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TheFigster
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Hello... I have a 5 ft tall mission fig that was from last year and it's been really cold here in Texas and one of the branches at the top is splitting open where it attaches to the tree stem. is this normal and can i fill it with anything without hurting the tree?? |
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Grasa
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I saw a huge fig orchard, where the owner puts a bamboo next to the split and secure it together as a splinter bandage, sort like a doctor fixing a broken bone, casting to secure it in place. sometimes, they heal up and you would be able to remove the big splinter. |
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DallasFigs
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How thick and long is that branch? Is it splitting due to weight? Our more of a bulging out split due to freezing? For the former, follow Grasa's suggestions for sure. As for the latter, I'm not sure. Pictures would help the gurus give you the proper advice. |
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TheFigster
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[QUOTE=DallasFigs]How thick and long is that branch? Is it splitting due to weight? Our more of a bulging out split due to freezing? For the former, follow Grasa's suggestions for sure. As for the latter, I'm not sure. Pictures would help the gurus give you the proper advice.[/QUOTE]If it wasn't for the time being 12:04 a.m. right now, I would take pictures... the branch is about 1/2 inch and the main stem next to it is also about the same. the branch is kinda like opening up right there. I will take pictures tomorrow for sure and post them.. I live in fort worth jimmy.. |
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TheFigster
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[QUOTE=Grasa]I saw a huge fig orchard, where the owner puts a bamboo next to the split and secure it together as a splinter bandage, sort like a doctor fixing a broken bone, casting to secure it in place. sometimes, they heal up and you would be able to remove the big splinter. |
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Grasa
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get another branch, a stick, a piece of wood and wrap with it, to give some support, use old socks, they make great ties for emergencies such as this. |
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Aaron4USA
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Vic, you need to wrap the splitting branch with something elastic and breathable... do you have access to medical supply store? there are types of bandaid wraps that look like white 1-3 inch wide and long , so they come in a roll form in a pack. one side is elastic fabric the other side sticky so it adders. you can wrap the entire branch where the crack is and leave it like that for a long time, by the mid spring you'll have a brand new branch all healed and fresh. |
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GeneDaniels
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[QUOTE=Aaron4USA]Vic...do you have access to medical supply store? [/QUOTE] |
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TheFigster
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[QUOTE=Aaron4USA]Vic, you need to wrap the splitting branch with something elastic and breathable... do you have access to medical supply store? there are types of bandaid wraps that look like white 1-3 inch wide and long , so they come in a roll form in a pack. one side is elastic fabric the other side sticky so it adders. you can wrap the entire branch where the crack is and leave it like that for a long time, by the mid spring you'll have a brand new branch all healed and fresh.[/QUOTE] I might be able to come up with something like that.. I have a great big z-medical kit that I used to use when my kids hurt themselves.. so wrap it with like gauze? |
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TheFigster
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[QUOTE=Grasa]get another branch, a stick, a piece of wood and wrap with it, to give some support, use old socks, they make great ties for emergencies such as this.[/QUOTE]Socks I have plenty of.. i can use that I guess for now... will have to wait till morning though as it's colder than you know what out there right now!! |
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TheFigster
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[QUOTE=TheFigster][QUOTE=Grasa]I saw a huge fig orchard, where the owner puts a bamboo next to the split and secure it together as a splinter bandage, sort like a doctor fixing a broken bone, casting to secure it in place. sometimes, they heal up and you would be able to remove the big splinter. |
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TheFigster
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[QUOTE=DallasFigs]How thick and long is that branch? Is it splitting due to weight? Our more of a bulging out split due to freezing? For the former, follow Grasa's suggestions for sure. As for the latter, I'm not sure. Pictures would help the gurus give you the proper advice.[/QUOTE]No, the split is not due to weight.. I think from getting too cold or maybe dry?? I only water it once a month in the cold weather.. I've heard that overwater in winter is the main reason tree's die.. |
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TheFigster
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I'll post some really close up pictures in the morning about 11:00 a.m. today.. |
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bullet08
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noticed my I-258 has split where the new branch came off the old wood where it rooted from. i'll just put mine in bigger container and bury it under the soil. i'm sure it will root around there in few months and it will be fine. if not, i'll be looking for I-258 cuttings agian. |
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TheFigster
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[QUOTE=TheFigster][QUOTE=Aaron4USA]Vic, you need to wrap the splitting branch with something elastic and breathable... do you have access to medical supply store? there are types of bandaid wraps that look like white 1-3 inch wide and long , so they come in a roll form in a pack. one side is elastic fabric the other side sticky so it adders. you can wrap the entire branch where the crack is and leave it like that for a long time, by the mid spring you'll have a brand new branch all healed and fresh.[/QUOTE] I might be able to come up with something like that.. I have a great big z-medical kit that I used to use when my kids hurt themselves.. so wrap it with like gauze?[/QUOTE]What do you fill the hole that is in the branch where the split is so that it will heal over???? |
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Rewton
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Figster, I hope I'm not hijacking your thread but I had something similar happen to my in-ground Kathleen's Black in November when I was wrapping it for winter. I bent one of the low branches upward to tie it close to the main trunk and it snapped at the base of the trunk, only a couple inches off the ground. In my case, there wasn't very much holding it on so I cut it off the rest of the way. My concern is that it left a large opening in the trunk close to the soil surface. Like you, I was also wondering whether I should fill this with something to keep it from being an entry-way for diseases, just pile mulch over the area, or leave it to the open air. I made the snap decision to cover it with mulch in order to protect the base of the tree from cold weather. My guess is that filling the hole with a foreign substance might cause more problems than it solves. Figs seem pretty resiliant and I would guess it will heal over in time. Has anyone had experience with this? |
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MariannaMiller
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Tractor Supply carries Vet Wrap in their horse supply area. Its a stretchy self adhesive gauze wrap for legs. Used it on a potted fig the cat decided to sleep on and broke the main trunk. Wrapped the trunk, it healed and is doing fine now. Since it stretches, it can be left in place for quite a while. Comes in colors from the unobtrusive to patterns that make a fashion statement. If you have small kids that play around the tree, a bright pattern might be a good choice to remind them that this tree needs some extra TLC while it heals. |
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james
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The split is most likely cold damage due to fluctuating temps. I see these splits every winter at crouches and along the limbs. The damage from contraction and expansion is more significant when it separates the layers of wood. This acts as a girdle which disrupts any flow of moisture/nutrients above it. The best I can offer is the tree will grow new branches from healthy wood or from the roots if the damage goes low enough. |
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Aaron4USA
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[QUOTE=TheFigster][QUOTE=TheFigster][QUOTE=Aaron4USA]Vic, you need to wrap the splitting branch with something elastic and breathable... do you have access to medical supply store? there are types of bandaid wraps that look like white 1-3 inch wide and long , so they come in a roll form in a pack. one side is elastic fabric the other side sticky so it adders. you can wrap the entire branch where the crack is and leave it like that for a long time, by the mid spring you'll have a brand new branch all healed and fresh.[/QUOTE] I might be able to come up with something like that.. I have a great big z-medical kit that I used to use when my kids hurt themselves.. so wrap it with like gauze?[/QUOTE]What do you fill the hole that is in the branch where the split is so that it will heal over????[/QUOTE]wrap it like a gauze , but not just one spot, start from the bottom and gradually go upwards. |
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Aaron4USA
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[QUOTE=Rewton]Figster, I hope I'm not hijacking your thread but I had something similar happen to my in-ground Kathleen's Black in November when I was wrapping it for winter. I bent one of the low branches upward to tie it close to the main trunk and it snapped at the base of the trunk, only a couple inches off the ground. In my case, there wasn't very much holding it on so I cut it off the rest of the way. My concern is that it left a large opening in the trunk close to the soil surface. Like you, I was also wondering whether I should fill this with something to keep it from being an entry-way for diseases, just pile mulch over the area, or leave it to the open air. I made the snap decision to cover it with mulch in order to protect the base of the tree from cold weather. My guess is that filling the hole with a foreign substance might cause more problems than it solves. Figs seem pretty resiliant and I would guess it will heal over in time. Has anyone had experience with this?[/QUOTE] Apply melted paraffin on the open wound area with brush, make sure the wax is really hot to start with very thin layer first and re aply until you have a nice whitish color and leave it uncovered. the sun eventually will make it really nice and sticky where all the sharp edges of hardwood are. |
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Aaron4USA
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[QUOTE=bullet08]noticed my I-258 has split where the new branch came off the old wood where it rooted from. i'll just put mine in bigger container and bury it under the soil. i'm sure it will root around there in few months and it will be fine. if not, i'll be looking for I-258 cuttings agian. [/QUOTE]bullet, I'd apply melted paraffin on your plant too before berrying the crack under soil to prevent fungal attack. |
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Rewton
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Thanks for the suggestion, Aaron. I'll give this a try when I unwrap my tree in early March or so. Maybe at that time I'll show a photo of what I am talking about - it as actually a small cavity that goes into the trunk a bit. So it does seem concievable that insects or fungus could be a problem. You read about cases where a homeowner wants to remove a fig tree, and cuts it down at the base, but it keeps sending up new shoots. So I don't think its a question losing the tree but just keeping it as healthy as possible. |
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mgginva
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Cut it off. If possible root it. Figs grow so fast I'd just snip. What are the chances if you wrap it up that you'll seal in a pathogen that can cause further damage. Even it it seems to heal will you be creating a weak point that could causes worse problems in the future? |
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bullet08
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if left alone, shouldn't it grow around it or heal itself? i had few that were chewed up by my puppies and they seems to have healed very nicely without any help from me. |
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bullet08
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good article. |
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TheFigster
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Thanks bullet for your link... this is exactly what I was needing... probably because my tree is so young and too much cold lately... I still am wondering though about what to fill the crack with until it gets warm??? any suggestions??? |
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mgginva
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Although I doubt this is the reason -- cicada females will split pencil sized branch ends to lay their eggs. Looking out over my back yard this year it was amazing how many branches had browned from these little critters. |
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saxonfig
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Hey figster. I'm not sure how cold it has gotten where you are but the damage does look like cracking due to freezing. I know most of the country has experienced some extra cold temps so far this winter. Your tree may do some dying back because of this. If it does, I would just wait to see where any new growth may start growing from before trimming off any dead wood. |
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TheFigster
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[QUOTE=saxonfig]Hey figster. I'm not sure how cold it has gotten where you are but the damage does look like cracking due to freezing. I know most of the country has experienced some extra cold temps so far this winter. Your tree may do some dying back because of this. If it does, I would just wait to see where any new growth may start growing from before trimming off any dead wood. |
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hoosierbanana
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I had damage like that last year and although some branches leafed out and did not have much damage the trunk showed more cracking as the season went on because the live strips of cambium in the trunk swelled. It only grew maybe 6-12" and then quickly fruited, although the friggin figs all had dry spots on the bottom because they could not get enough water through the trunk to develop correctly. I am going to prune it back to a sucker but looking back I wish that I had removed the whole trunk last spring. |
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rcantor
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I would make air layers in the Spring and leave nothing damaged on the in-ground trunk. Until then I'd cover it with something water repellant like coban/vet wrap to keep it from splitting more in the next freeze. I think packing anything in there makes splitting further more likely unless it made it impossible for water to enter. |
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TheFigster
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It's funny.. the trunk on mine doesn't show any damage what-so-ever yet!! but i've had it covered by leaves almost all winter and a thick pile of them at that... |
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TheFigster
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[QUOTE=rcantor]I would make air layers in the Spring and leave nothing damaged on the in-ground trunk. Until then I'd cover it with something water repellant like coban/vet wrap to keep it from splitting more in the next freeze. I think packing anything in there makes splitting further more likely unless it made it impossible for water to enter.[/QUOTE]I'm still waiting to see if the trunk is going to get any damage to it.. as of yet, no damage that I can see at all to it.. |
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DallasFigs
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So you have 2 splits there.. If it were me, I would following rcanters advice based on those pictures. As those branches grow and get heavier, they are bound to break due to weakness. Granted, it may be a few years till then... but... |
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rcantor
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What I mean is cut all damage off from what remains in the ground. |
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TheFigster
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[QUOTE=DallasFigs]So you have 2 splits there.. If it were me, I would following rcanters advice based on those pictures. As those branches grow and get heavier, they are bound to break due to weakness. Granted, it may be a few years till then... but... |
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TheFigster
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[QUOTE=bullet08]if left alone, shouldn't it grow around it or heal itself? i had few that were chewed up by my puppies and they seems to have healed very nicely without any help from me. [/QUOTE]I guess it's possible that it could heal itself, I guess I'll just have to wait and see what happens come spring... |
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TheFigster
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[QUOTE=bullet08]good article. |
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DallasFigs
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[QUOTE=TheFigster][QUOTE=bullet08]good article. |
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jdsfrance
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Hi TheFigster, |
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BronxFigs
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Figster: |
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bullet08
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if the issue is due to dry weather and sudden increase in water intake, solution is keeping the soil moist at all time, and not giving large amount of water when the tree is waking up. but with trees in ground. how do you do that? if the issue is freezing and thawing.. i guess you can protect the tree so it won't freeze over. |
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BronxFigs
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If this issue is in fact, weather related, i.e. expansion of juicy bark tissue, freezing, then shrinking....which opens up splits in the bark, there would be no effective way to prevent this from happening to in-ground trees in colder climates. Water at the roots cannot be controlled. Neither can the freeze/thawing cycles, and weather conditions. In ground trees are at the mercy of Mommy Nature....period. |
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bullet08
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sometimes i'm rather glad i'm going with container culture. our weather has been rather cold for our area recently. this morning it was 18 F outside. it doesn't go that low too often here. |
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Dieseler
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May be a hard pill to swallow. |
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cis4elk
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Steve, |
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Aaron4USA
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Vic I just saw your posted pics... If that's the damage you were talking about then it's nothing horrible. I thought I would see a greater split damage like all along the branch , even the hardwood split. In the pics what I see is just a retracted cambium/bark, you can just brush that area with melted paraffin and leave it alone. It will fill up within few months as the tree gets a burst of grown soon due to warming weather. Don't wrap the branch with anything. ;) |
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Aaron4USA
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[QUOTE=bullet08]if left alone, shouldn't it grow around it or heal itself? i had few that were chewed up by my puppies and they seems to have healed very nicely without any help from me. [/QUOTE]Pete you are absolutely right about it. trees heal and life goes on... covering /protecting the wound doesn't hurt either , specially, when it's cold, wet and exposed to all sort of environment. So I find paraffin being very useful when applied on open wound areas of the plants. Precaution and prevention :) |
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