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SuperMario1

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I am pretty new to fig collecting, and I only have a couple little Pretos to compare it to (no UCD BM or KK BM), so it is too early to tell.  However, this little plant looks promising.  I'll keep y'all posted as things develop but hopefully she it what I think she is.  If not, hey I got another unknown, which I'm always good with.  The guy is from Portugal and said this was his favorite variety so if anything it should be a tasty fig.  Thought I'd share. New BM fig.jpg 

Some of the leaves are goofy because it got really hot and bright all the sudden when the leaves were starting to come out.  It is already pumping out a lot of little figlets. So far no indication of FMV, but I've got a lot of it in my yard so....

figpig_66

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Was it expensive with shipping?

SuperMario1

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Not really. I'll keep an eye on this one and see how she does, but so far it is looking a lot like my Pretos.

Rewton

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Mario, it looks promising.  What is this fig variety called in Portugal?

SuperMario1

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Thanks Rewton.  The guy had no name for it so that doesn't help much. Time will tell. Maybe its a just a BT lol... which I wouldn't mind so much.

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[QUOTE=SuperMario1]I am pretty new to fig collecting, and I only have a couple little Pretos to compare it to (no UCD BM or KK BM), so it is too early to tell.  However, this little plant looks promising.  I'll keep y'all posted as things develop but hopefully she it what I think she is.  If not, hey I got another unknown, which I'm always good with.  The guy is from Portugal and said this was his favorite variety so if anything it should be a tasty fig.  Thought I'd share. New BM fig.jpg 

Some of the leaves are goofy because it got really hot and bright all the sudden when the leaves were starting to come out.  It is already pumping out a lot of little figlets. So far no indication of FMV, but I've got a lot of it in my yard so....[/QUOTE]


Congratulations for your new fig!
Need to be careful now not to contaminate it with that fmv

Francisco
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Smyfigs

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Yes, do kerp us posted, Mario. Exciting! How old is it?

SuperMario1

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Smyfigs,

I got it over the winter so it is still a baby.  It took a while to break dormancy, but when it did it put on some good growth.  Not the most vigorous plant in my yard, but not a dud either.

Fransisco,

Yea, I definately want to keep this one FMV free.  Everything with FMV is in a different location from my non-FMV plants.

Fig Hugs*

SuperMario1

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Whatever it is, it sure is productive.

Figinfever

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I hope it is true to variety and we have another FMV-free, more robust version. Good luck!

VeryNew2Figs

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Is it usual for such a young plant to have so many figs on it so early? The plant is, what?
6 months old or 8 months old?

drew51

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I have a variety from Portugal that also is small and put out a lot of figs. Craven's Craving, which was offered here. This one is not Black Madeira. Although it looks like it.
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figgary

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Looks very similar to my Violeta. IMG_4302.JPG 

VeryNew2Figs

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drew51:  Nice plant...and I see your garlic in the background ;-)

joann1536

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Leaves look like my young Black Madeira plants.  A little off the topic, but those leaves look very similar to the UNK Calderwoods that I have, but they've not yet had figs, so no idea what they'd be like.  If anyone has both, are they similar?

Figinfever

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It would be interesting to see if they all are related/the same once the fruit ripens on all of them. If it is Violeta, like Gary's, then it isn't bad either. I saw on another thread where Lampo said Violeta is the ancestor to Figo Preto and Black Madeira, correct me if I remember wrong.

Joann, please post pics of your unknown Calderwood if you can. If it turns out that all these figs are Violeta, then we will have multiple sources of a fig in the class of BM and FP.

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Unk Calderwood does have some spade like leaves, most feel it is LSU Tiger, was found as an unknown in Houston area.  My Tiger and Calderwood look identical, should both have figs first time this year.

SuperMario1

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Thanks for the feedback.  I'll definitely post more once I have some ripe fruit.  I think that the leaves do look like Violetta and Cravens Craving too.  However, so far, the fruit is more rounded like BM or Unk Calderwood, but we will know more when it ripens.  If I had to guess right now, I'd say it is not BM but a close relative.  The main reason why I think it may not be is because of the early fruit production, which may also be partially explained by preventing dormancy over winter. While the leave shapes, shape and number of fruit, and growth habit look like a BM I have noticed one thing different about the leaves.  I know it is a young plant, but the very tips of the leaves are generally pointed, while Bm and Preto have more rounded tips on the leaves.  It is an enigma at this point but I am excited to know more.

Drew, do you have any ripe fruit pictures of Craven's Craving?

drew51

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[QUOTE=SuperMario1]
Drew, do you have any ripe fruit pictures of Craven's Craving?[/QUOTE]

No, I will post when I do. I'm looking for an early Portuguese fig that will produce in short season areas. Hoping Craven's Craving will ripen in time, and produce early every year.  Preto and BM are not great here without a greenhouse, or under lights. That photo is about a month old, the plant is progressing nicely. Craven's Craving is reported to have good tasting figs even when ripened in the cold. We will see, or maybe not? If a late ripener I will probably still keep it under lights, maybe? No point in making a decision till I know.
Please keep us posted on this one too, as it might solve my problem also!
Oh also no signs of FMV so far. And where I live the mite doesn't exist to spread the disease, although one never knows if local aphids or whatever will make a good vector or not?

tsparozi

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Bump.... Mario, how is the new baby progressing in the last month?

Tony

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Here is it

 

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tsparozi

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Lol.... did I loose the thread somewhere? I knew this was going to happen one day and I'd never be able to find my way home again....  @Figgyme could you please elaborate on your 'here it is'... not sure as to the context...

Tony

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[QUOTE=tsparozi]

Lol.... did I loose the thread somewhere? I knew this was going to happen one day and I'd never be able to find my way home again....  @Figgyme could you please elaborate on your 'here it is'... not sure as to the context...

Tony

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I have heard from a fig grower, this tree is on Australia.

There was 1 family move from Portugal many years ago

and that family take their precious fig cuttings from Portugal

and grown in the new land. 

Since that tree grow fast due to hot climate but still dominant.

 

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SuperMario1

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[QUOTE=tsparozi]Bump.... Mario, how is the new baby progressing in the last month?

Tony[/QUOTE]

Doing well! It gave me one fruit so far, which I promptly gobbled up without photographing.  When it gives another I will post some pics.  

Hint: I think y'all are in for a surprise with this one! haha

 Figgyme: Is your name Mario too?  

tsparozi

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@SuperMario1 - Mario, if you have opportunity, please also post pictures of tree... would love to see how it grew....

Thanks,
Tony

SuperMario1

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[QUOTE=tsparozi]@SuperMario1 - Mario, if you have opportunity, please also post pictures of tree... would love to see how it grew....

Thanks,
Tony[/QUOTE]
Will do. The tree is tiny, but it has like 15 figs on it. 

SuperMario1

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Sorry for the spelling error in the pic.  Francisco, feel free to help identify this one. UNKmaderia.JPG 

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Smyfigs

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Gorgeous black outside! And really pretty inside too!

tsparozi

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Mario! Wow... Beautiful black outside and light / amber inside.... Looks like it was worth the wait.... Congratulations and enjoy!

T

SuperMario1

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Thanks guys. Until its properly I.D. I'm calling it "Portuguese Black and Tan".  Its a large semi-sweet fig with a light nutty note.  It is a unique tasting fig with leaves and fruit production amounts very similar to Black Madeira. I think originally it may have been a seedling from a BM due to the similarities, but that is just a guess. I was hoping Francisco could offer some help with I.D since he knows a lot about the Portuguese varieties.  

I'll get some more pics of fruit later.