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ercan_bilgi
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This fig was named after the city of Urfa which was not occupied by enemies during the Independence War. Urfa is remembered as a city of heroes. We are so proud of this city which has got a great significance in our history . I'm so proud and happy to Introduce this fig, :) |
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Enigma
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Just curious, who were the oppressors that you gained independence from? |
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ercan_bilgi
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[QUOTE=Enigma]Just curious, who were the oppressors that you gained independence from? [/QUOTE] |
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Enigma
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[QUOTE=ercan_bilgi] Dear Enigma, I don't want to start history discussion here with another figger friend from other countries,so it is better relpy this question privately. Thanks [/QUOTE] Very wise but maybe discussions about 'enemies' and 'independence' should not be raised at all, particularly in today's climate given the recent statements from the Turkish president. No need to send me a PM. Thanks. Let's stick to figs. |
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ercan_bilgi
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[QUOTE=Enigma] |
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Robert_K
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Hi Ercan |
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sobelri
Registered: Posts: 89 |
Nice looking fig. Do you have any experience growing the Urfa biber (pepper)? I recently received a few seeds and it's on my grow list for next year. |
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ercan_bilgi
Registered: Posts: 174 |
Hi Robert yes it is cold hardy variety and it can resist low degrees in winter that was -18C last year in my region . |
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sobelri
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[QUOTE=ercan_bilgi]Sobelri, Yes we call urfa pepper as " isot " and it is hot chilly pepper and don't have any experience growing it because I really hate eating hot chillies.[/QUOTE] |
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DevIsgro
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Very cool. There aren't very many black figs with honey interiors! |
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TorontoJoe
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[QUOTE=ercan_bilgi]Hi Robert yes it is cold hardy variety and it can resist low degrees in winter that was -18C last year in my region . |
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xenil
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Dear Ercan, |
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LaFigue
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Hello all, |
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Robert_K
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[QUOTE=ercan_bilgi]Hi Robert yes it is cold hardy variety and it can resist low degrees in winter that was -18C last year in my region . Sobelri, Yes we call urfa pepper as " isot " and it is hot chilly pepper and don't have any experience growing it because I really hate eating hot chillies.[/QUOTE] |
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ercan_bilgi
Registered: Posts: 174 |
sure I noted.Thanks |
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SimonS
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Ercan...... A City of Heros ??? Age of Islam[edit]Islam had first arrived in Urfa around 638 AD, when the region surrendered to the Rashidun army without resisting, and had become a significant presence under the Ayyubids (see: Saladin Ayubbi), Seljuks. In 1144, the Crusader state fell to the TurkishAbassid general Zengui, who had most of the Christian inhabitants slaughtered together with the Latin archbishop (see Siege of Edessa) and the subsequent Second Crusade failed to recapture the city.[7] Subsequently, Urfa was ruled by Zengids, Ayyubids, Sultanate of Rum, Ilkhanids, Memluks, Akkoyunlu and Safavids before Ottoman conquest in 1516. Under the Ottomans Urfa was part (Sanjak) of the Aleppo Vilayet. The area became a centre of trade in cotton, leather, and jewellery. There was a small but ancient Jewish community in Urfa,[8] with a population of about 1,000 by the 19th century.[9]Most of the Jews emigrated in 1896, fleeing the Hamidian massacres, and settling mainly in Aleppo, Tiberias and Jerusalem. There were three Christian communities: Syriac, Armenian, and Latin. According to Lord Kinross,[10] 8,000 Armenians were massacred in Urfa in 1895. The last Neo-Aramaic Christians left in 1924 and went to Aleppo (where they settled in a place that was later called Hay al-Suryan "The Syriac Quarter").[11] First World War and after[edit]In 1914 Urfa was estimated to have 75,000 inhabitants: 45,000 Muslims, 25,000 Armenians and 5,000 Syriac/Assyrian Christians. There was also a Jewish presence in the town.[citation needed] During the First World War, Urfa was a site of the Armenian and Assyrian Genocides, beginning in August 1915.[12] By the end of the war, the entire Christian population had been killed, had fled, or was in hiding. The British occupation of the city of Urfa started de facto on 7 March 1919 and officially de jure as of 24 March 1919, and lasted until 30 October 1919. French forces took over the next day and lasted until 11 April 1920, when they were defeated by local resistance forces before the formal declaration of the Republic of Turkey on 23 April 1920). The French retreat from the city of Urfa was conducted under an agreement reached between the occupying forces and the representatives of the local forces, commanded by Captain Ali Saip Bey assigned from Ankara. The withdrawal was meant to take place peacefully, but was disrupted by an ambush on the French units by irregular Turkish and Kurdish Muslim forces at the Şebeke Pass on the way to Syria, leading to 296 casualties among the French, and even more among the ambushers. Maybe the figs from Urfa are growing well on the blood remnants of all the Christians' blood that your "heroes" massacred over the centuries.The entirety of Turkey is built over the ashes of the longest lasting Christian Empire, Byzantium, which was taken over by outsiders from Turkic origins (as in Turkmenistan in central Asia). So next time you discuss "occupiers" "oppressors" and "enemies" , you need to be aware that those are the actual natives to that land. And while you are at it, stop supporting ISIS, Get the hell out of Syria, get the hell out of Kurdistan, leave the Armenians alone and admit and apologize for the genocides your "heroes" perpetrated I am disgusted that you have the audacity to call evil murderers "heroes" and somehow you think you can consider yourself a civilized nation worth of European Union membership. Huh! Distorted reality in desperate need of a reality check!!! Are ISIS fanatics also your heroes? |
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ercan_bilgi
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SimonS, As I mentioned above I don't want to discuss the history or political issues we are here for figs ,please DON'T forget this. If the problem is the name of the fig "Urfa" then I advice you to look at this history background of "Caliymra" fig origin and where it is come from California! (California -Symnra). Alhamdulillah we are living a fig heaven country and eat our Own figs here and , Thanks to Allah, our fig trees are growing well on the remnants of all the Martyrs' blood that gave their soul for this land . Our ancestors Ottomans behaved equally all the nations in their lands thats why they are Great Emperor. We are in Turkey DON'T support ISIS or DAESH,they are not related with Islam. I like all my American friend here including you because you are caring plants so you must have sensitive soul ,won't you ? and they are all really polite and respectful towards me . Lastly,in our culture there is a motto that I want to share with you "if someone throw a mud,you give him a bread" (It is not an info from Wikipedia) :) |
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SimonS
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Arcan |
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ercan_bilgi
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Simons, Here is not the right platform to discuss such things. I know my ancient history very well and I again and repeatedly say "I am proud of my hero ancestors,Ottomans." I have good reply for your all questions but first, questions should be quality enough that worth to reply.If anything related with figs it is ok.If not I don't reply . |
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haslamhulme
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I was worried this morning when I saw the first political post,please keep it to the figs guys.I studied politics and have read history and from what I can tell we(humanity collectively)are all a pretty despicable bunch,I come from "Great" Britain and know my history and it isn't all 'cultural exchange' and 'progress'. Dispite what myths governments want to promote historical records speak for the truth,or versions of the truth from many different perspectives,all of them correct "in the eyes of the beholder",that's the thing about myths.All countries and nations and build on myths,in the face of the usually pretty horrific truth about how nations are born it's the myths that help keep it all together,if we weren't brought up believing something other than that the world is a pretty brutal,bloody,mess of competing interests and narratives we might just all give up. I do not speak of Civilised worlds and otherwise,I think Ghandi said it best when he was asked what he thought of Western Civilisation, he simply replied "I think it would be a good idea",the same applies to the rest of the world as well.None of the world nations are blameless. We all come from the 4 corners of this bloody mess of a planet but the one thing we have in common here is that we marvel at this small piece of our shared reality,a tree,and trees don't care what politicians want to call the ground they stand on or who's blood waters the soil,they will grow as they wish,just as God/ nature intended them to,they are witness to the horrors we inflict on one another but couldn't care less. Keep it to the figs,they are better than us |
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RobSter010
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As long as Americans celebrate the genocide of the native population with thanksgiving i don't think you're entitled to call anyone's history murderous @Simon S. |
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kkk2210
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[QUOTE=SimonS]Arcan |
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DevIsgro
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History is interesting, humans are bloody. I'm not religious, but I do love a good fig. Which is why we are here. Thanks for sharing that Urfa fig with us Ercan, it sounds like it had been enjoyed by many cultures! I hope to grow it someday. |
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AltadenaMara
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Ercan, thanks for sharing your beautiful fig pictures. I’ve learned so much from your posts. Turkey has contributed many great figs to fig growers everywhere. If people want to discuss history and politics, they should google around and find a different board.If they want to vent their anger and frustration by projecting it onto others, they should find a good therapist. This is not the place. |
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cmichael258
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[QUOTE=AltadenaMara] Ercan, thanks for sharing your beautiful fig pictures. I’ve learned so much from your posts. Turkey has contributed many great figs to fig growers everywhere. If people want to discuss history and politics, they should google around and find a different board.If they want to vent their anger and frustration by projecting it onto others, they should find a good therapist. This is not the place. [/QUOTE] Well said. |
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