Hello F4F members.  I have finally gotten back to San Diego to my friend's fathers Point Loma fig. The gardener who planted this fig is an elder now and does not remember anything about it.  My friend thinks it is at least 20-30 years old.  It is a great big healthy tree on a hill covered in figlets.  We found a few Brebas, ate two.  I was surprised when the bright green fig had a purple center.  The Figs were probably a few days early, but still very sweet and good.  I am headed back to AZ tomorrow and the family would love to know what kind of Fig this is.  Looking forward to hearing your opinion as to the variety.   Thank you so much.  Jodi

Jodi,

Have you any idea of where this fig originates from ?

It seems very close to our Lampa Parda (*) producing very large, early brebas, some going beyond the 200 gr mark, and a prolific parthenocarpic  main crop

The fruit skin is glossy green with yellow/brownish shades
The pulp is just as you see on the picture, with that undefined violet rim
Hope this may be of help to you
Francisco
Portugal
(*) - it may be known locally by other names like 'lampa branca' 'lampa burra', etc..

 

 

Oh yes that is it for sure Francisco.  The tree is covered in main crop figs and a dozen + large brebas.  Seems there are quite a few Portuguese Figs happily growing here in Point Loma.  Is there anything else you know about this fig?  Cold hardiness, rooting, etc.?  I have total access to this tree for airlayers over the summer and cuttings in the fall/winter.  I know the family will be happy to see their father's fig shared with fellow fig lovers.  And Franco I have to ask about the similarity in the name "Lampa Parda" and your avatar of "Lampo"? Does "Lampo/Lampa" translate as "Fig"?  Thanks again for so quickly and accurately identifying this fig.  There is a huge second tree with purple figs that has no Brebas that I will post pics on when we have ripe figs to identify.  It will be interesting to hear what that one is too.  Happy figging, Jodi

OK - Nice to hear that you agree .. we are talking of a very similar fig most probably the same cultivar.
Between the wars there was an important flow of people migrating from the portuguese archipelagos of Azores and Madeira to that area of California, the majority being fishermen. They may have taken fig sticks of their best home varieties to make them grow in their new land... It seems this was also how 'figo Preto' arrived there and became later - Black Madeira. - Apparently in Point Loma as well.

I do not think 'Lampa Parda' to be much cold hardy. Its native grounds are coastal Mediterranean

The word lampo means 'spring fig'  or breba

- fig in portuguese is 'figo'

Now I am curious about that --- ' huge second tree with purple figs'   you mentioned

Francisco
Portugal

I have a fig from Pt Loma too. Brought there from Portugal. Craven's Craving an unknown offered last year on f4f. My cutting just rooted, but it grew figs right from the get go! I should probably remove them. So I'm happy to have one from Portugal, whatever it is! Thanks padsfan, and thanks all for sharing info on these Portuguese cultivars.  All seem like winners!  I also like the Lebanese and Italian figs as many work here. I wish I had room for more figs! I want to weed through the ones i have and move on from there.

[QUOTE=lampo]OK - Nice to hear that you agree .. we are talking of a very similar fig most probably the same cultivar.
Between the wars there was an important flow of people migrating from the portuguese archipelagos of Azores and Madeira to that area of California, the majority being fishermen. They may have taken fig sticks of their best home varieties to make them grow in their new land... It seems this was also how 'figo Preto' arrived there and became later - Black Madeira. - Apparently in Point Loma as well.

I do not think 'Lampa Parda' to be much cold hardy. Its native grounds are coastal Mediterranean

The word lampo means 'spring fig'  or breba

- fig in portuguese is 'figo'

Now I am curious about that --- ' huge second tree with purple figs'   you mentioned

Francisco
Portugal[/QUOTE]

Thx Francisco. These green and purple Brebas are beautiful, flavorful and the tree is so healthy, despite some neglect in the last few years. The companion tree is as large and The family says is a purple fig. It does not have any Brebas that I can see now but there are hundreds of figlets. I will keep you posted when it ripens Figs with a post and photos. Thx again for the ID. I am excited. Best, Jodi

[QUOTE=Jodi] Thx Francisco. These green and purple Brebas are beautiful, flavorful and the tree is so healthy, despite some neglect in the last few years. The companion tree is as large and The family says is a purple fig. It does not have any Brebas that I can see now but there are hundreds of figlets. I will keep you posted when it ripens Figs with a post and photos. Thx again for the ID. I am excited. Best, Jodi [/QUOTE]

Thank you Jodi
I look forward to get your news on this UNK purple
On those remote times, islanders did grow in their native plots delicious fruit, one of them being a popular, delicious dark/purple  fig as you may see on the attached pictures..
Your UNK could well be this one ??


 
 

 

 
cheers
Francisco
Portugal

I might faint if it is the beauty in your picture Francisco! That is a beautiful purple Fig. Do you know the name of this one also? I'll post a picture of a ripe Fig as soon as we have one. Looking forward, Jodi

Lampo, does both of those fig are common fig?

[QUOTE=Jodi]I might faint if it is the beauty in your picture Francisco! That is a beautiful purple Fig. Do you know the name of this one also? I'll post a picture of a ripe Fig as soon as we have one. Looking forward, Jodi [/QUOTE]

Thank you Jodi.
The name of the fig shown on the pictures is Violeta , as it's currently grown in Portugal
Back in time settlers took it to the Archipelagos of Azores, Madeira and the Canaries.
Think it is now extinct in the Azores -
Still grown in Madeira under the name of Preto or 'figo Preto'
Taken by immigrants from Madeira IMO, sometime during the XX century, it got its first roots in Point Loma and was re-baptized - Black Madeira .

Francisco
Portugal

[QUOTE=newbie]Lampo, does both of those fig are common fig?

[/QUOTE]

Yes, both varieties are of the Common type

Francisco
Portugal

Wow Francisco that would be really cool.  I have returned to Arizona, so I can not answer any of these questions.  I might be back in Point Loma in July.  I will keep you posted.  Thank you again for sharing your knowledge.  Happy figging, Jodi

Jodi, what a cool story! Glad you were able to come out here. Of course, if your fig is a Blk Madera, wow!! Hey, I am not far and can help prune in the fall :-D! Lol...keep us posted!

[QUOTE=lampo]

Yes, both varieties are of the Common type

Francisco
Portugal[/QUOTE]

Thanks. It has vary unique flesh. Wonder how it taste. Look very interesting.

Thanks everyone for the comments here on the Point Lomas trees of my friend's father.  I am excited to see what the purple tree is.  And yes to help with the pruning of the tree Meg in the winter.  I will try to get some airlayers started this summer but that is a new learning curve for me also.  So much to learn.  Hope that all your figgy dreams are coming true this summer.  Best, Jodi

Air layers will be ideal! What a great find! Cheers!

Hi Jodi,
Start the airlayers now :)

[QUOTE=jdsfrance]Hi Jodi,
Start the airlayers now :)[/QUOTE]
Oh that would be splendid! And the trees are in Point Loma and I am in AZ. Hoping to get back over there in July to learn the air layer process. ;-)

Getting back to Pt. Loma in July are you going to see the mother tree? Shares picture if you can would love to see it.

[QUOTE=MStanleyross]Getting back to Pt. Loma in July are you going to see the mother tree? Shares picture if you can would love to see it.[/QUOTE]
There are actually two established very large trees. The green I posted pics of and a purple that did not have ripe Figs yet. I'm excited to work with these trees. I'll keep you all posted. Happy figging! Jodi

Bump....

Hi Jodi... Any recent updates on your Point Loma's?

Thanks,
Tony

Hi Tony.  Yes I did get back to work with these trees.  The one that Lampo identified as a Lampa Parda is very vigorous and we did a number of airlayers successfully on it.  All spoken for by the family.  I did get a number of cuttings off the tree and am happy to share them with members.  Please PM me if you are interested.  I hope that all of your trees are cozy for the winter and that 2017 will bless us with an abundance of happy, plump and diverse figs.  Warmly, Jodi

[QUOTE=Jodi] happy to share them with members. [/QUOTE]

Fig people rock

Hi Jodi...,

Yes, my figs are all put to bed for the winter.... it's snowing outside right now and thoughts of the coming season are already keeping me warm... meanwhile cutting rooting season has started and that will surely provide loads of enjoyment over the coming months....

Best wishes to you and yours as well for a healthy, happy and prosperous New Year!

Cheers,
T

Hi everyone I just wanted to make sure that you are looking at the right fig here.  My friend's father has two trees.  The healthy one is the big green fig with the purple center that Lampo in his post above on 06/08 identifies as Lampa Parda or Blanca or Burra.  The pictures of the big purple figs are Lamp's pictures of what he thought the purple fig of my friend might be.  But so far I do not think so.  So to be clear the cuttings I have are of the green exterior purple interior fig in the pictures I posted above.  Thank you for your interest.  PM me if you are interested.  Till fig time again, Jodi

PS If you are interested I am asking $7 for 3 pieces of LP, postage $7 about 30 pieces left out of 72. See my post "A few cuttings from a lover of figs..." for other varieties.  I'd sure rather have these guys on their way to being trees than kindling for my pizza oven. Please PM me if these are of interest or if you have questions. Happy figging, Jodi

Hello Jodi Pm sent. Thanks

Hey everyone I have been so honored by your interest in this elder's fig tree, Lampa Parda.  He is smiling at the thought of his fig tree going out all over the country.  Thank you for bringing a smile to a longtime gardeners face.  Thank you they are all spoken for.  Happy Holy Days everyone.

Hi Jodi, Perhaps I missed it, but did your tree produce and ripen any fruit in AZ? If yes which one?

Hello SAS. I started several airlayers of the green fig Lampa Parda in August.  Bringing them back to AZ in September.  Right now they are happily growing, including some brebas, in a south window inside.  I will be trying one in ground this next year here at my house and at Daisy's house in the Verde Valley.  It is scary and interesting how different all the varieties are.  Hoping this one does well here also.  Warmly, Jodi

Cuttings of the Unk Point Loma/Lampa Parda came today. Can't wait for these babies to grow and give me and my family some of that beautiful fruit!! Thanks, Wendy

Cool Wendy I am glad that they safely arrived.  They really are an amazing color of purple (my favorite color, especially with green as they are on these figs).   I am excited that so many people have been interested in this old gardener's tree.  It is making a lot of people happy to think of this fig tree winging it's way around the world.  Please keep me posted on how it does for you.  The airlayers I did for the family are going gang busters and I have even had to pull some brebas off already.  Happy figging, Jodi