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figpig_66

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Here is a pic of a mavra vasilika sika. There is alot of imposter's out there .... i have seen many that dont look correct at all. So i thought i would post one of mine. Yes its from andreas. Lol

Dave

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Good looking tree Rich you're going to be very happy with it it's a good variety

danw

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Congratulations!  Be sure to let us know when it fruits!  Personally I am dying for the peloponnisiaka aspra sika.  Do you have any idea of the difference in taste between the two?

Frankallen

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[QUOTE=figpig_66]Here is a pic of a mavra vasilika sika. There is alot of imposter's out there .... i have seen many that dont look correct at all. So i thought i would post one of mine. Yes its from andreas. Lol[/QUOTE]

Hey Rich...How do you know what the "Real" one looks like?

Iowafig

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Nice tree Richie! Did you start as a cutting? If so what was your method as mine just aren't rooting at all. Thanks

brianm

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I believe there is Mavra Sika and Vasiliki Sika. Richie I would double check.

figpig_66

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I water,root my cuttings till lots of lenticels are showing then pot them up in coir from pet smart Frank. The other is actually a Stella / dalmatia. Same fig when leaves and fruit are compaired. I have the long fingered type and 4 others.

eboone

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Of course juvenile leaves like this are not a good determinate of the final appearance...

Frankallen

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[QUOTE=figpig_66]I water,root my cuttings till lots of lenticels are showing then pot them up in coir from pet smart Frank. The other is actually a Stella / dalmatia. Same fig when leaves and fruit are compaired. I have the long fingered type and 4 others. [/QUOTE]

I have both types myself!  You have 4 others?

bigbadbill

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Mavra sika is the black one. Mavra is Greek for black. I have this one from Bass. It is one of the best black figs I have-very rich.

figpig_66

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Vasilika mavra skoura vavatsika ohra tabahanosika tseligato peloponnisiaka. Think i got the words in order lol. Its all greek to me !

figpig_66

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Bill i may get to taste one this year. I keep trading or selling them off. Trying to keep one of each.

OttawanZ5

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Thought I post some previous discussion of the real Vsilika Sika:

http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/1878324/vasilika-sika-king-and-queenfig-greek

& there is somemore on the Forums ....

 
Mine has leaves with finger looking lobes and a bit elongated yellow fig (Can't add insert >1M size!?)

FiggyFrank

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There are two trees with very different leaves with the Vasilika Sika name.  One is from Belleclare Nursery, which has the long-fingered leaves and is actually Dalmatie.  The fruit is green, very large, and a syrupy red flesh.  The sweetest fig I've ever tasted.
The true Vasilika Sika has more of a rounded leaf pattern and also a green fig with red flesh.  I have never tasted this one, so I cannot comment on its flavor, but there are several topics with pictures and descriptions.  I did acquire the real one and *might* get some figs from it this year.

OttawanZ5

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Here is the insert for my Vasilika Sika:
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OttawanZ5

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Yes, Frank. The fruit in my insert looks like Dalmatie but the leaves  I am not sure.

Yes, there has been confusion about this variety.

FiggyFrank

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Here is my Dalmatie (belleclare VS)

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figpig_66

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It gets mixed up for people buying from good sellers on ebay. I bought a vasilika sika last july and it ended up have long fingers. This one i posted here is from andreas

Rewton

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It seems pretty clear by the leaf shape, growth habit, and fruit that Stella, Vasilika Sika (Belleclare) and Dalmatie are related.  But are they identical?  They may be but to my knowledge no one has presented any real evidence that is the case.  It would be interesting to know what the history of Vasilika Sika (Belleclare) fig is and how it got its name.  Perhaps they (or their source) made a mistake and they mis-named a Dalmatie.  However, since a large, highly reputable fig nursery used the Vasilika Sika name for their variety, and sold it under that name, that is what I will use as well. However, I do now add the (Belleclare) suffix to distinguish it from other figs named Vasilika Sika.  It seems a little harsh to say that this variety is an imposter since that name for the Belleclare variety is pretty firmly entrenched here in the U.S.  On the other hand if you are Greek and grew up eating a fig called Vasilika Sika which is clearly different from the Belleclare fig then I get why you might be a little put off by American fig naming habits!  Richie, it sounds like yours has a more direct Greek connection.  There is also one found in the U.S. by Herman2 which I am growing.  There are other examples of this, of course, such as the Sucrette (UCD) and the Sucrette (MP) which seem to be two different figs.  Then there are the different Paradiso varieties. Yes, fig naming is a tricky business!

figpig_66

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Think if people are going to sell beleclare vasilika sika.... the should use the suffix. Thats really what this post is for. Not that i am upset with my first purchase but i was expecting the greek one.

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Yes, I agree and now do use the Belleclare suffix to reduce confusion.  However, it was only relatively recently recently that in the U.S. there are figs other than the Belleclare one in circulation that are called V.S.  I was thinking that Dalmatie is actually a Greek fig too.  It seems likely that the Belleclare fig originates from Greece.  As it is a green fig from Greece you can imagine how the confusion arose. For what it is worth mine came from Gene Hosey and here is his description.  Note that DiPaola was one of the owners of the Belleclare nursery.

VasilikaΒασιλικάGreeceGreenBlood red to violetBiferaBears a large pear shaped fig; according to DiPaola, this fig variety goes back 2000 years. Results of some online sleuthing indicate that this variety and Markopo¡¡ì²lou Black are produced for fresh consumption in southern Attica and in the island prefectures of Cyclades, Dodekanisou and Crete

Smyfigs

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Rich, congrats on this fig!! I tried buying it several times but got bid out...way over my budget!

pino

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Does Vasilika Sika (Belleclare) have a tendency to split?
Also can someone describe the taste?
Thanks

figpig_66

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Pino i got my beleclare vs in july and in the greenhouse it has been a super fast grower but haven't had fruit. It may produce in the greenhouse as my cddg and black bethlehem has along with some others. FiggyFrank in this post gives his review of it. Richie

pino

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Thanks Richie!
I see Frank's post now and it does describe my Dalmatie as well! 
This Dalmatie does take a few years to start producing figs.  But you won't be disappointed.
The figs on mine did split one year when I had it in a greenhouse. 
In the open I haven't had a problem with splitting even in heavy rain.
Also what I really like about this fig is that it continues to ripen nice figs even in cool temps and shade.

figpig_66

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Good to have a tree tgat can ripen figs when it fets cool unlike many of mine that just stay green and hard

Charlie

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Richie this is the leaf of the air layer I took from the VS I sent you, growing indoors in the sand. The plant is about 4 ft tall now.  Leaves are huge. Yours was a survivor of the single node experiment and Gloria has the other.  The original cutting came from Hershell.  I don't know where he got it. 

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brianm

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I also have one from Hershell btw.

figpig_66

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Its huge. And charlie its woke up and growing so is the others,too. So your saying all of this came from a one node cutting. Wow.

Charlie

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[QUOTE=figpig_66]Its huge. And charlie its woke up and growing so is the others,too. So your saying all of this came from a one node cutting. Wow. [/QUOTE]

Yours was a one node and yes.  It grew to the size you got and air layered it in August, removed in October and brought it inside.

figpig_66

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Awsome one node. And people worry about at least 3 nodes lol. Thanks charlie. Cant wait to eat one. You have any fruit pics ?

Charlie

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[QUOTE=figpig_66]Awsome one node. And people worry about at least 3 nodes lol. Thanks charlie. Cant wait to eat one. You have any fruit pics ? [/QUOTE]

Not yet.  Bet it flowers this year.

figpig_66

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The Conadria you gave me has a baby fig on it already

figpig_66

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Frank. That looks really good. I bought mine in july and its growing really fast. Hope i get a fig this year. People that dont kniw about figs that love growing fruit are missing out.

Frankallen

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Hey Rich, how many  different type Vasilika Sikas do you have?

figpig_66

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Three. Also have other greeks too and one day i will get to eat one. ;)

Frankallen

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Rich, I have got to eat "Green Greek" and it is Outstanding! Good Luck with yours! : )

figpig_66

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Thanks frank. My problem is tradi g my good stuff for different good stuff i need to at least wait till they fruit.