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bullet08
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most of the root hormone package i have read does not suggest using on plants that will bare fruits and vegetables. however, i know lot of people are using them. |
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pino
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Oh I didn't know about this concern. |
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bullet08
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i'm not organic by any means. i dump chemical fertilizer on my figs almost every week during the spring. but i don't like using chemical bug killers and weed killers on my fig trees. usually use soap and alcohol.. weed with my hand one at a time. but root hormone is very tempting. specially those i would like to see growing quickly. so far i have been staying away from root hormone since i don't know what it would do. it's not like i'm going to go for another kid or anything.. and extra arm will come handy.. still.. |
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jdsfrance
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Hi bullet08, |
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Rewton
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Pete, it's a good question. I wear medical gloves when I am working with rooting hormone (usually dip 'n grow) and dilute it according to the instructions. I carefully dispose of the diluted product when finished. I'm not worried about eating the fruit from a tree derived from a cutting treated with rooting hormone. By then, nearly a year (or more) has passed and then tree has increased in size/mass many fold. |
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rafaelissimmo
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Dear Pete The guys in my hydroponic store tell me that Clonex is a lot healthier than Dip N' Grow (for fruits that humans will consume). That said, I still use Dip n'grow because it gives me better results. Rafael PS got the cuttings, thx |
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bullet08
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rafael, |
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rafaelissimmo
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Is that going to be your first in ground tree?? |
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bullet08
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i keep thinking about putting the trees in ground, but keep backing out of it. Paradiso Gene and Kathleen's Black will be two first. i have grown tree and few backups, so if things go wrong, i won't miss them too much. |
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cis4elk
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I have used all sorts of rooting hormones on mostly non food crop ornamentals in the past, Clonex gel was my favorite. The only edible I rooted was a bunch grape cuttings once and used some with and some without. All rooted regardless of hormone or not, but I didn't evaluate the extent of rooting. These days I strive to be completely organic for food crops, potted ornamentals get MG. It is tempting to use rooting hormone on figs, it does make things root like crazy, but like you said they don't really need it and as you quoted "you only need one" and then you can layer that one in the future. It's my understanding that whatever the diluted amount is, the hormone never entirely leaves the tree. In today's f'd up world of hormone growth/production accelerators, and endocrine disruptors being inadvertently introduced into our bodies around every corner, I feel this is one area I can control and not introduce something else into my body's chemistry. No matter what the amount. |
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pino
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Sorry not to go off topic. But for those concerned about their pets getting into the mix. |
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Dieseler
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Jon P. may know i think he's tried that stuff on his coconut to see if it would grow new hair roots. |
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bullet08
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doesn't work on the coconut, but i heard it's good for the headache. |
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Grasa
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I would hate siting in a round table with you guys... it takes me a while to get what is being said. I am not good with sarcasm...Regardless, the label says not good for food or feed, and to this date, I could not get anyone to really explain what that really means. |
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Aaron4USA
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Pete, why would you poison your food source with your own hands? This goes for every body. Keep it safe , clean and organic. |
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bullet08
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well.. rooting hormone isn't exactly poison. it's similar to naturally occurring hormone that stimulate root growth in callus of the cuttings. large number of medications that are on markets are more or less mimicking naturally occurring compounds. they all serve their purpose. question is.. how long will they stay in the plants/trees and what would be the impact to human health in long run. i'm not finding anything on that. most of things i'm reading is "i'm not sick from eating the vegetable i rooted with IBA". |
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Aaron4USA
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well, Doug, you may have an excellent point , but make sure you ask the question when you are buying your cuttings and not getting them for free. you might piss few good hearted donors ;) |
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Chivas
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I have chopped up willow branches and let them soak in water, about 1/4"-1/2" in diametre. I left them for about a week. I watered cuttings of African Daisies with it, it did more for those than those without but I didn't do a comparison with rooting hormone. I can't remember success rate of it, it's been a long time, probably 60-70% success if I had to guess. I have read before if you reduce the willow water you can get a gel that you then use as a rooting gel but never tried it. Since it is a natural product one tree or one branch will contain different amounts of hormone so it should work but just be wary of this fact when you go to try it, how effective it is I would say it's better than just water but is it only 5% better or 100% better I can't say. |
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ascpete
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Pete, Quote: EPA Fact Sheet PC-046701, Indole-3-butyric acid enhances the growth and development of food crops and ornamentals when applied to soil, cuttings, or leaves. Because it is similar in structure to naturally occurring substances and is used in tiny amounts, this plant growth regulator poses no known risks to humans or the environment. There are more harmful chemicals on a single commercially grown apple than would ever be created by using IBA based Rooting Hormone on a fig cutting. It's a naturally occurring plant hormone in some food crops (corn & potato), which aids in the production of roots... It is also metabolized days after application and has been studied extensively. Because it was originally listed as a pesticide commercially (for financial reasons), it now comes with a scary MSDS and Warnings per Regulations. I'm with Doug (SCFigFanatic), All my fig plants have Hormone : ) Quote:
Epstein, E . and Ludwig-Müller, J . 1993 . Indole-3-butyric acid in plants : occurrence, synthesis, metabolism and transport . - Physiol . Plant . 88 : 382-389., Although IBA was identified as a natural product in potato peelings by paper chromatography almost 40 years ago (Blommaert 1954), it is still referred to as a synthetic auxin (Hartmann et al. 1990) . |
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bullet08
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pete, that's good to know. one variety i'm planning to put in the ground is not rooting at all. if it's still a dud by mid feb., i might get some clonex. |
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Dieseler
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Partial excerpt from fig scion experiment i had saved with other files . |
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bullet08
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martin, thanks. good to know. IBA seems to have been used widely. |
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