Hi Fig Lovers,

My Negronne fig, the main branch have a right leaves with single lob (spade looks).... but another new sub branches raising with finger lobs... why?

Will this impact for the taste quality (crop) from main branch vs sub branches?

Thanks for your opinion..

Best regards,

Eddy

The lower five lobe ones look like Negronne.  I don't have a clue about the single lobe ones.  Is it a grafted tree?

This is a crop from main branch.


 
 
 
 
The taste is sweet, a little dry, and chewy... very nice taste compare from another variant fig.

[QUOTE=Charlie]The lower five lobe ones look like Negronne.  I don't have a clue about the single lobe ones.  Is it a grafted tree?[/QUOTE]

Hi Charlie, this fig not from grafted tree... its original tree...

Hi
Very curious looking. Negronne is famous for its finger leaves. The spade leaves look like something else.
The figs look right though.

[QUOTE=Charlie]The lower five lobe ones look like Negronne.  I don't have a clue about the single lobe ones.  Is it a grafted tree?[/QUOTE]
My tree is bigger and has all single lobed leaves except one branch that looks like a vdb. Not sure what it is for sure but has about 20 figs that are turning black but are still hard and about as big as a nickle. Peps say this happens alot with vdb. I got a 600m. that had all long finger leaves i pulled them because they were damaged from shipping. They all grew,back single lobed leaves

This happens quite often.
Vdb &. Nero 600m. I pulled leaves off my 600 because of damage and all grew back spade. Also have negronne that is a fair size that has all spade leaves and one branch with finger leaves. Will take pic in morning for a comparison. Strange how,this,happens. There is a tread on this topic on this forum somewhere lol. Richie from louisiana

[QUOTE=coop951]Hi
Very curious looking. Negronne is famous for its finger leaves. The spade leaves look like something else.
The figs look right though.[/QUOTE]

Yes, agreed with you Coop951... something unique from negronne leaves is Spade leaves.

[QUOTE=figpig_66]This happens quite often. Vdb &. Nero 600m. I pulled leaves off my 600 because of damage and all grew back spade. Also have negronne that is a fair size that has all spade leaves and one branch with finger leaves. Will take pic in morning for a comparison. Strange how,this,happens. There is a tread on this topic on this forum somewhere lol. Richie from louisiana [/QUOTE]

Hi Richie... nice, and waiting for your pict tomorrow :)

Maybe mature branch and already stable will producing single spade leaves... and new younger branches which not stable will produce five lob leaves... and need time changing to single spade leaves...

Hi Eddy,
  My Violette de Bordeaux which I think is also Negronne grew the same way as your Negronne with different leaves for a couple of years and resumed growing finger like leaves.

Figpig66
 I believe that your Nero 600M is also called Vallecalda.

Phil from Ohio

Thanks phil. Going to search for info on vallecalda

[QUOTE=Ohiofig42]Hi Eddy,
  My Violette de Bordeaux which I think is also Negronne grew the same way as your Negronne with different leaves for a couple of years and resumed growing finger like leaves.

Figpig66
 I believe that your Nero 600M is also called Vallecalda.

Phil from Ohio[/QUOTE]

Hi Phil,

Thanks for your info... what the dominan leaves from your VDB Phil.. Single lobs or 5 lobs?

Regards,

Eddy

My VDB has one branch of spade leaves and the rest with fingers.

I have a Salce the same way. The original cutting is the main growth with spade leaves for three years now, but the  suckers from the bottom of the trunk are multi-lobed. The spade-leaf growth has not fruited. The new growth with muti-lobed leaves has.

[QUOTE=Yeehova]My VDB has one branch of spade leaves and the rest with fingers.[/QUOTE]

Hi Yeehova and Musilid,

I haven't tasted it yet. I got it from Wellspring as a TC plant and it grew only finger leaves last year. I planted it outside and it died to the ground. This year it gave me two types of leaves and no figs. I am going to prune it back to a single stem and hippie for the best this year.

Negronne/Violette de Bordeaux sometimes have single lobed leaves. It is weird, but it does happen. Quite possible that next year it will have traditional lobed leaves, or it might stay like it is for 2-3 years and then change. Welcome to figs.

My Vista OL (Violette de Bordeaux) had single lov=bed leaves for about 5 years. I though I had mis-labeled it until it finally grew normal looking leaves.

Here is my tree that has same fruit on both types of branches. Just one branch has finger type leaves. Fruit is still very hard

[QUOTE=Yeehova]I haven't tasted it yet. I got it from Wellspring as a TC plant and it grew only finger leaves last year. I planted it outside and it died to the ground. This year it gave me two types of leaves and no figs. I am going to prune it back to a single stem and hippie for the best this year.[/QUOTE]

good luck Yeehova :)

[QUOTE=figpig_66]Here is my tree that has same fruit on both types of branches. Just one branch has finger type leaves. Fruit is still very hard [/QUOTE]

YES, your negrone case is absolutely identic with my negrone... 

I had tasted for crops from branch with spade leaves... its very deliciouse... now i'm waiting for the crops to be ripen from other branch with finger leaves... i will update again next :)

[QUOTE=pitangadiego]Negronne/Violette de Bordeaux sometimes have single lobed leaves. It is weird, but it does happen. Quite possible that next year it will have traditional lobed leaves, or it might stay like it is for 2-3 years and then change. Welcome to figs.

My Vista OL (Violette de Bordeaux) had single lov=bed leaves for about 5 years. I though I had mis-labeled it until it finally grew normal looking leaves.[/QUOTE]

Hi Diego,

Have u tasted the crops from both different leaves? its same quality? 

regards,

Eddy

[QUOTE=eddydarmawan][QUOTE=figpig_66]Here is my tree that has same fruit on both types of branches. Just one branch has finger type leaves. Fruit is still very hard [/QUOTE]

YES, your negrone case is absolutely identic with my negrone... 

I had tasted for crops from branch with spade leaves... its very deliciouse... now i'm waiting for the crops to be ripen from other branch with finger leaves... i will update again next :)


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I never tasted a negronne before. Looking forward to it.

some new crops shows up from branch with spade leaves 
 
some new crops shows up from branch with finger leaves 
 

not ripen yet... must waiting to make sure the taste quality is same or different from branch with spade leaves..

Negronne always show two types of leaves.
The round, mulberry style ones and the lobed ones...

Even on the Pierre Baud (Provence France) website it is mentioned.

My french Negronne

[QUOTE=Feigenbaum]My french Negronne[/QUOTE]

Yes, maybe this variant from hybrid...

Hi Eddy,
 All of my VDB limbs carry 5 lobe finger leaves now. You may get different leaf variation again when you transplant your young VDB.
Phil from Ohio 

Leaf shape doesn't affect flavor.

I have seen Negronne with 1 lobe, 3-lobed, 5 lobed, and 7 lobed leaves. The 3-lobes are very distinctive for the variety, but certainly not the only ones they grow.

[QUOTE=pitangadiego]Leaf shape doesn't affect flavor.

I have seen Negronne with 1 lobe, 3-lobed, 5 lobed, and 7 lobed leaves. The 3-lobes are very distinctive for the variety, but certainly not the only ones they grow.[/QUOTE]

Sounds good if not effect to flavor/taste.. Thanks Diego for your information :)

[QUOTE=Ohiofig42]Hi Eddy,
 All of my VDB limbs carry 5 lobe finger leaves now. You may get different leaf variation again when you transplant your young VDB.
Phil from Ohio [/QUOTE]
Hi Phil.. Yes.. VDB also identic with negrone..

Lots of interesting Negronne information here. I have one that is growing in a Bills Figs container that I bought from him. It's a real winner and has that jelly bomb flavor that I love

another my little negronne fig... half spades leaves, half 3 lobs leaves in one branch... :D

[QUOTE=coop951]Lots of interesting Negronne information here. I have one that is growing in a Bills Figs container that I bought from him. It's a real winner and has that jelly bomb flavor that I love [/QUOTE]
Agreed with you Coop :D

This is not so unusual.  One of my Negronne (aka Violette De Bordeaux) trees does this consistently.  The other one hasn't so far (over a 4 year period).  But I have an Aubique Petite tree that does this consistently... with some 7-lobed leaves, some 5-lobed leaves, occasionally 3-lobed leaves, and some "single lobed" or "entire" leaves.  That tree is consistent on a limb-by-limb basis... each limb is consistent (either 7-lobed, or 5-lobed, or single), but across the whole tree it has a variety.  Here's an older thread where I posted some pics:
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/aubique-petite-6571479?highlight=aubique+petite&pid=1280024675

Within that thread, it makes reference to another thread that had additional pictures of the same tree from the year before (2012 I think).

Good luck with your tree... Negronne is a nice variety, and so is Aubique Petite!

Regards,
Mike    central NY state, zone 5a

I have one that shows 3 lobes.

[QUOTE=MichaelTucson]This is not so unusual.  One of my Negronne (aka Violette De Bordeaux) trees does this consistently.  The other one hasn't so far (over a 4 year period).  But I have an Aubique Petite tree that does this consistently... with some 7-lobed leaves, some 5-lobed leaves, occasionally 3-lobed leaves, and some "single lobed" or "entire" leaves.  That tree is consistent on a limb-by-limb basis... each limb is consistent (either 7-lobed, or 5-lobed, or single), but across the whole tree it has a variety.  Here's an older thread where I posted some pics:
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/aubique-petite-6571479?highlight=aubique+petite&pid=1280024675

Within that thread, it makes reference to another thread that had additional pictures of the same tree from the year before (2012 I think).

Good luck with your tree... Negronne is a nice variety, and so is Aubique Petite!

Regards,
Mike    central NY state, zone 5a[/QUOTE]

Thanks Mike... seeing your experience... so many kind lob of leaves from negronne fig.. very unique... :)

[QUOTE=Speedmaster]I have one that shows 3 lobes.[/QUOTE]

Yes, same with my little negronne :)

I have a local variety that shows 3 lobs, 5 lobs, 7 lobs in the same tree.

[QUOTE=Speedmaster]I have a local variety that shows 3 lobs, 5 lobs, 7 lobs in the same tree.[/QUOTE]
Hi... speedmaster, whats the name of your local variant ??

Mine is exactly the same.  I have heard that this is very common.  Im not sure why though.

[QUOTE=Kristen]Mine is exactly the same.  I have heard that this is very common.  Im not sure why though.[/QUOTE]
seems so many member here had same case with negronne... i agreed with you :)