keeps copies of all correspondence between vendors and prospects. Although E-bay cancelled the order I attempted to place (naively thinking small cuttings met the stick definition and surely the vendors had the proper paperwork to ship to the US), the USDA was still notified of my attempt to order cuttings from Turkey and I received a letter pointing me to the regulations I had broken.[/QUOTE] |
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TheFigster
Registered: Posts: 197 |
[QUOTE=indestructible87]http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/start-here-the-basics-faq-recommendations-links-6111601[/QUOTE] |
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gorgi
Registered: Posts: 2,864 |
Man! |
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TheFigster
Registered: Posts: 197 |
[QUOTE=THEVICSTER][QUOTE=THEVICSTER][QUOTE=MariannaMiller] The cutting: Cuttings taken when the tree is dormant from December through February. Cuttings need to be stored in a freezer bag in the refrigerator. They need to be in a bag with a slightly damp material such as long fiber sphagnum moss or a small big of newspaper. Kept too wet, the cuttings will rot. If you have the luxury to get cuttings taken later in the winter time, just before bud break, your successes of rooting will increase. This is because the plant is starting to make fresh energy and sap and because the cutting has not be languishing in someone else's refrigerator. Improperly stored cuttings can lead to fungal issues, the number one reason for cutting failure. Figs can also be easily rooted during the growing season but that is another discussion. Okay, if you get cuttings early in the dormancy season, you will need to store them in the refrigerator for at least 4 to 6 weeks to help break the dormancy cycle. If you get cuttings later in the season, you can proceed toward rooting them. Rooting: You will find many recommended ways to do this successfully. The basic principals are as follows: Soil - must be well drained. Some folks use pure perlite, and some use a 50/50 mix of coarse perlite and a high grade potting soil such as Fertilome's Ultimate Potting Mix (UPM). Others have rooted them in chopped sphagnum moss. Rooting stimulants: You don't need rooting hormone. Container - I use small clear plastic cups with multiple drainage holes in the bottom and sometime a few on the sides. Clear cups allow you to see the roots. Lighting - No direct sunlight, but a good strong diffused light is good or a grow light. Temperature - 70 to 78 degrees is good. Humidity - this can be helpful so that the stick does not dry out. I have rooted my plants in a big plastic bin with a grow light on top. Some water in the bottom helps maintain some level of humidity, but the open top allows for some air circulation, also critical to thwart fungus. Watering - another critical component. Do not over water, even though tempted. There is a bit of a delicate balance since if it dries out completely, that will also kill it. There are many methods! In the old world, they will take two or three foot cuttings and bury them in the soil an inch or two. You can also take a pile of cuttings in the fall and cover them with a large pile of leaves. Uncovered in the spring time you will find lots of roots that have formed, ready for transplanting. In regards to putting figs in the ground - once dormant, fig wood can easily take about 20 degrees F and even cooler if the plant is in deep dormancy. Some figs here in Kansas have taken about 10 degrees and survived, surprisingly. However, figs in pots are at risk since the roots might freeze at 22 degrees or lower. In the ground, roots are very protected even though the top will freeze off if temps are really cold. One more tip - when growing figs in cold climates, the key to having a reasonable crop is to protect at least a portion of the trunk of the tree during the winter. If the tree freezes to the ground, then it will spend all of its energy making branches and leaves, sending out figs late in the season that will not ripen property or in time. Mulching can be good to keep the base from freezing, but beware of voles. If you have voles in your area, they will eat up the bark and outer layer of the roots. I've learned the hard way and now set a column of at least 1/2 inch hardware cloth around the trunk (probably a 6" diameter) and set into the ground several inches to keep the chewing varmints at away. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I GUESS THAT ABOUT COVERS IT ALL... I HOPE THIS HELPS YOU TO ROOT YOUR NEW (SAME FIG KIND AS MINE TREE)>>>> WE'LL HAVE TO KEEP EACH OTHER INFORMED ABOUT THE GROWINGS... I AM GOING TOMORROW TO HOME DEPOT AND GETTING THE MIXTURE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT AS THAT'S THE SAME THING THEY SAID ON YOUTUBE.. ALSO I'M GOING TO BE GETTING A LONG CLEAR PLASTIC TUB AND PUT SOME HOLES IN ONE END OF IT SO I CAN DRAIN THE EXCESS WATER OUT. I'M ALSO GETTING A GROW LIGHT TOMORROW AND PUT MY THERMOMETER PROBE I HAVE INSIDE THE BOX TO MAKE SURE THE TEMPERATURE IS CORRECT.. HAVE TO COVER THE TUB BACK EVERYTIME TO KEEP THE HUMIDITY HIGH BUT NOT BAKE THE CUTTINGS... JUST HAVE TO WATCH THE WHOLE PROCESS DAILY... I'M GOING TO BE GOING TO CALIFORNIA NOV 19TH FOR ONE MONTH SO IF YOU DON'T HEAR FROM ME, THAT'S WHY.. MY WIFE (GOD HELP ME) WILL BE TAKING CARE OF MY CUTTINGS AND SHE'S NEVER DONE IT EITHER.. WITH GOD'S HELP AND MY WIFE'S, MY CUTTINGS SHOULD BE LOOKING PRETTY GOOD WHEN I GET BACK.. I'M SPENDING THANKSGIVING WITH MY SISTER WHO LIVES IN ANAHEIM... (SOUTHERN CA.) I'VE HEARD ALOT, BUT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK ON F4F AND ASK IF ANYONE KNOWS HOW LONG THE ROOTS NEED TO BE BEFORE I CAN PLANT THE NEW CUTTINGS.. I'M GOING TO HAVE ABOUT 6 DIFFERENT CUTTINGS THAT I'VE BOUGHT IN THE LAST 3 DAYS.. WOW.. AND AWAY WE GO!!! I MUST ADMIT I AM A FIGAHOLIC.. LOVE THOSE THINGS TO EAT RIGHT OFF THE TREE... CAN'T WAIT... I HAD A BLACK MISSION FIG TREE THAT WAS ABOUT 3/4 FT AROUND IN CA. AND ABOUT 6 FT HIGH AND HAD SO MANY FIGS ON IT I COULDN'T KEEP UP WITH THEM... MAN I WISH I WOULD'VE HAD THE HINDSIGHT THEN TO TAKE THAT TREE BEFORE I SOLD MY HOUSE THERE IN CA... I'M A CA. TRANSPLANT HERE IN TEXAS.. WELL, I'VE BENT YOUR EAR LONG ENOUGH.. MAY GOD BLESS. VIC. [/QUOTE][/QUOTE] REMEMBER MARIANNA, ALL THAT WAS SAID BY BYRON WHO HAS HELPED ME SO MUCH WITH INFORMATION.... JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.... VIC. |
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gorgi
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Enough of this crap! |
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gorgi
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gorgi
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bump |
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TheFigster
Registered: Posts: 197 |
[QUOTE=gorgi]Edit: |
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gorgi
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Enjoy what is best for you. |
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TheFigster
Registered: Posts: 197 |
[QUOTE=gorgi]Enjoy what is best for you.[/QUOTE] |
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TheFigster
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[QUOTE=gorgi]Enjoy what is best for you.[/QUOTE] |
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Dieseler
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Vic maybe this will help . |
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TheFigster
Registered: Posts: 197 |
[QUOTE=Dieseler]Vic maybe this will help . |
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TheFigster
Registered: Posts: 197 |
[QUOTE=THEVICSTER][QUOTE=Dieseler]Vic maybe this will help . |
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gorgi
Registered: Posts: 2,864 |
Very obviously, this guy is a newbie bogus figster ... just ignore him! |
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